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Hi,

I just discovered the website: http://www.Texas3006.com . Anyways, it seems like more and more businesses are popping up these 30.06 signs. This is a violation of our constitutional rights. Remember the adage, "United we stand, divided we fall?" Well, I invite you to write a letter to Valley View Mall, threatening that your family will to do this year's Christmas shopping elsewhere if they do not tear down their 30.06 signs and replace them with "the unlicensed possession of a firearm is a felony" signs. The reason for the "unlicensed possession of a firearm is a felony" sign is so that they can "save face" in front of their liberal customers (that way they'll keep all customers and remain profitable, the goal of all corporations). An avalanche of snail mails will really get their attention. Please write to:

Valley View Mall Management address:

Arthur M. Coppola
Macerich
401 Wilshire Blvd, Suite 700
Santa Monica, CA 90401-1452

Also, write to major retailers at the mall such as JC Penney to have them pressure mall management as they do not want to lose business:
Myron E. Ullman III
JC Penney
6501 Legacy Drive
Plano, Texas 75024 - 3698

Please keep the letters short and to the point. For example, this is what I will write;

Dear Mr. Coppola, I respectfully request that you remove all the 30.06 signs in front all your malls, especially my local mall, Valley View Center. My family will not be doing any Christmas shopping at establishments that do not show support for our constitutional rights and therefore will not shop at Valley View this holliday season if the signs are not removed promptly. After you replace those 30.06 signs with signs that say, "The UNLICENSED carrying of a handgun on these premises is illegal," then we will resume shopping at Valley View Center. Thank you, (my name).

Dear Mr. Ullman, I respectfully request that you pressure Mr. Coppola of Macerich to remove all 30.06 signs in front of the malls that they manage with a JC Penney's in it, especially my local mall, The Valley View Mall. My family will not be doing any Christmas shopping at establishments that do show support for our constitutional rights and therefore will not shop at Valley View Mall this holliday season if the signs are not removed promptly. After you replace those 30.06 signs with signs that say, "The UNLICENSED carrying of a handgun on these premises is illegal," then we will resume shopping at JC Penney. Thank you, (my name).

Also, be sure to call Rob Jackson, the property manager at Valley View Mall: (972) 661-2939
Again, just keep it short and sweet. Just politely tell him that you've shopped there in the past, but will refuse to do so this Christmas if they don't remove the 30.06 signs to show support for constitutional rights.

You might be surprised to find that if we were to write letters to different malls, then our efforts would be too scattered to do any good. If you live in Texas, please write letters to the Valley View Mall (and JC Penney) so that we'll concentrate our letters in one place for maximum effect. If you do not live in Texas, please refer to this map for a Macerich operated mall near you:
http://www.macerich.com/static/files/do ... ure_09.pdf

Thanks,


P.S. I chose the mall as our rallying point because it is the most effect for the least amount of letters/phone calls (& work) since liberating the mall would essentially liberate over 100 businesses with just 2 letters written and one telephone call per person (one to JC Penney and one to Valley View Mall).

Willow Bend is posted 30.06? I've never seen a 30.06 sign there. Is this something new?

I was just there 3 weeks ago and didn't see a sign.

There are two malls near me.... Grapevine Mills, and the Northeast Mall in HEB. The Grapevine Mills is posted, and it is managed by an out of state company that doesn't care about CHL, and they are simply not going to respond. I go to the Northeast Mall in HEB, which isn't posted.

Very best thing to do is send some receipts from the other mall w/ the letter. Prefferable a big ticket item or several from different stores. couple hundred $$$$$s worth of register receipts gets way more attention than just a letter.

I guess there is some compelling reason to go to any mall?

Oldgringo wrote:I guess there is some compelling reason to go to any mall?

I haven't found one in years.

C-dub wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:I guess there is some compelling reason to go to any mall?

I haven't found one in years.

The women folk seem to love them.... something about some F-word....... fashion.. that's it.

drjoker wrote:
it seems like more and more businesses are popping up these 30.06 signs. This is a violation of our constitutional rights.

You're constitutional rights end where theirs begin. On their private property you don't have the right to force your views/opinions on them. I'm not saying I agree with their decision to post 30.06, just that they have the right to be free to make their own choices just like us.

BTW, WIllow Bend is a terrible (and fru-fru) mall.Even teenagers don't hang out there.

I haven't been to a mall in 10 years or more, and before that it was only once a year when I "had to". There's nothing in the mall that I can't find at the local outlets... and besides, there aren't any gun shops in the mall.


