POTUS - Ho Chi Minh Inspired by Founders

[G26ster]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07 ... g-fathers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Keith B]

I think Obama is a Ho wanna be.

(and as a Mod, no jokes on this please.)

[Redneck_Buddha]

Just confirms what I've known for years. We have a CIC who is an absolute, naked communist.

[MoJo]

Contrary to most current and contemporary thinking, Ho Chi Minh wanted a democracy for Vietnam. If the US and other western powers would have backed Ho instead of the French at the end of WWII things could have been different. Unfortunately, the USSR and Red China moved in, and Ho adopted Communism.

[G26ster]

Contrary to most current and contemporary thinking, Ho Chi Minh wanted a democracy for Vietnam. If the US and other western powers would have backed Ho instead of the French at the end of WWII things could have been different. Unfortunately, the USSR and Red China moved in, and Ho adopted Communism.

Have to disagree Mojo.

Ho adopted Communism in 1920, long before WWII, when he was a founding member of the French Communist Party. In 1924, in Moscow, he studied at the Communist University of the Toilers of the East. He then went to China but left after the anti-communist gov't of Chiang Kai-shek came to power. He remained in Thailand, staying in the Thai village of Nachok, until late 1929 when he moved on to India, then Shanghai. In early 1930, in Hong Kong, Nguyễn Ái Quốc (Ho Chi Minh) chaired a meeting with representatives from two Vietnamese communist parties in order to merge them into a unified organization, Communist Party of Vietnam.

While he did have some communication with the U.S., he was a Communist through and through, long before WWII and the Russians and Chinese moving in to fill any vacuum created by lack of U.S. support.

[Abraham]

Valerie Jarrett (Potus's most valued advisor) stated they'd had their eye on Van Jones for a long time and were ecstatic when he was recruited.

Remember Van Jones?

A self declared Marxist.

Van Jones was also a member of Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), which sympathized with Maoist-inspired peasant movements throughout the world.

No one should be surprised for the Potus's reverence for communists, but then I would guess most "community organizers" are some form of leftist be it communist or socialist (communist light).

Having this guy as President is like living in a monster filled science fiction movie...

[baldeagle]

G26ster is correct. Ho was a dedicated Communist decades before he cynically displayed the symbols of American freedom and claimed he wanted that for Vietnam. In reality he ruthlessly murdered anyone who was dedicated to freedom and liberty in Vietnam (and many more who were not but got in his way) and implemented communism as soon as he took power. The South Vietnamese fought valiantly against him until they were stabbed in the back by America. Ho's communist past and his perfidy are well documented facts that are still denied by the star gazers on the left.

[JALLEN]

Contrary to most current and contemporary thinking, Ho Chi Minh wanted a democracy for Vietnam. If the US and other western powers would have backed Ho instead of the French at the end of WWII things could have been different. Unfortunately, the USSR and Red China moved in, and Ho adopted Communism.

He was a Commie long before that:

From 1919–23, while living in France, Nguyễn began to approach the political path, through his friend and Socialist Party of France comrade Marcel Cachin. Nguyễn claimed to have arrived in Paris from London in 1917, but the French police only had documents of his arrival in June 1919.[7] He joined in a group of Vietnamese nationalists in Paris whose leaders were Phan Chu Trinh and Phan Văn Trường, bearing a new name Nguyễn Ái Quốc (“Nguyễn the Patriot”). Following World War I, the group petitioned for recognition of the civil rights of the Vietnamese people in French Indochina to the Western powers at the Versailles peace talks, but was ignored.[11] Citing the language and the spirit of the U.S. Declaration of Independence, they expected U.S. President Woodrow Wilson to help remove the French colonial rule from Vietnam and ensure the formation of a new, nationalist government. Although they were unable to obtain consideration at Versailles, the failure further radicalized Nguyễn, while also making him a symbol of the anti-colonial movement at home in Vietnam.[12]

In 1920, as a representative in the Congress of Tours of Socialist Party of France, Quốc voted for the Third International and became a founding member of the Parti Communiste Français (FCP). Taking a position in the Colonial Committee of PCF, he tried to attract his comrades' attention towards people in French colonies including Indochina, but his efforts were often unsuccessful. In this period he learned to write journal articles and short stories as well as running his Vietnamese nationalist group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh

[JP171]

Contrary to most current and contemporary thinking, Ho Chi Minh wanted a democracy for Vietnam. If the US and other western powers would have backed Ho instead of the French at the end of WWII things could have been different. Unfortunately, the USSR and Red China moved in, and Ho adopted Communism.

too much Chairman Maobama Empress Chelle TV here. Just curious though where did you hear this? what source, I should hope not the libtards at your college because as you know they are in fact libtards and have one agenda to pacify America thru misdirection and obfuscation of the truth and bring us to the enlightened peoples republic of Maobama land

[MoJo]

Contrary to most current and contemporary thinking, Ho Chi Minh wanted a democracy for Vietnam. If the US and other western powers would have backed Ho instead of the French at the end of WWII things could have been different. Unfortunately, the USSR and Red China moved in, and Ho adopted Communism.

too much Chairman Maobama Empress Chelle TV here. Just curious though where did you hear this? what source, I should hope not the libtards at your college because as you know they are in fact libtards and have one agenda to pacify America thru misdirection and obfuscation of the truth and bring us to the enlightened peoples republic of Maobama land

Yes, college, that's where I learned it. Vietnam University class of 1968.

