TX: How to dispose of your bump stops in Houston

[crazy2medic]

I don't have a bump stock, I have played with one once and wasn't impressed, getting the hang of it takes a bit of effort and is counterintuitive to shooting a rifle with accuracy, but I think taking somebodies property without just compensation is Government over reach and unconstitutional! Had I been caught up in this mess I most likely would have squirreled said item away and just waited for better times! My 2 cents!

[Grumpy1993]

What would happen if I made several bump stocks that did not fit any existing rifle, and tried to sell them online?

There's only one way to find out. Keep us updated please.

[Scott B.]

This one was not lost in one of the many tragic boat accidents I've been hearing about. The coast guard and insurance agencies really need to come up with ways of preventing these sorts of accidents.

Destroyed on the deadline per ATF guidelines.

I get the fun job of gluing it all back together because we're registering it as a 'machine gun' [have a manufacturer license and an SOT so can do this]. Eventually, it will go in a nice display case with a brass "Machine Gun" tag on it.

[bbhack]

What would happen if I made several bump stocks that did not fit any existing rifle, and tried to sell them online?

There's only one way to find out. Keep us updated please.

I think I'll try making some Imaginary ones first, to fit the Imaginary Arms ARR1500, a carbine that's still in the napkin sketch phase.

[WildRose]

Tid Bit I learned today, my son works for a firearm distributor so I ask him about the ability of ATF to find somebody who had purchased a Bump Stock, he said it would be virtually impossible!
I find that interesting!

Shipping records and credit card receipts will create a direct line to most purchasers.

If they don't already have warrants for all the records of the producers and distributors you know they will ASAP.

Been watching too many teevee fiction cop shows lately? Like when they get DNA matches in milliseconds from the crime labs?

No, this isn't CSI nor does it need to be. Getting a warrant only takes a few hours and they've had months to prepare for this day.

[WildRose]

Tid Bit I learned today, my son works for a firearm distributor so I ask him about the ability of ATF to find somebody who had purchased a Bump Stock, he said it would be virtually impossible!
I find that interesting!

Shipping records and credit card receipts will create a direct line to most purchasers.

If they don't already have warrants for all the records of the producers and distributors you know they will ASAP.

Your theory sounds quite plausible. However, as I stated before, where are the resources in people and money to accomplish that goal?

ATF, FBI, State, and Local PD's.

In all likelihood they'll start with letters informing purchasers they now own an illegal device and advise them on how to lawfully dispose of them.

I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

[K.Mooneyham]

Tid Bit I learned today, my son works for a firearm distributor so I ask him about the ability of ATF to find somebody who had purchased a Bump Stock, he said it would be virtually impossible!
I find that interesting!

Shipping records and credit card receipts will create a direct line to most purchasers.

If they don't already have warrants for all the records of the producers and distributors you know they will ASAP.

Your theory sounds quite plausible. However, as I stated before, where are the resources in people and money to accomplish that goal?

ATF, FBI, State, and Local PD's.

In all likelihood they'll start with letters informing purchasers they now own an illegal device and advise them on how to lawfully dispose of them.

I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

So, are you suggesting that DPS and Texas county sheriffs are going to actively aid the ATF in the task of gathering up bumpstocks, and arresting those who possess them? Somehow, I don't think that is going to be a very popular position, though I can imagine that a couple of large city PDs in this state will be directed to arrest anyone caught with a bumpstock in their jurisdictions, solely based on the political affiliations of their Chiefs.

[WildRose]

Tid Bit I learned today, my son works for a firearm distributor so I ask him about the ability of ATF to find somebody who had purchased a Bump Stock, he said it would be virtually impossible!
I find that interesting!

Shipping records and credit card receipts will create a direct line to most purchasers.

If they don't already have warrants for all the records of the producers and distributors you know they will ASAP.

Your theory sounds quite plausible. However, as I stated before, where are the resources in people and money to accomplish that goal?

ATF, FBI, State, and Local PD's.

In all likelihood they'll start with letters informing purchasers they now own an illegal device and advise them on how to lawfully dispose of them.

I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

So, are you suggesting that DPS and Texas county sheriffs are going to actively aid the ATF in the task of gathering up bumpstocks, and arresting those who possess them? Somehow, I don't think that is going to be a very popular position, though I can imagine that a couple of large city PDs in this state will be directed to arrest anyone caught with a bumpstock in their jurisdictions, solely based on the political affiliations of their Chiefs.

They won't have much choice since unlawful possession of any NFA restricted item is also unlawful under Texas law.

As I said though; I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

[K.Mooneyham]

Tid Bit I learned today, my son works for a firearm distributor so I ask him about the ability of ATF to find somebody who had purchased a Bump Stock, he said it would be virtually impossible!
I find that interesting!

