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Obama Wants 100,000 American Students to Study in Communist China


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Secretary of State Hillary (I did not know about Benghazi) Clinton on Thursday will celebrate the launch of a newly rebranded organization called the “100,000 Strong Foundation,” which aims to have 100,000 American students studying in China by 2014.

Thursday's event will "underscore the importance of study abroad in China and the benefits to our strategic relationship with China as well as the personal benefits individuals receive through these exciting experiences," the news release said.

Anygunanywhere

America is where communism exists and grows like cancer. There aren't much communism in China anymore. Like time I checked, everybody is busy making money.

anygunanywhere wrote:Obama Wants 100,000 American Students to Study in Communist China


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-w ... nist-china

Secretary of State Hillary (I did not know about Benghazi) Clinton on Thursday will celebrate the launch of a newly rebranded organization called the “100,000 Strong Foundation,” which aims to have 100,000 American students studying in China by 2014.

Thursday's event will "underscore the importance of study abroad in China and the benefits to our strategic relationship with China as well as the personal benefits individuals receive through these exciting experiences," the news release said.

Anygunanywhere

Hey, my son studied in China, and I can assure you, he's no commie. Not that I support anything coming from the Criminal in Chief, who no doubt has ulterior motives for this proposal, but it seems like we'd want to have lots of people who can read and write Chinese. And really, today's China isn't all that much different from Obama's America, excepting perhaps it's maybe a little more free.

VMI77 wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:Obama Wants 100,000 American Students to Study in Communist China


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-w ... nist-china

Secretary of State Hillary (I did not know about Benghazi) Clinton on Thursday will celebrate the launch of a newly rebranded organization called the “100,000 Strong Foundation,” which aims to have 100,000 American students studying in China by 2014.

Thursday's event will "underscore the importance of study abroad in China and the benefits to our strategic relationship with China as well as the personal benefits individuals receive through these exciting experiences," the news release said.

Anygunanywhere

Hey, my son studied in China, and I can assure you, he's no commie. Not that I support anything coming from the Criminal in Chief, who no doubt has ulterior motives for this proposal, but it seems like we'd want to have lots of people who can read and write Chinese. And really, today's China isn't all that much different from Obama's America, excepting perhaps it's maybe a little more free.

Right. Try having baby girls or go to a real Catholic Mass and see how free you are.

Anygunanywhere

VMI77 wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:Obama Wants 100,000 American Students to Study in Communist China


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-w ... nist-china

Secretary of State Hillary (I did not know about Benghazi) Clinton on Thursday will celebrate the launch of a newly rebranded organization called the “100,000 Strong Foundation,” which aims to have 100,000 American students studying in China by 2014.

Thursday's event will "underscore the importance of study abroad in China and the benefits to our strategic relationship with China as well as the personal benefits individuals receive through these exciting experiences," the news release said.

Anygunanywhere

Hey, my son studied in China, and I can assure you, he's no commie. Not that I support anything coming from the Criminal in Chief, who no doubt has ulterior motives for this proposal, but it seems like we'd want to have lots of people who can read and write Chinese. And really, today's China isn't all that much different from Obama's America, excepting perhaps it's maybe a little more free.

one thing you can be sure of they will have better math skills.

anygunanywhere wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:Obama Wants 100,000 American Students to Study in Communist China


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-w ... nist-china

Secretary of State Hillary (I did not know about Benghazi) Clinton on Thursday will celebrate the launch of a newly rebranded organization called the “100,000 Strong Foundation,” which aims to have 100,000 American students studying in China by 2014.

Thursday's event will "underscore the importance of study abroad in China and the benefits to our strategic relationship with China as well as the personal benefits individuals receive through these exciting experiences," the news release said.

Anygunanywhere

Hey, my son studied in China, and I can assure you, he's no commie. Not that I support anything coming from the Criminal in Chief, who no doubt has ulterior motives for this proposal, but it seems like we'd want to have lots of people who can read and write Chinese. And really, today's China isn't all that much different from Obama's America, excepting perhaps it's maybe a little more free.

Right. Try having baby girls or go to a real Catholic Mass and see how free you are.

