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Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:25 pm
by baldeagle
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Looks like Gov. Perry has gotten inside CA leaders' heads. Pretty funny stuff.

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:17 pm
by psijac
Interesting read. I don't know what Perry was thinking running for President. Going from Govneror of Texas to President of the United States would be a demotion

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:51 pm
by JALLEN
It is hard to imagine a more vivid contrast between Governors. Maybe with the governors of Illinois who seem to have their own reserved cell at the penitentiary.

I realize that Perry has his detractors, but compared to what we have lived under for the last twenty years, since Pete Wilson left office, he seems like a Prince.

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:52 pm
by OldGrumpy
Would be great if Governor "Good Hair" would be spend more time helping the whole state instead of just looking good as a candidate. What he has allowed to happen to our school system is a disgrace as witnessed by last weeks state court decision. We will all be paying for this Perry messup.

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:02 pm
by SewTexas
this is Texas.....the gov. doesn't have a whole lot of say in what happens in our schools, that's the leg., if you don't like it, 1) pull your kids out, and 2) pay attention to what's going on in the education committee. I know Dr Donna is on that committee and is not happy with what she is seeing. I'm expecting some changes.

I'm not sure why people think Perry is all powerful, in Texas our gov is not that powerful, it's all Leg. that's simply the what it was set up.

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:12 pm
by OldCannon
SewTexas wrote: I'm not sure why people think Perry is all powerful, in Texas our gov is not that powerful, it's all Leg. that's simply the what it was set up.
Ignorant folks think the governor is "King of The State," whereas in Texas, we stuck it to the Republican reconstructionists and Lincoln's appointed governors by rewriting our constitution to place most of the power in the Lt. Gov's hands.

Not that Yankees, east or west coast, understand Texas history or government :tiphat:

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:26 pm
by OldGrumpy
SewTexas wrote:this is Texas.....the gov. doesn't have a whole lot of say in what happens in our schools, that's the leg., if you don't like it, 1) pull your kids out, and 2) pay attention to what's going on in the education committee. I know Dr Donna is on that committee and is not happy with what she is seeing. I'm expecting some changes.

I'm not sure why people think Perry is all powerful, in Texas our gov is not that powerful, it's all Leg. that's simply the what it was set up.

The Governor has about as much power in Texas as Obama does in national affairs. They have the bully pulpit to promote ideas of good governance. Obama use his wrongly, and Perry does not use his at all.

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:52 pm
by anygunanywhere
OldGrumpy wrote:
SewTexas wrote:this is Texas.....the gov. doesn't have a whole lot of say in what happens in our schools, that's the leg., if you don't like it, 1) pull your kids out, and 2) pay attention to what's going on in the education committee. I know Dr Donna is on that committee and is not happy with what she is seeing. I'm expecting some changes.

I'm not sure why people think Perry is all powerful, in Texas our gov is not that powerful, it's all Leg. that's simply the what it was set up.

The Governor has about as much power in Texas as Obama does in national affairs. They have the bully pulpit to promote ideas of good governance. Obama use his wrongly, and Perry does not use his at all.
I suppose that the democrat alternatives that have always run against Perry would have been much better choices that you would be happy with.

Anygunanywhere

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:32 pm
by fickman
OldGrumpy wrote:Governor "Good Hair"
Ahhh. . . the waning flare to let me know that I can feel free to disregard the rest of a statement.

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:47 pm
by jmra
fickman wrote:
OldGrumpy wrote:Governor "Good Hair"
Ahhh. . . the waning flare to let me know that I can feel free to disregard the rest of a statement.
I think oldgrumpy is appropriately named. :mrgreen:

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:50 pm
by Jasonw560
Gov. Perry does appoint the head of the state Board of Education, though.

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:46 pm
by TexasGal
No No No, We do NOT want more California natives moving here and bringing their liberal agenda with them. :banghead:

However,if he wants to invite California gun owners and gun-related businesses to move here, that's different. Come on over! :txflag:

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:59 pm
by baldeagle
OldGrumpy wrote:Would be great if Governor "Good Hair" would be spend more time helping the whole state instead of just looking good as a candidate. What he has allowed to happen to our school system is a disgrace as witnessed by last weeks state court decision. We will all be paying for this Perry messup.
Oh, good Lord. If you've been in Texas for any time at all, you know this isn't the state's first rodeo with the court system over school funding. I sometimes wonder if it will ever get straightened out. But to blame Perry for that is to completely misunderstand what's been going on in the past twenty or thirty years.

Since 1920 the cost per pupil of education has increased by a factor of 20, yet our current students "graduate" without being able to read, write or spell. The problem with Texas schools isn't their funding. It's the top heavy administrative ranks that do nothing but increase costs and decrease teacher autonomy. It's mismanagement, corruption and abject incompetence. For thirty years now we've heard a steady drumbeat from educational officials that they need more money. It's time to demand results from the money we already spend.

There are a number of private schools doing a much better job of teaching students for less money than what we pay for the failure we call public education.

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:55 pm
by Robert*PPS
TexasGal wrote:No No No, We do NOT want more California natives moving here and bringing their liberal agenda with them. :banghead:

However,if he wants to invite California gun owners and gun-related businesses to move here, that's different. Come on over! :txflag:

Amen!!!! I've always wondered how a liberal can leave a state being squeezed to death by a socialistic populace and come to a conservative or centralist state and keep the same political beliefs.

There is some "covert" operation to turn texas blue....

Re: Texas Trumps Governor Moonbeam

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:08 pm
by OldGrumpy
baldeagle wrote:
OldGrumpy wrote:Would be great if Governor "Good Hair" would be spend more time helping the whole state instead of just looking good as a candidate. What he has allowed to happen to our school system is a disgrace as witnessed by last weeks state court decision. We will all be paying for this Perry messup.
Oh, good Lord. If you've been in Texas for any time at all, you know this isn't the state's first rodeo with the court system over school funding. I sometimes wonder if it will ever get straightened out. But to blame Perry for that is to completely misunderstand what's been going on in the past twenty or thirty years.

Since 1920 the cost per pupil of education has increased by a factor of 20, yet our current students "graduate" without being able to read, write or spell. The problem with Texas schools isn't their funding. It's the top heavy administrative ranks that do nothing but increase costs and decrease teacher autonomy. It's mismanagement, corruption and abject incompetence. For thirty years now we've heard a steady drumbeat from educational officials that they need more money. It's time to demand results from the money we already spend.

There are a number of private schools doing a much better job of teaching students for less money than what we pay for the failure we call public education.

You missed on the first part because I doubt there are many on this forum more Texas than me. Born and raised here. Had family members who fought at San Jacinto - so drop the lecture about not being Texan! Rest of what you say is very valid. My point is that we need leadership to help overcome the obstacles that exist to Texas being first in education. Can the governor do it alone - absolutely not! However, I would like to see him leading the charge as George W. Bush and other governors have done.