[K.Mooneyham]

Contrary to most current and contemporary thinking, Ho Chi Minh wanted a democracy for Vietnam. If the US and other western powers would have backed Ho instead of the French at the end of WWII things could have been different. Unfortunately, the USSR and Red China moved in, and Ho adopted Communism.

too much Chairman Maobama Empress Chelle TV here. Just curious though where did you hear this? what source, I should hope not the libtards at your college because as you know they are in fact libtards and have one agenda to pacify America thru misdirection and obfuscation of the truth and bring us to the enlightened peoples republic of Maobama land

Yes, college, that's where I learned it. Vietnam University class of 1968.

MoJo, I have nothing but respect for Vietnam-era veterans, so I hope you do not take this as any disrespect. Have you considered that there might have been a significant disinformation campaign running a particular narrative being circulated at that time? Sometimes the smallest things can have an effect on morale. Service members serving a dangerous tour (and once again, I wish to take nothing away from the sacrifices made by those who served there, yourself included) might be made just that tiny bit less effective if they were led to believe they were fighting a war against a "nationalist" who just wanted "democracy for his country" and only went with the Communists because they said they would help him get that. The Soviets and the Chinese, as I gather, were both noted for their excellent propaganda efforts in that regard. The same disinformation campaign would perhaps been even more effective against the ARVN troops. Obviously, I was not there and could be totally wrong, it is just a thought.

[baldeagle]

Have you considered that there might have been a significant disinformation campaign running a particular narrative being circulated at that time? Sometimes the smallest things can have an effect on morale. Service members serving a dangerous tour (and once again, I wish to take nothing away from the sacrifices made by those who served there, yourself included) might be made just that tiny bit less effective if they were led to believe they were fighting a war against a "nationalist" who just wanted "democracy for his country" and only went with the Communists because they said they would help him get that. The Soviets and the Chinese, as I gather, were both noted for their excellent propaganda efforts in that regard. The same disinformation campaign would perhaps been even more effective against the ARVN troops. Obviously, I was not there and could be totally wrong, it is just a thought.

You are not wrong. The communists' disinformation campaign is now well documented as well as its effect on Americans. For example, it has been believed, by some, for years, that North Vietnam had nothing to do with the rise of the Viet Cong "revolutionaries" in South Vietnam and only got involved years later. It is now known, through documents found in North Vietnam in recent years (after they've opened up their archives to selected researchers) that the North Vietnamese communists were behind the Viet Cong from the beginning and sent agents to the south specifically to create, build and sustain the organization.

One thing I've learned in life is that some people will deny the truth even when you slap the proof in their faces. It's no surprise that people believed Ho's lies until they could be proven. There's no excuse at all for believing them now except ideology, but that doesn't stop certain academics from arguing for it despite the evidence. For some, beliefs are much more important than truth.

[bagman45]

Much like the blind following of the media and sheeple that OUR current POTUS enjoys......

[JP171]

Contrary to most current and contemporary thinking, Ho Chi Minh wanted a democracy for Vietnam. If the US and other western powers would have backed Ho instead of the French at the end of WWII things could have been different. Unfortunately, the USSR and Red China moved in, and Ho adopted Communism.

too much Chairman Maobama Empress Chelle TV here. Just curious though where did you hear this? what source, I should hope not the libtards at your college because as you know they are in fact libtards and have one agenda to pacify America thru misdirection and obfuscation of the truth and bring us to the enlightened peoples republic of Maobama land

Yes, college, that's where I learned it. Vietnam University class of 1968.

well as we see the litards won you over, its not your fault really. VU? geez can we say commie central of SE Asia. I have a friend that went there for half a semester he quit and emigrated to the US where he believes he did get a real education, when he joined the US ARMY.

and MoJo I am not attacking you but rather the school that I have heard about from many people if its the same school I have been told about, they are just as liberal communists now as they were then and many of them came here and still preach communism is good and benevolent. They subvert the reality of things until they are barely able to resemble reality. I don't say truth because of 2 things, truth implies that one is telling lies and truth is subjective, facts are not but can be twisted by liars

[tbrown]

I think Obama is a Ho wanna be.

I disagree. I think that's too small a goal for MaObama's ego.