Anygunanywhere

I'm not drawing an equivalence --it's way too complicated for that. I don't know anything about Catholic Mass there, but the baby girl stuff is exaggerated. My son met people who have multiple children, including baby girls. Their punishment? After the first child, the State refuses to pay for things like schooling, and they have to pay a tax. Yes, it's not fair, but people who are wealthy enough can essentially have all the children they want. Of course, they can't own guns there. Othersie, there was nothing my son wanted to do in China that he couldn't do. But yeah, he wasn't criticizing the regime either. He didn't even encounter any internet restrictions. Ironically, he met many people who seemed to have values very similar to the values of 1950's America. He also spent some time in South Korea, and found that he faced more restrictions there than he did in China. China doesn't have a TSA at airports. My son got more hassle coming home to his own country than he did entering China. China doesn't have Obamacare either. People have to pay for their own medical treatment.

I'm not trying to convince anyone that China is more free or better than the US: it's not. However, we do seem to be on crossing trajectories, with China headed towards greater freedom and the US headed for less.

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VMI77 wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:Obama Wants 100,000 American Students to Study in Communist China


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-w ... nist-china

Secretary of State Hillary (I did not know about Benghazi) Clinton on Thursday will celebrate the launch of a newly rebranded organization called the “100,000 Strong Foundation,” which aims to have 100,000 American students studying in China by 2014.

Thursday's event will "underscore the importance of study abroad in China and the benefits to our strategic relationship with China as well as the personal benefits individuals receive through these exciting experiences," the news release said.

Anygunanywhere

Hey, my son studied in China, and I can assure you, he's no commie. Not that I support anything coming from the Criminal in Chief, who no doubt has ulterior motives for this proposal, but it seems like we'd want to have lots of people who can read and write Chinese. And really, today's China isn't all that much different from Obama's America, excepting perhaps it's maybe a little more free.

one thing you can be sure of they will have better math skills.

They may or may not. My son saw no evidence that the Chinese people are better educated. And the supposedly educated are superstitious and woefully ignorant about many things --especially about the world outside of China. But by simple math, we can be pretty sure that since China has about four times more people than we do, they also have about four times more smart people than we do, and with similar numbers in India, between them, they have about eight times more smart people that we do, which means we need to be very careful about immigration if we don't want to be working for them in the future.

VMI77 wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:Obama Wants 100,000 American Students to Study in Communist China


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-w ... nist-china

Secretary of State Hillary (I did not know about Benghazi) Clinton on Thursday will celebrate the launch of a newly rebranded organization called the “100,000 Strong Foundation,” which aims to have 100,000 American students studying in China by 2014.

Thursday's event will "underscore the importance of study abroad in China and the benefits to our strategic relationship with China as well as the personal benefits individuals receive through these exciting experiences," the news release said.

Anygunanywhere

Hey, my son studied in China, and I can assure you, he's no commie. Not that I support anything coming from the Criminal in Chief, who no doubt has ulterior motives for this proposal, but it seems like we'd want to have lots of people who can read and write Chinese. And really, today's China isn't all that much different from Obama's America, excepting perhaps it's maybe a little more free.

Right. Try having baby girls or go to a real Catholic Mass and see how free you are.

Anygunanywhere

I'm not drawing an equivalence --it's way too complicated for that. I don't know anything about Catholic Mass there, but the baby girl stuff is exaggerated. My son met people who have multiple children, including baby girls. Their punishment? After the first child, the State refuses to pay for things like schooling, and they have to pay a tax. Yes, it's not fair, but people who are wealthy enough can essentially have all the children they want. Of course, they can't own guns there. Othersie, there was nothing my son wanted to do in China that he couldn't do. But yeah, he wasn't criticizing the regime either. He didn't even encounter any internet restrictions. Ironically, he met many people who seemed to have values very similar to the values of 1950's America. He also spent some time in South Korea, and found that he faced more restrictions there than he did in China. China doesn't have a TSA at airports. My son got more hassle coming home to his own country than he did entering China. China doesn't have Obamacare either. People have to pay for their own medical treatment.

I'm not trying to convince anyone that China is more free or better than the US: it's not. However, we do seem to be on crossing trajectories, with China headed towards greater freedom and the US headed for less.

So he could get to all these sites?

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I respectfully beg to differ, but living in China would be a frustrating nightmare if you had to live there as a proletariat Chinese national. I guarantee you that your son was very well shielded from the horrors.

