Moms Demand Action Seeks to Change 30.06 Signage Requirement

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HOUSTON, TX – Ever see the signs – “No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service!’? simple enough to get the point across; but in Texas if you want to put up a sign that says “No guns!” it isn’t so simple.

“It has to be exactly this sign. Which is eye catching for all the wrong reasons. It has to have exactly these words, be exactly this size of lettering it has to fit exactly these requirements,” said Alexandra Chasse with Moms Demand Action, owner of the 3 foot by 4 foot sign.

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An earlier story/article on the matter:

http://www.click2houston.com/news/group ... s/26083696" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Bladed wrote:
HOUSTON, TX – Ever see the signs – “No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service!’? simple enough to get the point across; but in Texas if you want to put up a sign that says “No guns!” it isn’t so simple.

“It has to be exactly this sign. Which is eye catching for all the wrong reasons. It has to have exactly these words, be exactly this size of lettering it has to fit exactly these requirements,” said Alexandra Chasse with Moms Demand Action, owner of the 3 foot by 4 foot sign.

Read more: http://newsfixnow.com/2014/05/20/moms-d ... z32YJBQdlJ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Let them try, I am all for them wasting time and political capital.
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Here's the sign that should be posted :evil2: "rlol"


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They won't be successful in repealing TPC §30.06, but they will likely be able to find someone to file such a bill. Then we'll have to expend political capital to defeat it.
Very few elected officials were here in the 1995 - 1997 time frame and understand why TPC §30.06 was created and the purpose for its express provisions. That will make it more difficult to kill a bill that attempts to repeal or amend §30.06's critical protection for CHLs.

It's most unfortunate that recent events have brought the TPC §30.06 sign requirement to the forefront. Previously, there was no push to repeal TPC §30.06 and no organizations calling for a change. Collateral damage is just as much of a risk in the political arena as it is on the battlefield.

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Charles L. Cotton wrote:They won't be successful in repealing TPC §30.06, but they will likely be able to find someone to file such a bill. Then we'll have to expend political capital to defeat it.
Very few elected officials were here in the 1995 - 1997 time frame and understand why TPC §30.06 was created and the purpose for its express provisions. That will make it more difficult to kill a bill that attempts to repeal or amend §30.06's critical protection for CHLs.

It's most unfortunate that recent events have brought the TPC §30.06 sign requirement to the forefront. Previously, there was no push to repeal TPC §30.06 and no organizations calling for a change. Collateral damage is just as much of a risk in the political arena as it is on the battlefield.

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Thank you to the in your face OC demonstrators. Now real progress on all 2nd Amendment legislation could suffer as effort is expended and political capital is called in to stave off a threat where none previously existed. I am philosophically in agreement with the right to OC, but due to the poor tactics employed by these misinformed (I hope that is all it is) demonstrators, I for one won't be supporting any OC efforts until they quit this nonsense. 100% of my calls, letters, etc., will be on other issues that are far more likely to succeed: campus carry, reduction in restricted areas, etc. And protecting the progress made in the past.
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Charles L. Cotton wrote:It's most unfortunate that recent events have brought the TPC §30.06 sign requirement to the forefront. Previously, there was no push to repeal TPC §30.06 and no organizations calling for a change. Collateral damage is just as much of a risk in the political arena as it is on the battlefield.

