What Have I lost?

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Re: What Have I lost?

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Liberty wrote:We had a Supreme court decision demanding that we have the RKBA .. They were unanimous in the decision that it is indeed a collective right. During most of our lives there wasn't a clear statement from our Supreme court.
I'm sure you meant that they ruled it was an individual right, correct? ;-) :tiphat:
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mbw wrote:GaryAdrian-

Nice post. We must have grown up in the same town at the same time.
Yep, I'm sure of it. It's called "Anytown USA"
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Liberty wrote:It is legal to carry guns in a gunrack it is only fear of the bad guys that restrict us from doing so. I see things in the context of my life ime because it is the only reference that I fully understand. What I have seen is that early in my life we lost a lot of rights for a long time. but that in the last 15years we have started too swing the pendulum. We are gaining rights and losing very seldom.

When I moved to Texas in the 80s I lost my right to carry a hand on me I could carry one in my car but only under some very unclear conditions. Today the CHL program gives me the means to pack 24/7, We are allowed to carry in our cars if we meet a few simple condition.

We had an Assault weapons ban. it is gone. Attempts to restore another one at this time is laughable. Seems like even some Democrats understand the Right to Keep and Bear Arms lately. I remember a time not to long ago when gun control was a cause they could unite under.

We are real close to allowing students the abilty to go armed in our schools , Its been a very long time since we have been able to do this.

We had a Supreme court decision demanding that we have the RKBA .. They were unanimous in the decision that it is indeed a collective right. During most of our lives there wasn't a clear statement from our Supreme court.

We never lost the legal right to carry long guns in the open, I see it every year around deer season here in the big city. For the most part folks with pickup trucks lost interest in displaying their guns for the Gangbangers to admire during the rest of the year. Today most folks don't leave their fishing rods out for display either and that is legal too.

We now have the right to carry in National Parks for the first time in over 30 years.

We have a very leftist Speaker of the house showing restraint because of her respect (or fear) of the NRA.


I know a lot of folks get some pleasure at seeing a half empty glass, I know that we have a ways to go before we actually achieve a full RKBA ( shucks we got folks here who aren't crazy about the idea) I know we have the leftist in charge of things, but I think we need to understand how far we have come to understand exactly where we are so that we know where we need to go. If I look back 20 years from today, I see almost nothing but progress in our march forward with the concept of the RKBA . We still need to move forward. There are still threats to our rights that need to be fought off and new ones will be presented too us in the future but for time being we just aren't looking all that bad.
Wow, I hadn't looked at things from such an optimistic viewpoint. Good post.
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barres wrote:
Liberty wrote:We had a Supreme court decision demanding that we have the RKBA .. They were unanimous in the decision that it is indeed a collective right. During most of our lives there wasn't a clear statement from our Supreme court.
I'm sure you meant that they ruled it was an individual right, correct? ;-) :tiphat:
It was not a unanimous decision. It was a 5-4 decision, and the other 4 specifically said that it was not an individual right. Either way, I agree with the rest of your post, but I see an AWB coming back. Probably not until after the 2010 or 2012 election, but it's coming.

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OK, Were are the Leagle eagles out there?

What law stops me from walking throught downdown Dallas with a rifle on my shoulder and a pistol strapped to my hip?
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PArrow wrote:OK, Were are the Leagle eagles out there?

What law stops me from walking throught downdown Dallas with a rifle on my shoulder and a pistol strapped to my hip?
PC46.02 makes it illegal to carry a handgun on or about your person, unless you are on property you own or control or unless you are in a vehicle you own or control (and meet a few other criteria). PC46.15 makes PC46.02 not applicable to a holder of a CHL who is carrying concealed. You did not state whether or not the pistol strapped to your hip was carried openly or concealed or whether or not you have a CHL. There is no law against walking through downtown Dallas with a rifle on your shoulder, though it will draw some extra attention.

ETA: And no law stops anyone from doing anything. Respect for the law and for other people and fear of the repercussions of breaking the law are what stops most people from doing things that the law proscribes.
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Re: What Have I lost?

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Kerbouchard wrote:
barres wrote:
Liberty wrote:We had a Supreme court decision demanding that we have the RKBA .. They were unanimous in the decision that it is indeed a collective right. During most of our lives there wasn't a clear statement from our Supreme court.
I'm sure you meant that they ruled it was an individual right, correct? ;-) :tiphat:
It was not a unanimous decision. It was a 5-4 decision, and the other 4 specifically said that it was not an individual right. Either way, I agree with the rest of your post, but I see an AWB coming back. Probably not until after the 2010 or 2012 election, but it's coming.
I'm sorry for the confusion of course it was an individul right . but even dissenting opinion conceded also that it was an individual right. I thought that in itself was rather remarkable.
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