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Court rejects Texas redistricting maps
5:42 p.m. CDT, August 28, 2012
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. federal court ruled on Tuesday that controversial Texas redistricting maps discriminate against black and Hispanic voters, effectively killing the new districts before they could take effect for the November 6 presidential election.

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Texas Redistricting: Federal Court Blocks Legislature-Drawn Maps

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Texas Redistricting Hit Minorities, Court Rules
so, will we get even newer voter registration cards with our new district numbers on them?


Sheesh, try to prevent fraud by askin' for a picture, and they get all upset up in D.C. and try to keep us from votin'

What happens to the Republican primary I voted in ... do we get "do-overs?" What if I"m eligible to vote in a different district but not the one I voted in last time ...

Do we go back to the old County Commissioner, ....

This is nuts, everyone who wanted to vote, voted, count them and leave the lines alone.

What's this mean for Ted Cruz ...

Can I vote for Wes Riddle again?

My voter machine button pushing finger is caught in a vortex of time and multi-faceted dimensions now like ..... hurricane Issac

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To clarify (in case my attempt at comedy confused anyone)

The ruling applies to the maps originally drawn by the Legislature in 2011, and not interim maps drawn by a San Antonio federal court that are to be used in the upcoming elections this November.

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The ruling won?t affect the November election, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott said. The state will keep using interim electoral maps made by a federal court in San Antonio, which is hearing a separate challenge to the state?s redistricting plans. Mr. Abbott said he would appeal Tuesday?s ruling to the Supreme Court.

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You would think that Texas was still under the RECONSTRUCTION ACT of 1867 - the way these D.C. carpet baggers are behaving.

Anyone down getting back in the mood for seccession yet ?

A restored Republic of Texas would probably attract a heck of a lot of freedom loving patriots from the remaining 49 states.

This and the voter ID rejection has me pretty angry, that's for sure.

People have to present ID for a LOT of things in our modern life. The current administration is portraying this to the public through their media (propaganda) arm as somehow injurious to the poor. In reality, it just isn't that hard to get an ID card, if you don't have a driver's license or ID card already. Its a ridiculous show to support their Alinsky tactics of making your opponent look evil. I am already so disgusted with these crooks that I can't get any more upset about it, its just something that IS...

We need a national ID with Biometrics. Problem solved.

Without qualification, illegal voters disenfranchise U.S. citizens.

The oversight on redistricting is something we brought on ourselves. Texas, along with about eight other states, has a history of bad behavior in that area. Because of that all of our redistricting actions are subject to review.

As for the voter ID thing. That was a solution looking for a problem. There has been no evidence of any such fraud ever taking place in Texas. Why is it suddenly a problem? Also, getting an ID is not as easy for everyone as some seem to think. You have to go to a DPS office during normal business hours to get one. For most people that means taking unpaid time off of work. For many, taking time off of work isn't even allowed. If you don't have transportation it can be even more difficult. If you happen to live in one of the many counties that do not have a DPS office (only 1/3 of them have one) it is even tougher. All of this to fix a problem that doesn't actually exist.

3dfxMM wrote:The oversight on redistricting is something we brought on ourselves. Texas, along with about eight other states, has a history of bad behavior in that area". Because of that all of our redistricting actions are subject to review.

As for the voter ID thing. That was a solution looking for a problem. There has been no evidence of any such fraud ever taking place in Texas. Why is it suddenly a problem? Also, getting an ID is not as easy for everyone as some seem to think. You have to go to a DPS office during normal business hours to get one. For most people that means taking unpaid time off of work. For many, taking time off of work isn't even allowed. If you don't have transportation it can be even more difficult. If you happen to live in one of the many counties that do not have a DPS office (only 1/3 of them have one) it is even tougher. All of this to fix a problem that doesn't actually exist.

Youre delusional if you really believe that it was only "Texas, along with about other states" that has had a "history of bad behavior in that area. In fact you cant name one state in the nation that has never had a problem at the polls. I also suggest you read a little about "Landslide Lyndon" and then deny that proper voter ID wouldnt quickly solve voter fraud.

