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Sorry I couldn't get the "from" in the title - It begins. NY confiscates guns from man who used antianxiety meds

Here we go folks. I hope people start taking a stand. This is unacceptable


It’s official: New York gun confiscation is on!

And so this is how it begins: a man with no criminal record and no mental health issues is told by the state that he must turn in his legally-purchased arms to the state because they somehow accessed his medical records.

http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/04/its-of ... ion-is-on/

http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/erie/gun-p ... medication

One day they will come for someone's guns who will not turn them over. When that day comes, the revolution will have begun.

Just think about the number of Americans who are currently on anti anxiety and anti depression meds
It is a HUGE number since more and more people are being medicated by doctors for non psychotic reasons .

If I had the means, I would immediately move out of state if I were in his shoes.

rentz wrote:Just think about the number of Americans who are currently on anti anxiety and anti depression meds
It is a HUGE number since more and more people are being medicated by doctors for non psychotic reasons .

It's worse than that. A physician called Glenn Beck this morning and said that Ambien is classified as a psychotropic drug and that even Benadryl, if prescribed for certain things, could also be classified as a psychotropic drug.
So if they can't outright take the Second Amendment out of the Bill of RIGHTS, they will make ammunition impossible to find, and if you can get ammunition, then they will label you as on medication for a mental disorder and grab your guns that way.

So very glad I left New Yorkghanistan years ago!

Grillmark55 wrote:

rentz wrote:Just think about the number of Americans who are currently on anti anxiety and anti depression meds
It is a HUGE number since more and more people are being medicated by doctors for non psychotic reasons .

It's worse than that. A physician called Glenn Beck this morning and said that Ambien is classified as a psychotropic drug and that even Benadryl, if prescribed for certain things, could also be classified as a psychotropic drug.
So if they can't outright take the Second Amendment out of the Bill of RIGHTS, they will make ammunition impossible to find, and if you can get ammunition, then they will label you as on medication for a mental disorder and grab your guns that way.

I'd like to know how they find out the medication anyway, hippa prevents that.
The doctor can't even leave a message with your spouse if you didn't note them on your hippa form

rentz wrote:

Grillmark55 wrote:

rentz wrote:Just think about the number of Americans who are currently on anti anxiety and anti depression meds
It is a HUGE number since more and more people are being medicated by doctors for non psychotic reasons .

It's worse than that. A physician called Glenn Beck this morning and said that Ambien is classified as a psychotropic drug and that even Benadryl, if prescribed for certain things, could also be classified as a psychotropic drug.
So if they can't outright take the Second Amendment out of the Bill of RIGHTS, they will make ammunition impossible to find, and if you can get ammunition, then they will label you as on medication for a mental disorder and grab your guns that way.

I'd like to know how they find out the medication anyway, hippa prevents that.
The doctor can't even leave a message with your spouse if you didn't note them on your hippa form

It's HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) but I understood what you were saying. The new NY SAFE Act apparently allows this information to be shared when certain circumstances are met HOWEVER I believe this was grossly misinterpreted to justify the confiscation. I am glad he is suing and hope it works out in his favor.

rentz wrote:

Grillmark55 wrote:

rentz wrote:Just think about the number of Americans who are currently on anti anxiety and anti depression meds
It is a HUGE number since more and more people are being medicated by doctors for non psychotic reasons .

It's worse than that. A physician called Glenn Beck this morning and said that Ambien is classified as a psychotropic drug and that even Benadryl, if prescribed for certain things, could also be classified as a psychotropic drug.
So if they can't outright take the Second Amendment out of the Bill of RIGHTS, they will make ammunition impossible to find, and if you can get ammunition, then they will label you as on medication for a mental disorder and grab your guns that way.

I'd like to know how they find out the medication anyway, hippa prevents that.
The doctor can't even leave a message with your spouse if you didn't note them on your hippa form

As I have said before, if you think that the antis will obey the rule of law you are delusional to the extreme.

They will break every law, every rule, every limitation they can to further their agenda of eventual registration and confiscation.

In fact, these types of situations will become commonplace.

You need to face the facts and be ready. We will all be labeled as terrorists, criminals, and/or crazies.

Anygunanywhere

Yes. Now begins the paranoia. You are no longer guilty of an unlawful act after you have committed it, you are guilty - without trial - of a crime before you commit it. I have tried to explain to my friends how this is a slap to freedom loving people. Your rights are eroding day by day.

Dreamer42
Dallas, TX
"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
--Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824.

rentz wrote:Just think about the number of Americans who are currently on anti anxiety and anti depression meds
It is a HUGE number since more and more people are being medicated by doctors for non psychotic reasons .

that is simply scary
wait till big brother starts pulling all the NY area veterans med records....it wont be long I am sure

baldeagle wrote:One day they will come for someone's guns who will not turn them over. When that day comes, the revolution will have begun.

I'm guessing the guy in this story won't be helping with the revolution, just "gather em up" and turn em in just like a good democrat should

The reaction to Sandy Hook has gone beyond my wildest imagination.

Its like its some kind of infection. I can't put my finger on why.

To access someones private medical records with out a warrant and for no probable cause and then come and take his gun. Its like all of a sudden the constitution and the bill of rights in New York don't exist.

And no one cares.(at least in New York)

Some of my anti gun friends have no idea how far this sort of thing can go. A free democratic society is very rare in the world, it can end so quickly.

Does the constitution and the bill of rights have no value to most of America now?

And if he resisted he would only justify the need to have his guns taken away, now what can he do, spend lots of money to fight for what should be his right. Does he have a defense fund set up yet and are the NRA or GOA etc... helping him?

Ladies and Gentlemen, Please before you cite the HIPAA read it, study what it actually covers, who it covers and what it covers. none of the things that anyone here has talked about is covered under the act. back on topic now, its bull that the NY gubbermint took this type of action that appears to be an unlawful violation, however if the person was prescribed the meds I can understand why caution would be warranted. I do think that there are better ways of going about it and do not agree with it.