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Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:05 pm
by Keith B
This is what I have been worried about. He could use this to renact the AWB as well as other other anti-gun items. :banghead:
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Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact
By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writer

Stephen Ohlemacher, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON – President-elect Obama plans to use his executive powers to make an immediate impact when he takes office, perhaps reversing Bush administration policies on stem cell research and domestic drilling for oil and natural gas.

John Podesta, Obama's transition chief, said Sunday Obama is reviewing President Bush's executive orders on those issues and others as he works to undo policies enacted during eight years of Republican rule. He said the president can use such orders to move quickly on his own.

"There's a lot that the president can do using his executive authority without waiting for congressional action, and I think we'll see the president do that," Podesta said. "I think that he feels like he has a real mandate for change. We need to get off the course that the Bush administration has set."

Podesta also said Obama is working to build a diverse Cabinet. That includes reaching out to Republicans and independents — part of the broad coalition that supported Obama during the race against Republican John McCain. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has been mentioned as a possible holdover.

"He's not even a Republican," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said. "Why wouldn't we want to keep him? He's never been a registered Republican."

Obama was elected on a promise of change, but the nature of the job makes it difficult for presidents to do much that has an immediate impact on the lives of average people. Congress plans to take up a second economic aid plan before year's end — an effort Obama supports. But it could be months or longer before taxpayers see the effect.

Obama could use his executive powers to at least signal that Washington is changing.

"Obama's advantage of course is he'll have the House and the Senate working with him, and that makes it easier," said Carl Tobias, a law professor at the University of Richmond. "But even then, having an immediate impact is very difficult to do because the machinery of government doesn't move that quickly."

Presidents long have used executive orders to impose policy and set priorities. One of Bush's first acts was to reinstate full abortion restrictions on U.S. overseas aid. The restrictions were first ordered by President Reagan and the first President Bush followed suit. President Clinton lifted them soon after he occupied the Oval Office and it wouldn't be surprising if Obama did the same.

Executive orders "have the power of law and they can cover just about anything," Tobias said in a telephone interview.

Bush used his executive power to limit federal spending on embryonic stem cell research, a position championed by opponents of abortion rights who argue that destroying embryos is akin to killing a fetus. Obama has supported the research in an effort to find cures for diseases such as Alzheimer's. Many moderate Republicans also support the research, giving it the stamp of bipartisanship.

On drilling, the federal Bureau of Land Management is opening about 360,000 acres of public land in Utah to oil and gas drilling. Bush administration officials argue that the drilling will not harm sensitive areas; environmentalists oppose it.

"They want to have oil and gas drilling in some of the most sensitive, fragile lands in Utah," Podesta said. "I think that's a mistake."

Two top House Republicans said there is a willingness to try to work with Obama to get things done. But they said to expect Republicans to serve as a check against the power held by Obama and Democratic leaders in Congress.

"It's going to be a cheerful opposition," said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind. "We're going to carry those timeless principles of limited government, a strong defense, traditional values, to the American people."

Pence, of Indiana, is expected to take over the No. 3 leadership post among House Republicans.

In other transition matters, Obama's new chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, would not say whether Obama would return to the Senate for votes during the postelection session this month. Obama's presence would be extraordinary, given his position as president-elect, especially if Congress takes up a much-anticipated economic stimulus plan.

"I think that the basic approach has been he's going to be here in Chicago, setting up his economic, not only his economic team, but the policies he wants to outline for the country as soon as he gets sworn in, so we hit the ground running," Emanuel said.

Also, Emanuel would not commit to a Democratic proposal to help the auto industry with some of the $700 billion approved by Congress to for the financial bailout.

Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said in a letter Saturday to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson that the administration should consider expanding the bailout to include car companies.

Podesta appeared on "Fox News Sunday," as did Pence, and CNN's "Late Edition," where Reid also was interviewed. Emanuel spoke on ABC's "This Week" and CBS' "Face the Nation."

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:00 pm
by stevie_d_64
I am thinking that it is going to be unlikely he is going to E.O. his way to do anything with our right to keep and bear arms...

Why should he, when the legislative branch can do it for him..."Spread the blame" right???

It does prove one thing, that if the idea of him using this "privalege" of office, that we had better be more attentive and vigilant about ALL things this administration is going to do to us during its first, and hopefully only term...

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:15 am
by The Annoyed Man
Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1'
By Warner Todd Huston
NewsBusters
November 10, 2008 - 02:02 ET
The co-chair of Barack Obama's Transition Team, Valerie Jarrett, appeared on Meet the Press this weekend and used, shall we say, an interesting word to described what she thinks Barack Obama will be doing in January when he's officially sworn into office. She told Tom Brokaw that Obama will be ready to "rule" on day one. It's a word that reflects the worst fears that people have for Obama the "arrogant," the "messiah," that imagines he's here to "rule" instead of govern.

Jarret told Brokaw that "given the daunting challenges that we face, it's important that president elect Obama is prepared to really take power and begin to rule day one."
As one commenter on this linked article said, "We fought a revolution to get rid of rulers. We're not ready yet to accept one again."

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:56 pm
by j_dock2
"Obama's advantage of course is he'll have the House and the Senate working with him, and that makes it easier," said Carl Tobias, a law professor at the University of Richmond. "But even then, having an immediate impact is very difficult to do because the machinery of government doesn't move that quickly."
You know where the machinery of government moves very quickly indeed?