Shipping records and credit card receipts will create a direct line to most purchasers.

If they don't already have warrants for all the records of the producers and distributors you know they will ASAP.

Your theory sounds quite plausible. However, as I stated before, where are the resources in people and money to accomplish that goal?

ATF, FBI, State, and Local PD's.

In all likelihood they'll start with letters informing purchasers they now own an illegal device and advise them on how to lawfully dispose of them.

I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

So, are you suggesting that DPS and Texas county sheriffs are going to actively aid the ATF in the task of gathering up bumpstocks, and arresting those who possess them? Somehow, I don't think that is going to be a very popular position, though I can imagine that a couple of large city PDs in this state will be directed to arrest anyone caught with a bumpstock in their jurisdictions, solely based on the political affiliations of their Chiefs.

They won't have much choice since unlawful possession of any NFA restricted item is also unlawful under Texas law.

As I said though; I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

So, you make it sound like the Federal government runs DPS and controls the Sheriffs in Texas. If that's the case, then maybe we need a law like a few other states have passed, stating that our state will not actively allocate resources to aid in any new gun control schemes. There are a LOT of criminals out there, actual bad folks doing bad things to other people, and police time and funding is a finite resource. Spending ANY of that going through the process of busting someone for a bumpstock is a gross waste of that time and money, IMHO.

[howdy]

The things are useless now unless the ruling is overturned. You can't take it to the range, farm, gun range. If you have it outside, there is always the weird chance that it may be seen and you be the test case. It will be pretty obvious to a nearby game warden that you are shooting "fully automatic" if he hears that rifle being fired with a bump stock.

[WildRose]

Tid Bit I learned today, my son works for a firearm distributor so I ask him about the ability of ATF to find somebody who had purchased a Bump Stock, he said it would be virtually impossible!
I find that interesting!

Shipping records and credit card receipts will create a direct line to most purchasers.

If they don't already have warrants for all the records of the producers and distributors you know they will ASAP.

Your theory sounds quite plausible. However, as I stated before, where are the resources in people and money to accomplish that goal?

ATF, FBI, State, and Local PD's.

In all likelihood they'll start with letters informing purchasers they now own an illegal device and advise them on how to lawfully dispose of them.

I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

So, are you suggesting that DPS and Texas county sheriffs are going to actively aid the ATF in the task of gathering up bumpstocks, and arresting those who possess them? Somehow, I don't think that is going to be a very popular position, though I can imagine that a couple of large city PDs in this state will be directed to arrest anyone caught with a bumpstock in their jurisdictions, solely based on the political affiliations of their Chiefs.

They won't have much choice since unlawful possession of any NFA restricted item is also unlawful under Texas law.

As I said though; I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

So, you make it sound like the Federal government runs DPS and controls the Sheriffs in Texas. If that's the case, then maybe we need a law like a few other states have passed, stating that our state will not actively allocate resources to aid in any new gun control schemes. There are a LOT of criminals out there, actual bad folks doing bad things to other people, and police time and funding is a finite resource. Spending ANY of that going through the process of busting someone for a bumpstock is a gross waste of that time and money, IMHO.

No, that's not what I said at all. Texas law mirrors federal law on NFA items and our LEO's are duty bound to enforce those laws.

They also receive a huge amount of Federal Money through various grants and cooperative agreements which they cannot afford to lose.

[WildRose]

The things are useless now unless the ruling is overturned. You can't take it to the range, farm, gun range. If you have it outside, there is always the weird chance that it may be seen and you be the test case. It will be pretty obvious to a nearby game warden that you are shooting "fully automatic" if he hears that rifle being fired with a bump stock.

Not to mention any meddling neighbors who will gladly pick up the phone and report that they are hearing automatic fire from your location.

[WildRose]

The things are useless now unless the ruling is overturned. You can't take it to the range, farm, gun range. If you have it outside, there is always the weird chance that it may be seen and you be the test case. It will be pretty obvious to a nearby game warden that you are shooting "fully automatic" if he hears that rifle being fired with a bump stock.

Not to mention any meddling neighbors who will gladly pick up the phone and report that they are hearing automatic fire from your location.

BTW, Trump owns this and we need to stand up and say "No More" in such a manner that he can hear us loudly.

[K.Mooneyham]

Wow, are you sure all you folks actually live in Texas? Some of those comments almost makes me want to move across the Red and live with them danged Okies!

[K.Mooneyham]

Wow, are you sure all you folks actually live in Texas? Some of those comments almost makes me want to move across the Red and live with them danged Okies!

I hear they let people keep and bear handguns without a license.

I know, I cross the Red on a daily basis...haven't seen any shootouts yet, though.