I wouldn't pass up a chance to visit China.

My employer was going to send me to Commie China. That is why I stopped traveling. I refuse to go. Their food sucks. Pollution is worse than anywhere in USA. No Catholic churches. No guns.

Why go?

Anygunanywhere

Not sure what a royal Emperor is thinking on this.


I spent a few years in China, so a couple of notes on what others have said.

Catholic Mass- available is almost every major city in both English and Mandarin/Cantonese

One Baby Rule- If you are in the country side and have no money to pay off an official this MIGHT apply to you. For everyone else this law is largely ignored. Most of the girls I knew that were of a lower middle class (in China standards) had 2 kids.

Money- You will see more Range Rovers, Lambos, Bentleys, etc. in one week in a major city in China than you will see in a year in a major city in the US. China is still an improvised nation. There is a great disparity in wealth, but there are lots of folks with lots of money. The local Chinese people are now heading to Hong Kong, Thailand, Taiwan in droves to shop and spend money.

Internet- Varies from hotel to hotel, city to city, and factory to factory. Some areas are no blocked websites, but sadly the majority do. Strangely enough this forum is NOT blocked.

Guns- never seen one there, not even on a policeman.

Food- different. I personally like it, but this is really more of a personal taste issue

Beliefs- the people here are crazy about lucky numbers, dates, which way a desk faces, running water, how one sits a purse down, etc. etc.

anygunanywhere wrote:My employer was going to send me to Commie China. That is why I stopped traveling. I refuse to go. Their food sucks. Pollution is worse than anywhere in USA. No Catholic churches. No guns.

Why go?

Anygunanywhere

To broaden horizons, learn about another culture, see how the "other side" lives, and all that goes along with it. I'd jump at an opportunity to go to China (inland China, not just HKG). If you refused to go, how do you know their food "sucks"? Surely you are not basing it on the "Wok on Wheels" (or other local Chinese food places) menu?

“The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page.”

steveincowtown wrote:Not sure what a royal Emperor is thinking on this.


I spent a few years in China, so a couple of notes on what others have said.

Catholic Mass- available is almost every major city in both English and Mandarin/Cantonese

The church you are referencing is the catholic (little c) church authorized by the commie government. It is not the legitimate Catholic Church faithful to the worldwide Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ.

Anygunanywhere

Redneck_Buddha wrote:
So he could get to all these sites?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_we ... d_in_China" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I respectfully beg to differ, but living in China would be a frustrating nightmare if you had to live there as a proletariat Chinese national. I guarantee you that your son was very well shielded from the horrors.

Have you been there? They do try to block websites, but it doesn't work too well. I doubt he tried all on the list, but he definitely used some of them. He also speaks Japanese and he spent a lot of time on Japanese sites. I sent him youtube links he viewed with no problem. I sent him links to anti-Chinese articles and he viewed them with no problem. I wouldn't have a Facebook account myself, but he does, and he accessed in China. IMDB, yep, he's a big movie buff. The sites I see that wrere probably blocked are the Tibet Post and Falun Dafa. He knew the authorities were sensitive about Tibet so he stayed away from it.

You can't understand China by reading about it in the Western media. What looks horrible on paper is not so horrible in reality --at least for those in the developing middle class. It's too complicated to describe in a short post, so I'll give an example. You go to a park in Beijing and there are signs at the entrance banning just about every possible activity you can think of other than walking through it or sitting on a bench. No sleeping, no eating, no kite flying, no running, no dancing, no music, etc. However, no one obeys any of these rules. Right at the entrance there might be a dance class playing music on a boombox, further inside, people picnicking, people sleeping on park benches, flying kites, etc. This was one of the contrasts with South Korea, where nearly everyone was careful to obey all the rules --in China, people ignore the laws and the rules, and they are not enforced, except in those areas that are particularly sensitive to the regime, like protesting about Tibet.

anygunanywhere wrote:My employer was going to send me to Commie China. That is why I stopped traveling. I refuse to go. Their food sucks. Pollution is worse than anywhere in USA. No Catholic churches. No guns.

Why go?

Anygunanywhere

In my son's experience, those things were certainly true. Not so true for a westerner though, as for the Chinese, since he could afford to eat in western style restaurants, and there are many high-end places in a city like Beijing. Outside a city like Beijing it is a much bigger problem.