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White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:03 pm
by nitrogen
Choice quotes:
The White House and gun control supporters are gearing up for a whirlwind month, with plans to pass reform legislation before outrage over the Sandy Hook massacre has a chance to fade.
Vice President Joe Biden, tasked with heading a commission to investigate gun violence, has been quietly meeting with experts, interest groups, and public officials and is expected to release a set of recommendations within weeks. Boston mayor Thomas Menino, co-chair of Michael Bloomberg’s Mayors Against Illegal Guns, told the Boston Herald this week that an optimistic Biden had assured him that Obama would sign legislation “by the end of January.”
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I'm actually shocked to see as much pro-2a in the comments as I did, despite my normal rule NEVER to read comments on news articles on any news site.
Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:58 pm
by Oldgringo
I think all Mayors should be against illegal guns. What am I missing here?
Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:09 am
by mr surveyor
Oldgringo wrote:I think all Mayors should be against illegal guns. What am I missing here?
they should all be deported (pick your subject from the above two choices)
Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:19 am
by nitrogen
Oldgringo wrote:I think all Mayors should be against illegal guns. What am I missing here?
The title really should be something like "Mayors that think all guns should be illegal".
the "illegal" in the title is a misnomer really.
Or was that sarcasm? I am really never able to tell these days :(
Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:06 am
by MeMelYup
I loved the comments for this article. Some of these people really have no clue. Some are so far out that they are humorous.
Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:31 am
by RPB
Appears they are using the "killer bee" tactic (a/k/a shotgun)
File lots of bills fast/all at once, maybe one can slip through.
Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:21 am
by VMI77
mr surveyor wrote:Oldgringo wrote:I think all Mayors should be against illegal guns. What am I missing here?
they should all be deported (pick your subject from the above two choices)
It's liberal speak and "illegal" means ALL guns not possessed by criminals or the government.
Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:49 am
by rp_photo
I for one am infuriated that Obama always seems to win and get his way at our expense.
I blame the "low information" voters.
Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:26 pm
by Heartland Patriot
And THIS is where Speaker Boehner, if he REALLY wants to show that he has some backbone and is an actual Republican conservative vs being a RINO, can do something. He can ensure that NONE of the anti-gun, anti-self-defense, anti-2A bills gets passed and push through the 2 or 3 PRO-firearms bills even though they will never make it through the Senate or get signed into law. I wish I knew a way to speak to him and explain that, but I doubt one guy in Texas is going to make an impact on his decisions, even if I did get to speak with him.
Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:36 pm
by rp_photo
Heartland Patriot wrote:And THIS is where Speaker Boehner, if he REALLY wants to show that he has some backbone and is an actual Republican conservative vs being a RINO, can do something. He can ensure that NONE of the anti-gun, anti-self-defense, anti-2A bills gets passed and push through the 2 or 3 PRO-firearms bills even though they will never make it through the Senate or get signed into law. I wish I knew a way to speak to him and explain that, but I doubt one guy in Texas is going to make an impact on his decisions, even if I did get to speak with him.
After being played like a fool over Romney's "sure victory" for many months and being severely let down, I find it hard to be optomistic.
I also heard that McCain may be preparing to stab us in the back, and if he does it's tempting to say that he got what he deserved in Hanoi.
Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:00 pm
by Heartland Patriot
rp_photo wrote:Heartland Patriot wrote:And THIS is where Speaker Boehner, if he REALLY wants to show that he has some backbone and is an actual Republican conservative vs being a RINO, can do something. He can ensure that NONE of the anti-gun, anti-self-defense, anti-2A bills gets passed and push through the 2 or 3 PRO-firearms bills even though they will never make it through the Senate or get signed into law. I wish I knew a way to speak to him and explain that, but I doubt one guy in Texas is going to make an impact on his decisions, even if I did get to speak with him.
After being played like a fool over Romney's "sure victory" for many months and being severely let down, I find it hard to be optomistic.
I also heard that McCain may be preparing to stab us in the back, and if he does it's tempting to say that he got what he deserved in Hanoi.
Please share where you heard that about Senator McCain; I'd like to read it for myself.
BTW, if WE give up, then THEY win without "firing a shot", all pun fully intended.
Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:05 pm
by rp_photo
Heartland Patriot wrote:
Please share where you heard that about Senator McCain; I'd like to read it for myself.
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Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:10 pm
by Jeff B.
"Biden had assured him that Obama would sign legislation “by the end of January.”"
That's assuming there is legislation to be signed. To my knowledge, The House of Representatives is still required to initiate legislation and forward it on to the Senate for their vote and then it goes on to the Office of the President.
At least, the last I knew it was still like that, unless that's another part of his "new Amerika"...
Jeff B.
Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:15 pm
by Heartland Patriot
rp_photo wrote:Heartland Patriot wrote:
Please share where you heard that about Senator McCain; I'd like to read it for myself.
http://gunowners.org/a01042013.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thank you for the link. It does sound like some chicanery all right. So, I contacted the NRA-ILA about it and added the link to the page you provided. I also asked them for a reply. If and when I get one, I will be sure to post it here. In the meantime, all concerned should contact Senator McCain and express their displeasure on any new gun control measures.
Re: White House Plans To Overwhelm NRA With Rapid Victory
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:16 pm
by anygunanywhere
Jeff B. wrote:"Biden had assured him that Obama would sign legislation “by the end of January.”"
That's assuming there is legislation to be signed. To my knowledge, The House of Representatives is still required to initiate legislation and forward it on to the Senate for their vote and then it goes on to the Office of the President.
At least, the last I knew it was still like that, unless that's another part of his "new Amerika"...
Jeff B.
There are constitutional rules about which body must originate certain types of legislation. The house must originate the budget process. Legislation like gun bans can come from either. Both have to approve each bill.
The rules don't mean squat to the traitors in the government.
Anygunanywhere