Another example of what we are up against

[03Lightningrocks]

I wouldn't want to be the Republican candidate that refers to Obama as a "White Negro"!

I am sure it would be one of those great moments in history. And pretty much the end of the contest...LOL.

[apostate]

By the same standard, I think our President is officially a "White African"

You may be thinking of Louis Awerbuck.

[Toorop]

What gets me is the attention this incident has raised. I would like to know how many black children (under the age of 18) have been murdered by other blacks in the US. What makes this special? Has every black murder suspect that has shot or killed other black children been arrested? I'm sure all those other dead children's parents were as hurt as the Martins. I'm convinced that any excuse to play the race card will always be with us. How smart does someone have to be to understand that Jackson and Sharpton are only using this for their own agenda. Are people that dumb?

Do we have white Hispanics, red Hispanics, yellow Hispanics? Maybe I have missed something, is he half Hispanic and half white?

Seems to me that I would be investigating who Martin purchased marijuana from, how much has he purchased, how did he get the money and if his DNA matched any found at any of the burglarized homes. Was he stealing things to get the money for marijuana?

Actually hispanics are considered white and not black according to the FBI. So initial reports saying Zimmerman is white were correct. He is white and latino.

I for one hope that Zimmerman gets charged. He is a threat to others and should not be armed or walking the streets. That is just my view based on the evidence that has been revealed to us so far. May Zimmerman burn in hell and may Trayvon RIP.

What does Trayvon, allegedly having marijuana, have to do with the incident? And why do you think he was burglarizing homes?

[03Lightningrocks]

Interesting... So Hispanics get called whites? I know some Hispanics that might take offense to that designation. I was not aware of this pearl of wisdom. You have a link to something that tells me the FBI calls all Hispanics white instead of Hispanic. This could get confusing when a wanted status is put out. The say they are looking for a white dude 5'4" named Jesus Himinez ? I am not so sure this is accurate information.

Not sure what to say about your assessment on poor innocent Trayvon. He did play a roll in his own demise. He thought he could take the dude out with a ground and pound... He did not calculate for the possibility of an equalizer. The weaker species parishes in all of the animal kingdom. Maybe Zimmerman screwed up following poor innocent little Trayvon around, but once Trayvon decided to bash his brains out... He became fair game. Personally... I'm trayvon and decide to circle back on my tracker, I pull my weapon and order him on the ground... I am not sure I wouldn't just shoot him... Pretty scary stuff being stalked around at night.... Any move other than the ground... He is going to get shot. Then again, I probably would not approach my tracker either. I would observe and if he tried to leave... I would allow him to take his leave. This is where poor innocent Trayvon screwed up... He should have just stayed hidden and let Zimmerman leave. But that is not easy for a thug to do. He had his manhood to prove and all.

Before anyone quotes legal technicalities at me... In a life and death struggle... I am not thinking about legal statutes. I am trying to live. Keep this in mind before any of you batmans decide to follow a guy around the hood. They may think like me and kill you.

Meanwhile... Back to our regularly scheduled program.

[JP171]

What gets me is the attention this incident has raised. I would like to know how many black children (under the age of 18) have been murdered by other blacks in the US. What makes this special? Has every black murder suspect that has shot or killed other black children been arrested? I'm sure all those other dead children's parents were as hurt as the Martins. I'm convinced that any excuse to play the race card will always be with us. How smart does someone have to be to understand that Jackson and Sharpton are only using this for their own agenda. Are people that dumb?

Do we have white Hispanics, red Hispanics, yellow Hispanics? Maybe I have missed something, is he half Hispanic and half white?

Seems to me that I would be investigating who Martin purchased marijuana from, how much has he purchased, how did he get the money and if his DNA matched any found at any of the burglarized homes. Was he stealing things to get the money for marijuana?

Hispanic is not a race it is an ethnicicty, hispanic people come in the normal flavors such as white black yellow.

[03Lightningrocks]

That is all interesting for sure. Like the saying goes, we are never too old to learn. I will state for the record that if the description for a bad guy to look out for was 5'4" white guy... I would not think to look at a Hispanic Asa possible suspect.

[Toorop]

That is all interesting for sure. Like the saying goes, we are never too old to learn. I will state for the record that if the description for a bad guy to look out for was 5'4" white guy... I would not think to look at a Hispanic Asa possible suspect.

No need to apologize. I am glad you learned something.

But what does marijuana have to with the Trayvon case, and how would George Zimmerman even know about Trayvon supposedly having marijuana?

[03Lightningrocks]

That is all interesting for sure. Like the saying goes, we are never too old to learn. I will state for the record that if the description for a bad guy to look out for was 5'4" white guy... I would not think to look at a Hispanic Asa possible suspect.

No need to apologize. I am glad you learned something.

But what does marijuana have to with the Trayvon case, and how would George Zimmerman even know about Trayvon supposedly having marijuana?

I was not apologizing. I asked a question and got an answer... Pretty straight forward. Wish I had an answer for your question... But I don't. Maybe someone else can help you out.

