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State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:22 pm
by Reds45ACP
I recently wrote to Senator Watson regarding gun rights issues letting him know how one of his constituents felt. I received a letter back today explaining his general support of gun rights but then stating that he is against campus carry after speaking with university presidents, chancellors, and student government associations.

I must say I am disappointed to hear it. He may find it hard to garner my vote next election.

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:40 pm
by chuckybrown
"may"?

what then, perhaps, is your litmus test?

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:54 pm
by C-dub
So, he didn't speak to any students. What sort of answer did he think he was going to get?

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:39 pm
by baldeagle
I just sent the following to Senator Watson.
Senator Watson,

Recently it came to my attention that you are opposed to campus carry after having spoken with university presidents, chancellors and student government associations.

Perhaps my experience as a staff member at a state university might inform your view in a way that you haven't yet been exposed to. I am a 65 year old Navy veteran and a longtime University employee. I hold a CHL and carry a gun with me every day. I pray that I never have to use it to shoot another human being, but I do not wish to be helpless in the face of violence.

Unfortunately, although the state trusts me to carry a gun almost everywhere I go, one place I am not allowed to carry is in my workplace. For some reason the legislature saw fit to make a perfectly arbitrary decision to deny me the right of self defense while working.

Data collected since the adoption of the CHL laws show that CHL holders are 15 times less likely to commit a crime than the average Texas citizen. We are even less likely to commit a crime than members of law enforcement. Yet for some reason, when we cross the threshold of a building at a university, we are not to be trusted.

I know the fear mongers talk about immature students brandishing weapons at the first sign of conflict, but the fact is most undergraduates aren't even eligible to carry weapons at all, much less carry them to school. The ones who do anyway are lawbreakers and would be unaffected by any change to the law.

Since you've taken the time to poll the powers that be, I would respectfully request that you do the same with university employees who hold CHL licenses before you foreclose the possibility of voting for the right to carry on campus.

Thank you for your time,

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:12 pm
by Reds45ACP
chuckybrown wrote:"may"?

what then, perhaps, is your litmus test?
I was being facetious. Relax. He's lost my vote.

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:19 am
by chuckybrown
Reds45ACP wrote:
chuckybrown wrote:"may"?

what then, perhaps, is your litmus test?
I was being facetious. Relax. He's lost my vote.
.....breaths a sigh of relief.....

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:33 am
by Purplehood
I would really hope that your opposition wouldn't be based on a sole negative vote on a single issue. I agree with it being an indicator that he deserves more scrutiny, but it would not be an automatic disqualifier for me unless it was in concert with other action or inaction on his part.

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:57 am
by jmra
Given the lack of participation (apathy if you will) on a recent OC/Campus Carry poll on this forum, I don't think the Senator has much to worry about.

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:41 am
by Charles L. Cotton
baldeagle wrote:I just sent the following to Senator Watson.
Senator Watson,

Recently it came to my attention that you are opposed to campus carry after having spoken with university presidents, chancellors and student government associations.

Perhaps my experience as a staff member at a state university might inform your view in a way that you haven't yet been exposed to. I am a 65 year old Navy veteran and a longtime University employee. I hold a CHL and carry a gun with me every day. I pray that I never have to use it to shoot another human being, but I do not wish to be helpless in the face of violence.

Unfortunately, although the state trusts me to carry a gun almost everywhere I go, one place I am not allowed to carry is in my workplace. For some reason the legislature saw fit to make a perfectly arbitrary decision to deny me the right of self defense while working.

Data collected since the adoption of the CHL laws show that CHL holders are 15 times less likely to commit a crime than the average Texas citizen. We are even less likely to commit a crime than members of law enforcement. Yet for some reason, when we cross the threshold of a building at a university, we are not to be trusted.

I know the fear mongers talk about immature students brandishing weapons at the first sign of conflict, but the fact is most undergraduates aren't even eligible to carry weapons at all, much less carry them to school. The ones who do anyway are lawbreakers and would be unaffected by any change to the law.

Since you've taken the time to poll the powers that be, I would respectfully request that you do the same with university employees who hold CHL licenses before you foreclose the possibility of voting for the right to carry on campus.

Thank you for your time,
Very good!
Chas.

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:06 am
by RoyGBiv
baldeagle wrote:I just sent the following to Senator Watson.
VERY well done. :thumbs2:

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:54 pm
by Boxerrider
jmra wrote:Given the lack of participation (apathy if you will) on a recent OC/Campus Carry poll on this forum, I don't think the Senator has much to worry about.
I don't think we've seen much about campus carry because it has been around before, it is early in the process, and there are big federal issues in the spotlight. I emailed my elected officials shortly after it was introduced. I'm a middle-aged grad student, attending classes on Saturdays, in a building full of only grad students. Nothing bad will happen to me while I'm disarmed though. It's in Killeen and nothing bad ever happens in Killeen. :shock:

Enjoy!
Jeff

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:04 pm
by MeMelYup
Boxerrider wrote:
jmra wrote:Given the lack of participation (apathy if you will) on a recent OC/Campus Carry poll on this forum, I don't think the Senator has much to worry about.
I don't think we've seen much about campus carry because it has been around before, it is early in the process, and there are big federal issues in the spotlight. I emailed my elected officials shortly after it was introduced. I'm a middle-aged grad student, attending classes on Saturdays, in a building full of only grad students. Nothing bad will happen to me while I'm disarmed though. It's in Killeen and nothing bad ever happens in Killeen. :shock:

Enjoy!
Jeff
With that I need a float tube to sit in while wearing my waders."rlol"

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:20 pm
by texanjoker
Since schools are ran by liberals, I would expect that. Sad. I don't see it passing.

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:37 am
by Boxerrider
The Texas House of Representatives is where this stalled the last two sessions. I just reminded my rep to keep this bill moving by signing as a co-author. I encourage all of you to either ask yours to do the same, or to thank them for already doing so.
If we don't keep our thumbs on them they will wiggle out again.

Enjoy!
Jeff

Re: State Senator Kirk Watson opposes campus carry...

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:27 am
by Vic
I also sent an email to my Rep.
I got a reply stating he supports the bill.