93 year old Texas woman killed by police in her home

As the name indicates, this is the place for gun-related political discussions. It is not open to other political topics.

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton

User avatar

gigag04
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 5474
Joined: Wed May 04, 2005 7:47 pm
Location: Houston

Re: 93 year old Texas woman killed by police in her home

#31

Post by gigag04 »

I worked with Stem before he went to Hearne. Interested to see how this ends up since it sounds like she fired first.
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison
User avatar

puma guy
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 5
Posts: 7854
Joined: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:23 pm
Location: Near San Jacinto

Re: 93 year old Texas woman killed by police in her home

#32

Post by puma guy »

gigag04 wrote:I worked with Stem before he went to Hearne. Interested to see how this ends up since it sounds like she fired first.
Gig,
Since he has worked at 3 different departments in 5-6 years (and I don't mean to tarnish him in any way) I have to ask if he left good stead? I know some guys just have more things occur on duty than others through no fault of their own. I also understand if you decline to answer.
KAHR PM40/Hoffner IWB and S&W Mod 60/ Galco IWB
NRA Endowment Member, TSRA Life Member,100 Club Life Member,TFC Member
My Faith, My Gun and My Constitution: I cling to all three!
User avatar

SewTexas
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 6
Posts: 3509
Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:52 pm
Location: Alvin
Contact:

Re: 93 year old Texas woman killed by police in her home

#33

Post by SewTexas »

mamabearCali wrote:Yeah...if she was shooting at people then it was 99% justified. No matter how sad and tragic, what could the officer do?


The people to blame here....the 93 year old woman, sorry but she if she started the shooting she bears primary responsibility. Secondarily I put some responsibility on the family. There are ways to handle things. You gotta know your relatives. If they are going to go nuts, do not provoke them. Be smart. Be sly.

I'm not sure how old the nephew is, but he may not have been the right one to have been put in the situation to take Granny to DPS, esp if the other relatives knew she wasn't going to get to keep her license, and they should have suspected. He may not have been prepared to deal with her losing her license. I do blame them for her having dementia and a gun though, no excuse for that, unless they didn't know, and I sort of find that hard to believe if she got to it that quickly.
~Tracy
Gun control is what you talk about when you don't want to talk about the truth ~ Colion Noir

talltex
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 782
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:40 pm
Location: Waco area

Re: 93 year old Texas woman killed by police in her home

#34

Post by talltex »

SewTexas wrote:I'm not sure how old the nephew is, but he may not have been the right one to have been put in the situation to take Granny to DPS, esp if the other relatives knew she wasn't going to get to keep her license, and they should have suspected. He may not have been prepared to deal with her losing her license. I do blame them for her having dementia and a gun though, no excuse for that, unless they didn't know, and I sort of find that hard to believe if she got to it that quickly.
Once more...none of the news reports that I've seen, have said anything about her having Dementia. That was just a possible explanation for her behavior mentioned on this forum earlier.
"I looked out under the sun and saw that the race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong" Ecclesiastes 9:11

"The race may not always go to the swift or the battle to the strong, but that's the way the smart money bets" Damon Runyon
User avatar

gigag04
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 5474
Joined: Wed May 04, 2005 7:47 pm
Location: Houston

Re: 93 year old Texas woman killed by police in her home

#35

Post by gigag04 »

puma guy wrote:
gigag04 wrote:I worked with Stem before he went to Hearne. Interested to see how this ends up since it sounds like she fired first.
Gig,
Since he has worked at 3 different departments in 5-6 years (and I don't mean to tarnish him in any way) I have to ask if he left good stead? I know some guys just have more things occur on duty than others through no fault of their own. I also understand if you decline to answer.
We can discuss over a beer or coffee sometime. I don't feel right putting it out there on the internet.
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

Cjwglock19
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 233
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:58 am
Location: Central texas

Re: 93 year old Texas woman killed by police in her home

#36

Post by Cjwglock19 »

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Hear ... vice=phone" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This link should take you to the kwtx article. The witness, who made the call to 911 and was related says she shot twice before the officer fired. Sounds like his prior shooting was quite justified as well.

We can all speculate as to what else could have been done or tried or say she was 96...96 or 26 those bullets fly the same. The city firing him doesn't seem justified without investigation...but the race card has been pulled and they are appeasing the people.

Just my opinion...
"You can say 'stop' or 'alto' or use any other word you think will work but I've found that a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is pretty much the universal language."

- Clint Smith
User avatar

puma guy
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 5
Posts: 7854
Joined: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:23 pm
Location: Near San Jacinto

Re: 93 year old Texas woman killed by police in her home

#37

Post by puma guy »

gigag04 wrote:
puma guy wrote:
gigag04 wrote:I worked with Stem before he went to Hearne. Interested to see how this ends up since it sounds like she fired first.
Gig,
Since he has worked at 3 different departments in 5-6 years (and I don't mean to tarnish him in any way) I have to ask if he left good stead? I know some guys just have more things occur on duty than others through no fault of their own. I also understand if you decline to answer.
We can discuss over a beer or coffee sometime. I don't feel right putting it out there on the internet.
K
KAHR PM40/Hoffner IWB and S&W Mod 60/ Galco IWB
NRA Endowment Member, TSRA Life Member,100 Club Life Member,TFC Member
My Faith, My Gun and My Constitution: I cling to all three!
User avatar

Charles L. Cotton
Site Admin
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 17787
Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:31 pm
Location: Friendswood, TX
Contact:

Re: 93 year old Texas woman killed by police in her home

#38

Post by Charles L. Cotton »

philip964 wrote:City council fired the police officer today to cheering crowds. I'm no lawyer, but when the grand jury no bills him, does he have a good cause of action?
Not only was it grossly unfair to the officer to fire him before the investigation by the Texas Rangers was complete, it was a tactically foolish move in terms of potential civil liability for the city. There will be no good answer from the Mayor when plaintiffs' counsel asks, "you fired the officer because you thought he had no justification to shoot the old lady, right?"

Chas.
User avatar

SewTexas
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 6
Posts: 3509
Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:52 pm
Location: Alvin
Contact:

Re: 93 year old Texas woman killed by police in her home

#39

Post by SewTexas »

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
philip964 wrote:City council fired the police officer today to cheering crowds. I'm no lawyer, but when the grand jury no bills him, does he have a good cause of action?
Not only was it grossly unfair to the officer to fire him before the investigation by the Texas Rangers was complete, it was a tactically foolish move in terms of potential civil liability for the city. There will be no good answer from the Mayor when plaintiffs' counsel asks, "you fired the officer because you thought he had no justification to shoot the old lady, right?"

Chas.
yep, basically it sounds like the mayor, and then the city council was acting as judge and jury.
~Tracy
Gun control is what you talk about when you don't want to talk about the truth ~ Colion Noir
Post Reply

Return to “Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues”