By the way. I don't appreciate the personal attack.MONGOOSE wrote:The vehicle driver is liable for damages. It would be ashamed to have a Deputy like VOR who would enforce his own version of the law and not the actual law.
Rancher defending his bull, dies in deputy shootout
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God Bless America, and please hurry.
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Re: Rancher defending his bull, dies in deputy shootout
Why post something that absolutly doesn't say what you claim? That links to a law that say a rancher doesn't have a duty to keep animals off a roadway and no liability for any damages that occur from an accident with an animal in the road. It doesn't say that a driver is automatically and fully liable for an injured animal or that the rancher is allowed to use lethal force to "Defend" an animal.MONGOOSE wrote:http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/idstat ... 5-2118.htm
That's the law.....seems like the rancher had taken control quite well and the Deputies did not approve.
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Something else I just read was that both cops and the rancher reportedly fired their weapons and one cop had an injury related to a shot fired at him. Since this is the only time I have heard this I'm taking it with a grain of salt but it would change the scenario if true.
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Wasn't t there an article posted saying the rancher brought his weapon out to put down the bull when a deputy spun the rancher around?EEllis wrote:Why post something that absolutly doesn't say what you claim? That links to a law that say a rancher doesn't have a duty to keep animals off a roadway and no liability for any damages that occur from an accident with an animal in the road. It doesn't say that a driver is automatically and fully liable for an injured animal or that the rancher is allowed to use lethal force to "Defend" an animal.MONGOOSE wrote:http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/idstat ... 5-2118.htm
That's the law.....seems like the rancher had taken control quite well and the Deputies did not approve.
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That was a claim but that same report said they didn't hear the rancher fire. Right now the reports seem to conflict and the whole thing is far from clear.casp625 wrote: Wasn't t there an article posted saying the rancher brought his weapon out to put down the bull when a deputy spun the rancher around?
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http://libertyfight.com/2015/Yantis_dep ... named.html
Some open anti-cop bias here....but also a lot of interesting information and some claims about corruption and nepotism in the county.Deputies named in Council rancher’s shooting
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Btw: The two shooters in Council were “outed” today by the Sheriff. One was fired for brutality in McCall in ’13, out of court settlement. The other has had 6-7 different jobs in various ID LEO places over 15 years – wonder why he couldn’t keep a job??? The Sheriff knew all of the dirt before he hired them. Wonder why he was sweating so profusely!
http://libertyfight.com/2015/Yantis_dep ... named.html
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That 'blog' if you wanna call it that, is written like a bad conspiracy theorist article. I made it as far as the rant about him being a Ron Paul supporter is somehow relevant or the smoking gun. My face hurts (after facepalming that hard) from reading that .... nonsense(keeping it forum safe).VMI77 wrote:https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress. ... /#comments
Some open anti-cop bias here....but also a lot of interesting information and some claims about corruption and nepotism in the county.Deputies named in Council rancher’s shooting
From a local:
Btw: The two shooters in Council were “outed” today by the Sheriff. One was fired for brutality in McCall in ’13, out of court settlement. The other has had 6-7 different jobs in various ID LEO places over 15 years – wonder why he couldn’t keep a job??? The Sheriff knew all of the dirt before he hired them. Wonder why he was sweating so profusely!
http://libertyfight.com/2015/Yantis_dep ... named.html
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Interesting article. Case is still being scrutinized. http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/stat ... 24145.html
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VMI77 wrote:https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress. ... /#comments
Some open anti-cop bias here....but also a lot of interesting information and some claims about corruption and nepotism in the county.Deputies named in Council rancher’s shooting
From a local:
Btw: The two shooters in Council were “outed” today by the Sheriff. One was fired for brutality in McCall in ’13, out of court settlement. The other has had 6-7 different jobs in various ID LEO places over 15 years – wonder why he couldn’t keep a job??? The Sheriff knew all of the dirt before he hired them. Wonder why he was sweating so profusely!
http://libertyfight.com/2015/Yantis_dep ... named.html
The information on Brian Wood came out in an article I read about a week and a half ago. I didn't post it because the guy that sued (Tom Whaley) seems to be a flake from what I have found, albeit he (Whaley) did receive a settlement and Woods was gone soon thereafter. I didn't want to have it seen as LEO bashing. What I find interesting is Zollman's purposely keeping the identities under wraps. Even with no colored background on the two deputies it leads to all sorts of speculation as to why he didn't identify them right off the bat; at least to me.
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Re: Rancher defending his bull, dies in deputy shootout
Honestly, reading about Wood I kept thinking he sounds like a good guy....supports CC too. The interesting stuff was after that....Pariah3j wrote:That 'blog' if you wanna call it that, is written like a bad conspiracy theorist article. I made it as far as the rant about him being a Ron Paul supporter is somehow relevant or the smoking gun. My face hurts (after facepalming that hard) from reading that .... nonsense(keeping it forum safe).VMI77 wrote:https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress. ... /#comments
Some open anti-cop bias here....but also a lot of interesting information and some claims about corruption and nepotism in the county.Deputies named in Council rancher’s shooting
From a local:
Btw: The two shooters in Council were “outed” today by the Sheriff. One was fired for brutality in McCall in ’13, out of court settlement. The other has had 6-7 different jobs in various ID LEO places over 15 years – wonder why he couldn’t keep a job??? The Sheriff knew all of the dirt before he hired them. Wonder why he was sweating so profusely!
http://libertyfight.com/2015/Yantis_dep ... named.html
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Re: Rancher defending his bull, dies in deputy shootout
No charges filed against the deputies involved in this tragic case. Both deputies have left the Adams County SO, but not sure if they were terminated or left voluntarily. I think one did leave on his own. I was shocked to see they shot Mr. Yantis twelve times, apparently with rifles. I haven't found any actual evidence that Mr. Yantis ever fired his rifle other than the deputies said he did so. I would consider that a vital fact to state in any announcement on the decisions whether to prosecute or not. Not hard to check for discharged cartridge in the chamber. The deputies stated they were concerned about Mr. Yantis aiming his rifle (at the injured bull) in a manner that could endanger others, but had no problem discharging theirs at least 12 times and who knows how many more. I will reserve my opinion on the incident, but it will be interesting to see how the civil case is resolved. No video even though both deputies wore body cameras because one camera had a full memory and the other one was never turned on. Maybe departments should administer mandatory reprimands/punishments for SO's that don't check and use their equipment.
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Re: Rancher defending his bull, dies in deputy shootout
I don't find that website to be credible.VMI77 wrote:Honestly, reading about Wood I kept thinking he sounds like a good guy....supports CC too. The interesting stuff was after that....Pariah3j wrote:That 'blog' if you wanna call it that, is written like a bad conspiracy theorist article. I made it as far as the rant about him being a Ron Paul supporter is somehow relevant or the smoking gun. My face hurts (after facepalming that hard) from reading that .... nonsense(keeping it forum safe).VMI77 wrote:https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress. ... /#comments
Some open anti-cop bias here....but also a lot of interesting information and some claims about corruption and nepotism in the county.Deputies named in Council rancher’s shooting
From a local:
Btw: The two shooters in Council were “outed” today by the Sheriff. One was fired for brutality in McCall in ’13, out of court settlement. The other has had 6-7 different jobs in various ID LEO places over 15 years – wonder why he couldn’t keep a job??? The Sheriff knew all of the dirt before he hired them. Wonder why he was sweating so profusely!
http://libertyfight.com/2015/Yantis_dep ... named.html
At any rate, it is sad that a man died over an injured bull.
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