Dictatorships.

Checks and balances slow things down. We like them for that reason.

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:07 pm
by bdickens
The harder it is for government to do things, the less they can mess them up.

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:50 pm
by iratollah
It is my understanding that this is something that virtually every incoming POTUS does. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:49 pm
by ErnieP
I think it is highly unlikely that an EO will be used for this purpose. Also, don't forget that all Senators and Members of Congress must stand for re-election, and are unlikely to tread too heavily on the 2nd Amendment. Until Obama is able to shift the Supreme Court, I doubt the legislative branch will jump in here....Keep your fingers crossed!!!!

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:29 pm
by anygunanywhere
ErnieP wrote:I think it is highly unlikely that an EO will be used for this purpose. Also, don't forget that all Senators and Members of Congress must stand for re-election, and are unlikely to tread too heavily on the 2nd Amendment. Until Obama is able to shift the Supreme Court, I doubt the legislative branch will jump in here....Keep your fingers crossed!!!!
Wagers?

They are chomping at the bit.

The Bradys think they are owed.

Time to collect.

Anygunanywhere

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:28 pm
by tallmike
Funny, I read the same information a couple of days ago and my first thought was "finally, a more open government again" because he plans to roll back many of bush's secretive government rules - some of which make it hard for FOIA requests to be granted in certain cases.

How can so many people worry about just 1 thing? Really, isnt governmental overreaching bad even if its not guns they are after?

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:02 am
by anygunanywhere
tallmike wrote:Funny, I read the same information a couple of days ago and my first thought was "finally, a more open government again" because he plans to roll back many of bush's secretive government rules - some of which make it hard for FOIA requests to be granted in certain cases.

How can so many people worry about just 1 thing? Really, isnt governmental overreaching bad even if its not guns they are after?
The only EOs that maobama will eliminate are the ones he does not agree with. Next he will issue his own. All government intrusion into our lives is wrong.

If an EO goes beyond mandating casual Friday it should be null and void because it probably is unconstitutional.

Anygunanywhere

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:29 am
by tallmike
anygunanywhere wrote:The only EOs that maobama will eliminate are the ones he does not agree with. Next he will issue his own. All government intrusion into our lives is wrong.

If an EO goes beyond mandating casual Friday it should be null and void because it probably is unconstitutional.

Anygunanywhere
If all government intrusion is wrong then why havent we heard people screaming about the 279 EOs that Bush has issued?

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:04 am
by anygunanywhere
tallmike wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:The only EOs that maobama will eliminate are the ones he does not agree with. Next he will issue his own. All government intrusion into our lives is wrong.

If an EO goes beyond mandating casual Friday it should be null and void because it probably is unconstitutional.

Anygunanywhere
If all government intrusion is wrong then why havent we heard people screaming about the 279 EOs that Bush has issued?

AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!

I think the answer is that it all depends on whose ox is being gored.

Anygunanywhere

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:19 am
by The Annoyed Man
Obama has already been trying to exert his oval office influence before he's even in the office.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashbol.htm
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BUSH ANGER: OBAMA AIDES LEAK CHAT DETAILS
Tue Nov 11 2008 09:28:10 ET

Just hours after President Bush and President-elect Obama met in the Oval Office of the White House, details of their confidential conversation began leaking out to the press, igniting anger from the president, sources claim.

"Senator Obama would be wise to keep close counsel," a top Bush source warned.

"BUSH AND OBAMA AT ODDS OVER AID FOR AUTO INDUSTRY," splashed the NEW YORK TIMES in an exclusive Monday evening, quoting "people familiar with the discussion."

The two met at the White House in private, without staff.

"Bush indicated at the meeting that he might support some aid and a broader economic stimulus package if Obama and congressional Democrats dropped their opposition to a free-trade agreement with Colombia," claimed the TIMES.

MORE

The ASSOCIATED PRESS quickly followed with details of the conversation, citing "aides who described the discussion on grounds of anonymity, citing the private nature of the meeting."

Bush advisers view the leaks as an effort to undermine the president's remaining days in office.

"Senator Obama may not be familiar with a long-standing tradition of presidents holding their private conversations, private," a senior adviser explained to the DRUDGE REPORT.

Developing...
If there were no aides present during the conversation, then the only way aides could have leaked the substance of the private conversation is if Obama briefed them on it. And these scumbags, under cover of "anonymity," then leak the substance to the press - the NYT in particular.

Obama has not one tiny shred of integrity, and his aides are lower than snake bellies in a wagon rut.

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:21 am
by Charles L. Cotton
tallmike wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:The only EOs that maobama will eliminate are the ones he does not agree with. Next he will issue his own. All government intrusion into our lives is wrong.

If an EO goes beyond mandating casual Friday it should be null and void because it probably is unconstitutional.

Anygunanywhere
If all government intrusion is wrong then why havent we heard people screaming about the 279 EOs that Bush has issued?
Because he didn't issue one dealing with guns and the concern expressed by many here is that Obama will target guns or ammo. All Presidents issue executive orders; I think it's Obama's announcement of when and why he's going to do it that raises concerns.

Here is a list of the Executive Orders signed by Geo. W. Bush.

Chas.