Let's BAN Guns
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Dianne Feinstein is one of the three California "Wicked Witches of the West" along with Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi...and I guess you could say they have a northern cousin if you throw in that Patty Murray woman from the State of Washington...all of them are big gun-control freaks.
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I wish it had been guns from the whole fast and furious ATF fiasco used in this tragedy.
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Maybe it'll turn out that one of those got sold to the gun store where what's-his-face bought his gun.JeepGuy79 wrote:I wish it had been guns from the whole fast and furious ATF fiasco used in this tragedy.
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Thanks. I wasn't sure about the legality of owning such items and was hoping to illustrate the futility of making them illegal. I agree with your assessment of the cylinders, however, there are simple ways (which I will also not go into) to make smoke grenades into tear gas-like munitions. That could have been the case here.JP171 wrote:yea ban guns, kneee jerk reaction of the ignorant. the only thing I have heard about the supposed "grenades" is that the perp threw 2 green canisters. first all smoke"grenades" and CS "grenades" do not fall under the gestapo's definition of a destructive device and therefore are completely legal to own without a tax stamp and a 200 dollar fee. so a legal to own item, hmm no reason to have a cow over that, second the color described by the news(yea I know) does not indicate a CS device it indicates white smoke, can be obtained at a large number of surplus stores while CS cannot as it is regulated. there is a color difference to white smoke and CS that I will NOT explain here and white or colored smoke cannisters are considered to be an irritant respiratory, mucosal and skin, thats why the cannisters say to use in a well ventillated area. so until they describe a CS cannister they were white smoke generators not Grenades of any sort
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I read somewhere that he had tossed m7a3 grenades into the room. Those are old and I have seen them for sale many different places including the internet.
He was also high on vicodin but I have not seen anyone say it should be banned.
He was also high on vicodin but I have not seen anyone say it should be banned.
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As more and more information continues to come out about the set up in the apartment the anti's are going to start losing steam. The what could have happened, if someone had entered unaware is possibly worse than the shooting.
No guns would have been involved in that.
No guns would have been involved in that.
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