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Hitler joins gun debate, but history is in dispute...
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:26 pm
by stevie_d_64
Who's version of history???
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I'm really sorry folks...But these poor excuses for journalistic integrity come in groups...
Re: Hitler joins gun debate, but history is in dispute...
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:00 pm
by gthaustex
They are also missing the fact that Hitler was not the only one to push gun control and then turn on his own people. Russia, China, Turkey, etc. The list goes on and on of countries that removed the means to fight from a group of people, often an ethnic or religious minority and then proceeded to slaughter them.
Re: Hitler joins gun debate, but history is in dispute...
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:29 pm
by TexasCajun
"Objectively, it might have made things worse" if the Jews who fought the Nazis in the 1943 Warsaw ghetto uprising in Poland had more and better guns...
This tells you all you need to know about where this article is coming from.
Re: Hitler joins gun debate, but history is in dispute...
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:37 pm
by K.Mooneyham
TexasCajun wrote:"Objectively, it might have made things worse" if the Jews who fought the Nazis in the 1943 Warsaw ghetto uprising in Poland had more and better guns...
This tells you all you need to know about where this article is coming from.
And that is the same attitude that enabled the terrorists to destroy the Twin Towers on 9/11. The "don't resist and they won't hurt you" mentality. The reality is that it often doesn't work and that you can never know if it will or not.
Re: Hitler joins gun debate, but history is in dispute...
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:42 pm
by baldeagle
The writer and the professors he quotes completely ignore the fact that while the Nazis did loosen the gun laws before the war, they did so for the groups they favored. For those they didn't favor, they registered and confiscated. Which is EXACTLY the point that needs to be made. When the government gets to decide who can be armed and who cannot you have tyranny. Being a member of the favored group doesn't exactly earn you a badge of courage for pointing out that the laws aren't affecting you. The entire point of America is that the majority cannot tyrannize the minority because the minority retains real power, not least the power of the gun.
Look at Britain. They've essentially registered and confiscated yet they don't have a tyranny (the liberals would argue). Or do they? You can go to jail for the crime of defending your life. If that isn't tyranny, tyranny does not exist.
When Patrick Henry said, "Give me liberty or give me death" these fools thought he was just kidding.
Re: Hitler joins gun debate, but history is in dispute...
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:27 am
by TexasCajun
K.Mooneyham wrote:TexasCajun wrote:"Objectively, it might have made things worse" if the Jews who fought the Nazis in the 1943 Warsaw ghetto uprising in Poland had more and better guns...
This tells you all you need to know about where this article is coming from.
And that is the same attitude that enabled the terrorists to destroy the Twin Towers on 9/11. The "don't resist and they won't hurt you" mentality. The reality is that it often doesn't work and that you can never know if it will or not.
It's essentially the (failed) appeasement policy that allowed Hitler's Nazis to take over half of Europe without firing a shot. 9/11 was the fault of inattention & failing to recognize the actual threat capabilities of al Quaida