I will warn you though... If you are asking rhetorically, just to start up another emotional debate, this has all been beat to death already. Maybe you should spend a few minutes reading the more than plenty of threads that pounded this issue to oblivion. I'm pretty sure nobody here said anything about trayvon getting whacked out over marijuana. He was killed because the dude he was trying to kill had a gun and used it on him.

I have already given my opinion in more than one thread on this issue... And it sure has nothing to do with getting stoned.

[Toorop]

That is all interesting for sure. Like the saying goes, we are never too old to learn. I will state for the record that if the description for a bad guy to look out for was 5'4" white guy... I would not think to look at a Hispanic Asa possible suspect.

No need to apologize. I am glad you learned something.

But what does marijuana have to with the Trayvon case, and how would George Zimmerman even know about Trayvon supposedly having marijuana?

I was not apologizing. I asked a question and got an answer... Pretty straight forward. Wish I had an answer for your question... But I don't. Maybe someone else can help you out.

I will warn you though... If you are asking rhetorically, just to start up another emotional debate, this has all been beat to death already. Maybe you should spend a few minutes reading the more than plenty of threads that pounded this issue to oblivion. I'm pretty sure nobody here said anything about trayvon getting whacked out over marijuana. He was killed because the dude he was trying to kill had a gun and used it on him.

I have already given my opinion in more than one thread on this issue... And it sure has nothing to do with getting stoned.

You asked a question without researching, and yet you suggest maybe I should spend a few minutes reading and researching, perhaps you should have done the same?
I apparently confused with the other poster. I will man up and apologize.

The other poster brought up marijuana. It has also been asserted he was breaking into homes, though there is no basis for this. Trayvon was said to have burglary tools when he got caught in school back in November, but he just had a screwdriver. I don't think that is a burglary tool, does anyone else? The other poster mentioned that he was possibly breaking into homes to feed a marijuana habit.

[03Lightningrocks]

No apology needed. Just making sure you know where I am coming from. I asked a simple question, got my answer... And that was good enough for me.

Lol... I just saw the comment about marijuana and have to admit to not giving it much attention. For me, this whole situation is the perfect example of why a civilian should not act as a police officer. Armed or not, we should simply call the cops and let them handle it. When there is no apparent danger to anyone by a person we might think is suspicious looking, we should not engage that person. Zimmerman should not have gotten out of that car to pursue trayvon... But trayvon should not have engaged Zimmerman either. Like I said... The perfect example of what can happen when joe citizen takes it upon themselves to act as law enforcement. I was hesitant to say this for the umpteenth time... But figured one more wouldn't hurt... .

[03Lightningrocks]

By the way... This thread was originally started by me to point out that the Odumbell group are working very hard to get financial support for his campaign. I was trying to point out that anyone who wanted to help insure we don't face four more years of Odumbell, should send support to the republican campaign.

It just morphed into another Trayvon thread. LOL... That happens a lot on Internet forums. I just ride the waves.

[Texbow]

That is all interesting for sure. Like the saying goes, we are never too old to learn. I will state for the record that if the description for a bad guy to look out for was 5'4" white guy... I would not think to look at a Hispanic Asa possible suspect.

No need to apologize. I am glad you learned something.

But what does marijuana have to with the Trayvon case, and how would George Zimmerman even know about Trayvon supposedly having marijuana?

My understanding is that the basis for the call made by GZ was that he looked suspicious and that homes had been burglarized in that area recently. I think most homes are burglarized to steal things that can be sold in many cases to purchase drugs. He was suspended from school as a result of traces of marijuana in his backpack. Could he have been breaking into homes in order to get money to purchase the drugs? I assume that if he had marijuana he had to purchase it. I guess someone could have given it to him.

Find out who he purchased the drugs from, find out how much he had purchased in recent times to determine how much cash he had to have had in order to make those purchases and then find out how he got the cash. If he thought he was busted and was worried about being reported it could provide a motive for him attacking GZ. Just a thought.

[Heartland Patriot]

No apology needed. Just making sure you know where I am coming from. I asked a simple question, got my answer... And that was good enough for me.

Lol... I just saw the comment about marijuana and have to admit to not giving it much attention. For me, this whole situation is the perfect example of why a civilian should not act as a police officer. Armed or not, we should simply call the cops and let them handle it. When there is no apparent danger to anyone by a person we might think is suspicious looking, we should not engage that person. Zimmerman should not have gotten out of that car to pursue trayvon... But trayvon should not have engaged Zimmerman either. Like I said... The perfect example of what can happen when joe citizen takes it upon themselves to act as law enforcement. I was hesitant to say this for the umpteenth time... But figured one more wouldn't hurt... .

I'll second your statement with one have made before also...I am not an LEO, I am not trained to do what they do...my CHL is for the DEFENSE of myself, my loved ones/close friends, and other persons as a situation may dictate under very narrow circumstances...otherwise, I will contact law enforcement and let them do the jobs they are trained to do and paid to do.

And I will stick to fixing aircraft which is what I am trained to do.