Chas.
Charles is absolutely right. Supposedly pro-gun people, acting in all the wrong ways for all the right reasons, are shooting the gun-rights movement in the foot.
  1. Outraged CHLs informing business owners that their signs are invalid and carrying out letter campaigns full of "I'll show you" rhetoric. When, oh WHEN will people learn to shut the heck up, stuff their outrage, and just carry past those invalid signs as if they didn't exist? Does anyone think that the woman in the OP's article would be aware of the Big Ugly Sign requirements if some well-meaning idiot with a CHL hadn't taken a minute to educate somebody? Here's a CLUE people.....BUY it....Gun-grabbers do opposition research. Texas3006.com flew under the radar for years until oppo research twigged gun-grabbers to the fact that CHLs were taking advantage of improper signs. This push to "simplify" signage requirements is a direct product of CHLs shooting their mouths off.
  2. Long gun OC demonstrations scaring the crap out of fence-sitters while trying to convince them to support open carry of handguns. IT DOES NOT MATTER that we know that our scary black rifles are not true assault rifles, to the uninformed, our rifles look exactly like the ones they see soldiers and marines carrying in Afghanistan on the news nearly every day. IT DOES NOT MATTER that it is unloaded and slung over my shoulder. To them, it is a scary black rifle, and they don't understand why I would want to carry one around. To the uninitiated, my AR15 IS and assault rifle, no matter how wrong they might be about it, and their noses were not being rubbed in FEAR they feel about scary black rifles until protesters started open carrying them.
PEOPLE! The "victims" on the receiving end of these things VOTE!!!!!! They WILL pressure their representatives to make it stop, by:
  1. Urging their representatives to simplify signage requirements, making it easier to keep ALL gun carriers out of their businesses.
  2. Urging their representatives to pass laws illegalizing the (currently legal) open carry of long guns, and to vote against handgun open carry when it comes up for a vote.
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Hopefully this is a wakeup call for the people who thought Morons Demand Attention were reacting to open carry protests. Their detailed knowledge of 30.06 and attack on same revealed the truth. A sign to ban open carry (except police, military, and security guards) is simple.

So simple even a Moron can do it. :mrgreen:

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The Annoyed Man wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:It's most unfortunate that recent events have brought the TPC §30.06 sign requirement to the forefront. Previously, there was no push to repeal TPC §30.06 and no organizations calling for a change. Collateral damage is just as much of a risk in the political arena as it is on the battlefield.

Chas.
Charles is absolutely right. Supposedly pro-gun people, acting in all the wrong ways for all the right reasons, are shooting the gun-rights movement in the foot.
  1. Outraged CHLs informing business owners that their signs are invalid and carrying out letter campaigns full of "I'll show you" rhetoric. When, oh WHEN will people learn to shut the heck up, stuff their outrage, and just carry past those invalid signs as if they didn't exist? Does anyone think that the woman in the OP's article would be aware of the Big Ugly Sign requirements if some well-meaning idiot with a CHL hadn't taken a minute to educate somebody? Here's a CLUE people.....BUY it....Gun-grabbers do opposition research. Texas3006.com flew under the radar for years until oppo research twigged gun-grabbers to the fact that CHLs were taking advantage of improper signs. This push to "simplify" signage requirements is a direct product of CHLs shooting their mouths off.
  2. Long gun OC demonstrations scaring the crap out of fence-sitters and those that previously never gave it a thought while trying to convince them to support open carry of handguns. IT DOES NOT MATTER that we know that our scary black rifles are not true assault rifles, to the uninformed, our rifles look exactly like the ones they see soldiers and marines carrying in Afghanistan on the news nearly every day. IT DOES NOT MATTER that it is unloaded and slung over my shoulder. To them, it is a scary black rifle, and they don't understand why I would want to carry one around. To the uninitiated, my AR15 IS and assault rifle, no matter how wrong they might be about it, and their noses were not being rubbed in FEAR they feel about scary black rifles until protesters started open carrying them.
PEOPLE! The "victims" on the receiving end of these things VOTE!!!!!! They WILL pressure their representatives to make it stop, by:
  1. Urging their representatives to simplify signage requirements, making it easier to keep ALL gun carriers out of their businesses.
  2. Urging their representatives to pass laws illegalizing the (currently legal) open carry of long guns, and to vote against handgun open carry when it comes up for a vote.
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Instant Karma's gonna get you. Gonna knock you right on the head.

But I have to give them props for the photo on their main webpage. http://thepit-durham.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Now that the actions of a few have brought the 30.06 sign to the forefront how many businesses will begin to post more signs.
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This is not going to end well for gun owners. Businesses that didn't post a discreet gunbuster sign to ban visible guns will read the newspaper article and post large IYF signs that only bans hidden guns. Mark my words, by the time Memorial Day weekend is over, half the restaurants in Texas will have 30.06 signs. :banghead:
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carlson1 wrote:Now that the actions of a few have brought the 30.06 sign to the forefront how many businesses will begin to post more signs.
You're so right, and this is stupid, Stupid, STUPID! What is WRONG with these people that they can't wake up and get a clue?
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