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Administration hack lets the cat out of the bag

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:24 pm
by baldeagle
John Pisole, Director of the TSA, testified before Congress today regarding the recent decision to allow some types of small knives on airplanes. He began with a prepared statement defending his decision and then took questions from the Committee. At one point in his testimony he said this, "We all know it isn't the object that causes the problem. It's the person carrying it."

Oh my! Someone needs to straighten him out. We all know guns are the problem. How could knives not be?

Can't wait for the video to be posted to Youtube.

Edit: Found it - http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/311521-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - at the 46.23 mark - "So it really gets, again, to what is the intent of the person on board as opposed to the object. So if we simply focus on the object, then we're always behind the eight ball."

Yet that logic doesn't apply to guns?

Re: Administration hack lets the cat out of the bag

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:06 pm
by RX8er
Those of us here know this and understand the hypocrisy. How do we show the other side though?

Re: Administration hack lets the cat out of the bag

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:23 pm
by Topbuilder
"How do we show the other side though?"

'You cannot wake somone who only pretends to sleep' :bigear:

(quote ripped off from someone?)

Re: Administration hack lets the cat out of the bag

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:24 am
by TexasGal
I have to laugh at the logic that says if you take a tiny little pocket knife away from a full grown man who was carrying it for the purpose of harming others that he now can not harm anyone. Given a bit of training, I am guessing he could do far more harm with his two hands and feet. And what about all those assault weapons in the overhead bins? Ever been smacked in the face by someone pulling down luggage? :evil2:

Re: Administration hack lets the cat out of the bag

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:06 am
by RPB
Wasn't it those small short-bladed boxcutters that were used to mass-murder that killed over 5,000 people in one day on 9/11? And they worry about a measly 30 rounds in a gun when obviously small knives caused more deaths in a single day.

Re: Administration hack lets the cat out of the bag

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:49 am
by Keith B
RPB wrote:Wasn't it those small short-bladed boxcutters that were used to mass-murder that killed over 5,000 people in one day on 9/11? And they worry about a measly 30 rounds in a gun when obviously small knives caused more deaths in a single day.
Yep, but I will tell you there is a different mentality today by all passengers and crew on airliners. Before 911 it was thought that hijackers would more than likely just force the pilot to land the plane, all passengers would be released and they hold the crew hostage. When 911 hit, once the word got to Flight 94, those people took action, albeit too late to stop the takeover of the cockpit and the killing of the flight crew that had already occurred. If anyone would try anything today, the person would not even make it into the cockpit before a crew person or passenger(s) would be on them. Not to mention the possibility of the Federal Flight Deck Officer being armed, a Air Marshal on the flight, or just the fire ax in the cockpit that the pilot can use to fight back.

Re: Administration hack lets the cat out of the bag

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:00 pm
by Dadtodabone
Gee, common sense from a DHS official, who'd a thunk it.

Re: Administration hack lets the cat out of the bag

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:20 am
by bagman45
Clearly an "off the cuff", defensive comment that he didn't think through. I'm sure this is the last you'll hear from him... "rlol"

Re: Administration hack lets the cat out of the bag

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:43 am
by RJGold
baldeagle wrote:John Pisole, Director of the TSA, testified before Congress today regarding the recent decision to allow some types of small knives on airplanes. He began with a prepared statement defending his decision and then took questions from the Committee. At one point in his testimony he said this, "We all know it isn't the object that causes the problem. It's the person carrying it."

Oh my! Someone needs to straighten him out. We all know guns are the problem. How could knives not be?

Can't wait for the video to be posted to Youtube.

Edit: Found it - http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/311521-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - at the 46.23 mark - "So it really gets, again, to what is the intent of the person on board as opposed to the object. So if we simply focus on the object, then we're always behind the eight ball."

Yet that logic doesn't apply to guns?
I know this is a CHL forum and I am really excited about how this statement could be used for our cause, but what I am most excited about in this case is that maybe, just maybe, I am one step closer to being able to carry more than 3 ounces of hair gel with me when I travel now!!! :woohoo