Anyone can find the time to take care of personal business if it is a priority in their life. Food stamps, DL, doctor visit, etc. and what about jury duty? You either show up or you can be held in contempt. As a responsible citizen I am willing to do my part to ensure that the voting process is clean & for those who wont, shame on them.

That was a solution looking for a problem

I dont buy what your selling.

Jim Beaux wrote:Without qualification, illegal voters disenfranchise U.S. citizens.

I now believe that is intentional, not accidental. The communists need voter fraud and rigged elections to convince The masses that their treason represents the will of the people. That's why they oppose ID for voting even while requiring ID to buy a gun, pass through TSA security to travel, get into their convention, etc.

PATHFINDER wrote:You would think that Texas was still under the RECONSTRUCTION ACT of 1867 - the way these D.C. carpet baggers are behaving.

Anyone down getting back in the mood for seccession yet ?

A restored Republic of Texas would probably attract a heck of a lot of freedom loving patriots from the remaining 49 states.

We tried the soap box. We tried the ballot box. Now we see the jury box is rigged too. There's only one box remaining to protect the constitution and the rights of US citizens.

3dfxMM wrote:All of this to fix a problem that doesn't actually exist.

Its very hard to see something you are not looking for. I personally have never seen a drug deal happen. You need an ID to buy cigarettes, alcohol, cash a check, buying a gun. If asking for an ID disenfranchises minorities then they all need to stop asking for ID. You can't possibly be down for that

What chaps me about this is other states have passed the same legislation without question. When Indiana passed their. Voter ID law now one said it was unfair. Pure discrimination against some states.

No two voter ID laws are the same. Even if you could get the language identical, the geography changes things. Here in Texas, roughly half the counties do not have a DPS office to go to, requiring folks to travel on their dime to get there where they can wait in line for days. This is no minor inconvenience. Don't kid yourself. The Dallas news has shown local offices where people line up at 4 am and still don't get in by closing time. The system in Texas is broken and all the guys in Austin do is wring their hands over it. How about this: add a class of ID that could be issued by each county at the court house or at mobile facilities. It would resolve some of the problems. As it stands, the net affect of requiring people to get a state ID is effectively a poll tax, and that friends is illegal.

3dfxMM wrote:The oversight on redistricting is something we brought on ourselves. Texas, along with about eight other states, has a history of bad behavior in that area. Because of that all of our redistricting actions are subject to review.

As for the voter ID thing. That was a solution looking for a problem. There has been no evidence of any such fraud ever taking place in Texas. Why is it suddenly a problem? Also, getting an ID is not as easy for everyone as some seem to think. You have to go to a DPS office during normal business hours to get one. For most people that means taking unpaid time off of work. For many, taking time off of work isn't even allowed. If you don't have transportation it can be even more difficult. If you happen to live in one of the many counties that do not have a DPS office (only 1/3 of them have one) it is even tougher. All of this to fix a problem that doesn't actually exist.

The only way I can respond to this is with CAPS. BALONEY, BALONEY, BALONEY. First of all, this cavalier attitude about the most precious right Americans have - to choose their own representatives - contributes to an attitude that vote fraud is not that big a deal and we shouldn't worry about it. This is precisely the wrong message to send. Every vote is precious, and every vote should be defended and guarded with zealousness. This is part of the reason why there is so much apathy among voters and why the turnouts are so abysmally low. And both parties are equally guilty of it, because it's to their advantage to be able to fudge a little when needed.

As to the facts, you are flat wrong. I anticipate that your response will be "Well, it's not that much, why make a big deal about it?" In response, I refer you to what I wrote above. EVERY vote is precious. ONE stolen vote is one too many.

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Democrats routinely commit fraud in their own caucuses:
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Our lawmakers routinely commit voter fraud:
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What makes you think they'd have any more scruples when it comes to their own elections?