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Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:39 pm
by AEA
Yup....9.32 (2)
unable to safely retreat.....and
The Dems are really sticking it to us this year!
Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:26 pm
by gthaustex
Wow...I simply have no words. Idiots.
Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:30 pm
by jmra
I'm assuming we have the votes to derail this thing easily.
Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:37 pm
by Paragrouper
jmra wrote:I'm assuming we have the votes to derail this thing easily.
It's scheduled for a hearing on the 29th
Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:38 pm
by AEA
Just watch this hidden gem breeze thru the system!
Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:10 pm
by howdy
So with this bill we are not allowed to use deadly force if someone is robbing us with a gun? This must be the Travon Martin bill.
Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:15 pm
by Paragrouper
It is similar, in what it is trying to accomplish (gut the Castle Act) as SB 1349
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 01349I.htm
Both are very bad bills. Why is no one paying attention?
Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:20 pm
by JP171
it appears that someone is trying to put back what was removed, in the past you had a duty to retreat before using any deadly force no matter where you were. now it looks like that if you are trying to defend a 3rd party you have to run away before using deadly force, hmmmmm maybe that OSHA complaint by the robbers, muggers and burglars union has actually been received and acted upon by the Emperors OSHA cronies
Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:39 pm
by The Annoyed Man
I actually hope for something bad to happen to people that write these kinds of laws. It's the only way to make them change their minds....unless they are completely beyond all darwinian recall.
Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:50 pm
by Texasrpbrock
I'm asking this as a question so please bare with me if my terminology is incorrect.
Would this open the legal system up for injured criminals or family members of injured/deceased criminals to take civil action against a homeowner that protected themselves inside of their dwelling? Are you expected to say hello to the bad guy, offer him a cup of coffee while he beats you, robs you, molests your dog and then steals your motorized Rascal? This sounds a new opportunity for lawyers to put up new billboards and air new commercials. Now you can get paid for getting shot during a home invasion if the jury see's it in your favor.....
Maybe I'm misinterpreting it? Seems like it's plausible.
Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:57 pm
by JP171
it very may well give an opening to those who get lead injection due to attempting to seriously injure or kill a person by a third party to sue for damages, I hope it doesn't go through the house and senate and gets laughed off the floor, but I fear that it may not as we have wimps in the Texas house and senate. I never liked or agreed with the requirement to retreat from a hostile force and still don't, it always made the responsible actor the criminal as opposed to the actual criminal aggressor responsible to run away, or an abrogation of the right to life of the victim
Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:01 am
by DLBConductor
I wrote a letter to everyone on the judicial committee as well as my senator and representative asking that this bill be defeated. It does not hurt to keep the fire under their feet. This is a bad bill.
http://www.house.state.tx.us/committees ... session=83" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:13 am
by tommyg
I think Gov Perry will veto it if this horrible bill gets to his desk. But we have to try to nip it in the bud
Re: TX - duty to retreat?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:44 am
by jmra
The Annoyed Man wrote:I actually hope for something bad to happen to people that write these kinds of laws. It's the only way to make them change their minds....unless they are completely beyond all darwinian recall.