According to friends in NY and NYSR&PA, this guy tries to help inner city kids merely for the prestige and photo ops, which makes him even more of a hypocrite than a gun control advocate who carries a gun.rotor wrote:I am torn both ways on this one. The guy appears to be a good guy with trying to help inner city kids and for this I like him. On the other hand he is trying to take away my constitutional right to carry and protect myself and he understands the need to carry for protection as he does it for himself. Wish it would have happened to an anti-gun advocate that wasn't a do gooder too.
Actually I don't follow NRA to the letter, as a member I try to get them to follow me.cb1000rider wrote:This is one of those I'm not sure he's the enemy deals...
Yes, he supported laws that made it illegal to carry firearms into public schools. I don't think that makes him the devil. Do you have to follow the NRA to the letter or be a radical 2nd amendment person, otherwise you're a "gun control advocate" ? Agree with it or not, it's an issue with a lot of debate associated with it and I'm not going to get polarized over it that when there are "big picture" issues to consider.
He's also been involved with anti-gang organizations and supports youth programs. He clearly has a concealed license and carries a gun. How does that give with gun control advocate?
Apparently he forgot he was carrying.. That ever happen to anyone here?
Doing more digging, it appears that other "gun control" he's commented on was touched off by that fact that gang kids are buying firearms via private transactions. Again, I can understand his perspective if he works with gangs and kids. Don't agree with it, but understand it.
What if someone is anti open-carry? Are they gun control advocates too?
Apparently the entire situation was triggered by an "anonymous tip"... Smells fishy to me. I wonder what side called that tip in? I wonder how many of us could get caught in a similar net?
There is so much polarization on this forum. No room for much disagreement... My guess is there are lots of people that don't say a word that might rock the boat.
Much has been made of his support of the "SAFE Act" because it made carrying a gun in a school a state felony and made "private transactions" illegal, but that does not begin to cover the broad reaching effects of the entire act, "The Big Picture", all of which he advocated.
One would also do well to remember that the act moved a federal felony up from a state misdemeanor to a state felony, which accomplishes just about nothing, and actually is the kind of law that the prosecutors who are against enhanced penalties rail against because it takes away their plea bargain chips.
And the fact that kids were buying guns in "private transactions" is nothing more than an excuse too, because there is no way the people who are likely to sell guns to the kids, already against NY State Law, are going to stop because another law was passed.
I don't care which "side" called it in, he deserves to be convicted and dropped off at Dannemora for a very long time. If nothing else, as a pistol permit holder in the State of New York (NY doesn't have CHLs per se) he has a responsibility to remember if he is armed and where it is illegal for him to carry, and just forgetting does not cut it.
But it wouldn't surprise me if Andy, who I remember as an arrogant snot nose kid working for his father because he couldn't find a legitimate job, didn't find a way to get one of his allies off the hook scot free.
