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Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

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EEllis wrote:http://www.policeone.com/police-product ... id=6401137

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Riot car used by policemen with powerful rifles hid behind steel plates with gun outlets, 1920 – 1929 (approximate). (Photo by Leslie Jones)
  1. Cops are allowed to goose-hunt with '03-A3 Springfields?
  2. Stuff looks good until it actually gets used.....then nobody wants to be on camera explaining themselves....
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Riot guns at Boston Police headquarters, 1934. (Photo by Leslie Jones)
No problem. Every police department should have access to large numbers of shotguns......and patrol carbines too. That's not quite the same thing as having APCs.
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Superintendent Michael Crowley with machine gunners at headquarters. They are ready for big May Day riots, 1920. (Photo by Leslie Jones)
Nice. They're going to murder Americans for having an unpopular political opinion. When all those commies are dead, is Mr. Crowley going to own the responsibility for it?
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“With the latest guns, Boston police will fear nothing. The “Reds” will be met severely in case the start anything”. 1919. (Photo by Leslie Jones)
  1. What if the police start something?
  2. Will they own the deaths of Americans they killed over a difference in political opinions?
Enough of my posts are up denouncing communism and the kleptocrat in chief that I don't need to apologize for for the above. But I'll be hanged if I will fire on American citizens over a political difference.........unless they fire on me first.

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Shortly after the end of World War I and the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, the Red Scare took hold in the United States. A nationwide fear of communists, socialists, anarchists, and other dissidents suddenly grabbed the American psyche in 1919 following a series of anarchist bombings. The nation was gripped in fear. Innocent people were jailed for expressing their views, civil liberties were ignored, and many Americans feared that a Bolshevik-style revolution was at hand. Then, in the early 1920s, the fear seemed to dissipate just as quickly as it had begun, and the Red Scare was over.
For this, the Boston PD geared up with crew-served weapons.

Shameful.
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Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

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Come on ya'll!
This isn't Nazi Germany!
Are you really worried that a "Modern" Western Democracy could arbitrarily turn on a disfavored domestic political group, claim they were "Terrorists", launch a military operation at 4:00 am, arrest, without criminal warrant, 342 men(the total would climb to 1,981)and hold them with out trial for years?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Demetrius
Yes, it's Wiki, but they got the numbers right.

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The whole AR ban and EBRs in general?

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Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

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Dadtodabone wrote:Come on ya'll!
This isn't Nazi Germany!
Are you really worried that a "Modern" Western Democracy could arbitrarily turn on a disfavored domestic political group, claim they were "Terrorists", launch a military operation at 4:00 am, arrest, without criminal warrant, 342 men(the total would climb to 1,981)and hold them with out trial for years?
You don't have to cross the Atlantic for an example......how about Michigan Militia (not as many, and they probably had a warrant, though it was based on bogus info). These days the FBI just makes up whatever it needs to get a warrant, so I don't think a warrant is any impediment to rounding people up on spurious charges.
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Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

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VMI77 wrote:
Dadtodabone wrote:Come on ya'll!
This isn't Nazi Germany!
Are you really worried that a "Modern" Western Democracy could arbitrarily turn on a disfavored domestic political group, claim they were "Terrorists", launch a military operation at 4:00 am, arrest, without criminal warrant, 342 men(the total would climb to 1,981)and hold them with out trial for years?
You don't have to cross the Atlantic for an example......how about Michigan Militia (not as many, and they probably had a warrant, though it was based on bogus info). These days the FBI just makes up whatever it needs to get a warrant, so I don't think a warrant is any impediment to rounding people up on spurious charges.
Just my opinion, but I can't see comparing the Hutaree case with Demetrius and it's aftermath. They were charged, whether spurious or not, arraigned, freed upon making bond, tried and found not guilty of conspiracy and sedition. 2 members were convicted on weapons charges and sentenced to time served and 2 years probation. Unjust sure, comparable no.
No charges were brought before or after The Interment began. The UK and Ulster government just thought it would be a good idea to round these folks up. The British Army wound up occupying Belfast and environs for 27 years, more than 3500, soldiers, cops, provos, uvfs and civilians died. There were more than 45,000 wounded. Tens of millions of pounds in property was destroyed. Hundreds of millions spent to support the Army and RUC.
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