Obama requests $1.1B for gun control
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Obama requests $1.1B for gun control
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Re: Obama requests $1.1B for gun control
I honestly can't even read the article without several logical alarms going off in my head. In fact, I think I have a headache.
It's not even 14 sentences...
It's not even 14 sentences...
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Re: Obama requests $1.1B for gun control
Maybe he can borrow it from Bloomberg and Soros.
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Re: Obama requests $1.1B for gun control
Congress should tell him no.
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I'm good with 2 items...
Too bad.. and tellingly... they're the last 2 on the list.
Too bad.. and tellingly... they're the last 2 on the list.
8. Make our schools safer with new resource officers and counselors, better emergency response plans, and more nurturing school climates.
9. Ensure quality coverage of mental health treatment, particularly for young people.
I am not a lawyer. This is NOT legal advice.!
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Re: Obama requests $1.1B for gun control
Since Congress has the power of the purse, it seems likely that Barack'sbaldeagle wrote:Congress should tell him no.
proposals will go nowhere. More speeches/no action, as usual.
There's nothing to see here - move along please.
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Re: Obama requests $1.1B for gun control
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:Since Congress has the power of the purse, it seems likely that Barack'sbaldeagle wrote:Congress should tell him no.
proposals will go nowhere. More speeches/no action, as usual.
There's nothing to see here - move along please.
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Re: Obama requests $1.1B for gun control
I wonder when-and-how it happened that the morons er I mean People in Washington came to believe that you can solve any problem by throwing money at it.
And if I had a nickel for every "commission" that Washington funded, with recommendations completely ignored, I'd be the richest man on Earth.
And if I had a nickel for every "commission" that Washington funded, with recommendations completely ignored, I'd be the richest man on Earth.
Re: Obama requests $1.1B for gun control
#9 - This will be the next frontier used to grab away people's natural rights. Being that just about everyone can be DX with something from the DSM there will be no stopping the tyrrany.
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Re: Obama requests $1.1B for gun control
1 - Won't accomplish a thing except give the law abiding an extra hoop to jump through.
2.- Will only work if reporting improves, which, if reporting improves, will negate the need for it.
3.- Already proven, by a ten year "experiment," to have no measurable effect.
4.- Accomplishes nothing, and are the police going to turn in their >10 round magazines?
5.- As if this is a problem.
6.- They don't use the ones they have, and what is "Gun Crime" anyway, but crime?
7.- What "freeze?"
8.- Make our schools safer by eliminating target rich "Gun Free Zones" which encourage criminals and the mentally ill to take advantage of the fact that there will not be any return fire when they commit the crime that is already illegal.
9.- Which begs the question, Why are we not already doing this?
2.- Will only work if reporting improves, which, if reporting improves, will negate the need for it.
3.- Already proven, by a ten year "experiment," to have no measurable effect.
4.- Accomplishes nothing, and are the police going to turn in their >10 round magazines?
5.- As if this is a problem.
6.- They don't use the ones they have, and what is "Gun Crime" anyway, but crime?
7.- What "freeze?"
8.- Make our schools safer by eliminating target rich "Gun Free Zones" which encourage criminals and the mentally ill to take advantage of the fact that there will not be any return fire when they commit the crime that is already illegal.
9.- Which begs the question, Why are we not already doing this?
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Re: Obama requests $1.1B for gun control
I might have said the same about "immigration reform". Now, I'm not so sure. Never underestimate the stupidity in Washington and especially of some of the GOP. Faced with a "its for the children" hate campaign, they could fold like a house of cards. It that weren't true, we would not be where we are today on so many other issues. The GOP that allowed the housing mess to balloon to the breaking point is as responsible for that debacle as the Dems.jmra wrote:surprise_i'm_armed wrote:Since Congress has the power of the purse, it seems likely that Barack'sbaldeagle wrote:Congress should tell him no.
proposals will go nowhere. More speeches/no action, as usual.
There's nothing to see here - move along please.
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Re: Obama requests $1.1B for gun control
I'm not.RoyGBiv wrote:I'm good with 2 items...
Too bad.. and tellingly... they're the last 2 on the list.
8. Make our schools safer with new resource officers and counselors, better emergency response plans, and more nurturing school climates.
9. Ensure quality coverage of mental health treatment, particularly for young people.
I see #8 as another excuse to poke the camel nose of social workers with agendas even further into children's and parents' home lives. I'm especially suspicious of any "counselors" they might hire, as well as how they plan to make school "more nurturing" through any means other than staying away. Gov't involvement is -never- "nurturing."
And #9 sounds like yet another way to get our kids on either some "counseling" program run by meddlesome idiots, or doping them to the gills with psychotropic drugs. We already have kids drugged up with Adderol all over; the stronger "mood balancing" drugs not only wreak havoc on the developing biochemistry of the childhood and teenage brain, they don't allow the kids the chance to learn how to control themselves and their own emotions. I know every teenager I've ever met would certainly qualify as "bipolar," at least until they finished puberty and the random, wild mood swings that produces, and yet we turned out just fine.
What we actually need are adults willing to teach not just classroom material, but responsibility, discipline, and self-control, three things sadly missing from much of today's youth and teaching culture, and we need parents who will stand up to administrators who refuse to allow this.
Bring back discipline. Bring back punishment. Let the kids fight it out so long as there's no injuries, and then come down like a ton of bricks on the instigator, not the victor, and certainly not on the victim, even if he won. Bring back the nuns with rulers if you have to. Oh, and kick the "Department of Education" completely out of the schools, even if you lose federal funding.
I grew up in a bit of "transition" between discipline in schools and not, and I certainly saw a huge difference in how those around me acted.
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Re: Obama requests $1.1B for gun control
JSThane wrote:I'm not.RoyGBiv wrote:I'm good with 2 items...
Too bad.. and tellingly... they're the last 2 on the list.
8. Make our schools safer with new resource officers and counselors, better emergency response plans, and more nurturing school climates.
9. Ensure quality coverage of mental health treatment, particularly for young people.
I see #8 as another excuse to poke the camel nose of social workers with agendas even further into children's and parents' home lives. I'm especially suspicious of any "counselors" they might hire, as well as how they plan to make school "more nurturing" through any means other than staying away. Gov't involvement is -never- "nurturing."
And #9 sounds like yet another way to get our kids on either some "counseling" program run by meddlesome idiots, or doping them to the gills with psychotropic drugs. We already have kids drugged up with Adderol all over; the stronger "mood balancing" drugs not only wreak havoc on the developing biochemistry of the childhood and teenage brain, they don't allow the kids the chance to learn how to control themselves and their own emotions. I know every teenager I've ever met would certainly qualify as "bipolar," at least until they finished puberty and the random, wild mood swings that produces, and yet we turned out just fine.
What we actually need are adults willing to teach not just classroom material, but responsibility, discipline, and self-control, three things sadly missing from much of today's youth and teaching culture, and we need parents who will stand up to administrators who refuse to allow this.
Bring back discipline. Bring back punishment. Let the kids fight it out so long as there's no injuries, and then come down like a ton of bricks on the instigator, not the victor, and certainly not on the victim, even if he won. Bring back the nuns with rulers if you have to. Oh, and kick the "Department of Education" completely out of the schools, even if you lose federal funding.
I grew up in a bit of "transition" between discipline in schools and not, and I certainly saw a huge difference in how those around me acted.
I like this!
It's not gun control that we need, it's soul control!