I HATE malls!


surv

Hey, some months ago, I and some buddies of mine wrote a bunch of letters to Willow Bend Mall. They have not responded to our letters so I thought that they blew us off. I haven't been back to that mall since. Because of what Kythas said, I went there this morning and the 30.06 sign is gone! Yay! Those letters really worked! Thanks for pointing this out to me Kythas!

The tide is starting to turn! Let's keep up the pressure folks! I invite you to write the Valley View Mall and JC Penney. Also, please be sure to phone the property manager of Valley View Mall. Phone calls are more attention-grabbing, but emails are a good 2nd bet if they don't answer the phone: robb.jackson@macerich.com
. Or you can even leave a message for them saying that you're interested in renting a store. Then, when he calls back ask if he has 30.06 posted and explain that you've changed your mind about renting since he doesn't respect constitutional rights. Be sure to promise to shop there once the signs are changed. Remember, they are a business and business are ONLY about making money. This holliday season is make-or-break for many retailers and if they can do something (anything) to make an extra buck this holliday season, they WILL do it. That's why I did not suggest that they only take down the 30.06 signs, but to change them to "UNLICENSED handguns are prohibited" signs so that they won't offend their liberal customers who don't know the difference between a 30.06 and other legally invalid signs. That way, their support of our constitutional rights will mean MORE business for them, not less. If you can send in copies of receipts from purchases at their mall that you've made in the past like the other poster suggested, that would be great. Remember, they'll do ANYTHING for a PAYING CUSTOMER, but not a civil rights agitator.

Thanks guys!


P.S. mymojo, I understand that business owners have a right to exclude anyone that they want, including CHL holders. However, private businesses (especially ones that operate as private clubs) also have a right to exclude minorities such as Blacks and Hispanics. Didn't Martin Luther King stand up against this? In addition, we as customers have a right to spend money where we please. You might be surprised to find that writing a letter to remind them of this is a good idea.

Due to a lack of response, I will be giving away a free USA HANDMADE LEATHER HIP HOLSTER in a drawing for all those who write letters. In order to qualify for the free holster, write 2 letters (one for JC Penney and one for the mall management) with a word processor and print them out. Be sure to sign your letter with a pen. Then, cut and paste the letters into this thread by posting your letters. I will randomly draw one person one week from now to win the holster. The winner will be drawn from a pool of posters on this forum, the THR forum, and the Defensive Carry forum. You may only enter into the contest once. You may not enter once at each of the three forums. After you win, I will PM and tell you where to mail a signed sworn statement that states you really wrote and mailed off 2 letters plus either made a phone call or sent an email. After I receive this, I will mail you the free holster. If you are a woman, I will send you either a free holster or if you'd like, I can install the holster in your purse. Just mail me a purse with a broken shoulder strap and I will fix it and turn it into a purse holster. Please do not send me a new purse (some designer purses cost over $1000 and I do not want to be responsibe for it). I will even customize the purse or holster with your initials or name (if your name isn't too long, I can do "John or Jane Smith" but I cannot do "Edelbringen Wyzinski Petrovosky", though EWP is O.K.). I can even engrave custom patterns or floral prints on it, if you want. Winner will be announced here on the forum. Sorry, there is not a picture of the holster/purse as it will be CUSTOM MADE. A pic of the holster/purse will be posted on here after it is finished and ready to ship to the lucky winner. I invite you to start writing those letters now and fight for your constitutional rights!



P.S. the holster will fit a medium size automatic or snub nosed revolver such as a Glock 19 or Charter Arms Pink Lady.

I don't believe that a business can just decide to put up a "unlicensed possession of a firearm is a felony" sign because they want to. Isn't it actually a misdemeanor unless the business sells alcohol?

3dfxMM wrote:I don't believe that a business can just decide to put up a "unlicensed possession of a firearm is a felony" sign because they want to. Isn't it actually a misdemeanor unless the business sells alcohol?

I see those signs all over, I remember them specifically at Luby's Restaurant and Carrabba's. I don't see why they should be limited to any place that sells booze.

Purplehood wrote:I see those signs all over, I remember them specifically at Luby's Restaurant and Carrabba's. I don't see why they should be limited to any place that sells booze.

Luby's yeah, because no one would ever need a gun in there, right?

3dfxMM wrote:I don't believe that a business can just decide to put up a "unlicensed possession of a firearm is a felony" sign because they want to. Isn't it actually a misdemeanor unless the business sells alcohol?

I think it's a TABC regulation(for the retailer) to post those signs in places that sell alcohol for off premise consumption.