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"The Government's New Right to Track Your Every Move With GPS"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599201315000

Short, interesting read. Granted, it's the 9th circuit court's ruling, but still.

Fangs wrote:"The Government's New Right to Track Your Every Move With GPS"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599201315000

Short, interesting read. Granted, it's the 9th circuit court's ruling, but still.

I wonder what they would say about my right to destroy my own property as long as I'm not committing fraud, etc.

If the GPS device is attached to my property, my vehicle, on my property, my driveway, and it doesn't have any identifying marks, it seems to me that I could remove it, just like I might remove some other part of the car, and throw it away. How am I supposed to know it's supposed to be there legally?

Fleeting freedoms.

jimlongley wrote: I wonder what they would say about my right to destroy my own property as long as I'm not committing fraud, etc.

If the GPS device is attached to my property, my vehicle, on my property, my driveway, and it doesn't have any identifying marks, it seems to me that I could remove it, just like I might remove some other part of the car, and throw it away. How am I supposed to know it's supposed to be there legally?

I wonder how easy it would be to detect that you had one of those. Depending on how good the device was hidden, it might take some fairly sophisticated electronics to know that it is there. My guess is that many new GM products already have them and that it would not even require the Government to do anything but tap into that signal. After all, the air waves are "public."

GPS signal jammer.

chasfm11 wrote:

jimlongley wrote: After all, the air waves are "public."

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202442083077" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And there is no expectation of privacy for anything you broadcast over the air waves. The link above is on the same lines as the GPS issue. I've not found the courts verdict on the cell phone privacy case, however, it seems big brother is always watching.

Thanks for posting this!! Now I can go back to disagreeing with the 9th Circuit Court.

Chas.

chasfm11 wrote:

jimlongley wrote: I wonder what they would say about my right to destroy my own property as long as I'm not committing fraud, etc.

If the GPS device is attached to my property, my vehicle, on my property, my driveway, and it doesn't have any identifying marks, it seems to me that I could remove it, just like I might remove some other part of the car, and throw it away. How am I supposed to know it's supposed to be there legally?

I wonder how easy it would be to detect that you had one of those. Depending on how good the device was hidden, it might take some fairly sophisticated electronics to know that it is there. My guess is that many new GM products already have them and that it would not even require the Government to do anything but tap into that signal. After all, the air waves are "public."

With some of my ham equipment I could find it in seconds, and may just start scanning my vehicles routinely.

My gps sits right beside me and has done so for 50 yrs. She gives me very good directions and sometimes a little more than I would like to hear, but being hard of hearing helps sometimes.
Jimmy

With some of my ham equipment I could find it in seconds, and may just start scanning my vehicles routinely.

You also know that as a ham you could "blanket" the GPS receiver using a couple of high power microwave transcievers in close proximity. All perfectly legal. However, I still like the idea of finding the device, removing it, and attaching it to a trash truck. Maybe even some philandering judge?

PeteCamp wrote:

With some of my ham equipment I could find it in seconds, and may just start scanning my vehicles routinely.

You also know that as a ham you could "blanket" the GPS receiver using a couple of high power microwave transcievers in close proximity. All perfectly legal. However, I still like the idea of finding the device, removing it, and attaching it to a trash truck. Maybe even some philandering judge?

Broadcasting a signal with the intent to block another ssignal is illegal. Now if I happened to be running a microwave intrusion detection system about my home and their receiver got swamped by my legal limit system, it might be another matter, but the main GPS frequency is not one that I am licensed to transmit on.

Better to find it, and as you suggest, put it somewhere else, but my temptation, stated before, is upon finding such a thing attached to my vehicle, and since I do still do some minor self-maintenance or my own vehicles, I know them pretty well, destroy it, having been presented no warrant, and then report the find to the police while playing dumb.

"Yeah, Ah seed this yer thang hangin' unner mah back bumper n jest coun't 'magine whut it maht be fer, but I knowed it warnt unner thar last week when I greased her up."

If someone puts GPS trackers on the personal vehicles of those judges, that's legal too.

Tamie wrote:If someone puts GPS trackers on the personal vehicles of those judges, that's legal too.

Except, they are likely some of the class elite that have gates around their property, thus making their driveway off-limits. Interesting how that works, isn't it?

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Thanks for posting this!! Now I can go back to disagreeing with the 9th Circuit Court.

Chas.

I agree with you and Newt Gingrich. Newt suggested that we just abolish the complete 9th Circuit Court and start over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=qtjfMjjce2Y