Detroit Police Chief confirms CC.

[chasfm11]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... aves-Lives

Breitbart News by AWR Hawkins 3 Jan 2014, 10:00 AM PD

...as he paid attention to crime stats; now, as Detroit Chief of Police, he is praising the advantage of an armed citizenry.

It is amazing how some are so influenced by their surroundings. When he was in LA, he had a different view.

I wonder what would happen if some of the other Liberal bastion chiefs were put into a different environment.

[gthaustex]

Small steps. One has to wonder if he will continue to be the police chief for very long, now that he isn't toeing the line of many city councils. I guess it all depends on how the city council and /or city manager in Detroit view his statement.

[RHenriksen]

A young friend of mine is the founder of Maine Open Carry Assoc (now Gun Owners of Maine) and was a USM student in Portland at the time. He was very proactive about engaging with the Portland P.D., hosted a couple of annual open carry barbeques, etc during that chief's tenure there. I sent him this article, he was tickled to read this. He hopes that his work might have helped influence the chief in a positive direction....

[Oldgringo]

I thought most people in Detroit carried guns?

[jmra]

I thought most people in Detroit carried guns?

[chasfm11]

I thought most people in Detroit carried guns?

So do a lot of people in Chicago....but they are all illegal according to Chicago's laws.

I haven't researched it from a statistical standpoint but my observation is that there are more big city chiefs of police against CC rather than being for it. I suspect that the underlying reasons are political rather than practical and realistic. I realize that Michigan is a much more gun friendly State than IL and that Detroit's bankruptcy situation may be causing more rational thought there now than the past 50 years of city administrations there have produced. But I see it a news worthy event when the chief is willing to make these kinds of statements on the record. I'm sure that very few of the media outlets will agree with my assessment, however.

I'm not even sure that many of the chiefs in Texas cities would agree with him and the Texas CC record is above reproach.

[WildBill]

The story says that Chief Craig came to Detroit via Portland, Maine.
That was probably a culture shock that changed his opinion about CC.

I like the picture for the story. A pistol tucked into the back of a pair of jeans, finger on the trigger.

[JALLEN]

In CA, the Sheriff in each county is the responsible officer issuing, or not, CCWs. Many are selected in the first place because they firmly oppose issuance, and guns in the hands of "civilians" in the first place, encouraged in this view by the Senators, Feinstein and Boxer.

You have to appreciate the power a Senator has in a state, especially the senior Senator of the President's party. She controls all patronage in the state. Nobody can be appointed to the Federal bench without her recommendation, and absolutely not over her objection. Many other federal perks are within her control, dams, roads, new courthouses, IRS processing centers, Social Security offices, any or all of which can be approved or not, depending on how backward your Sheriff happens to be. Nobody ever says this, but eventually they figure it out. A great many Supervisors (like county commissioners) are of this view anyway, but if not, they soon will be.

The Sheriff is elected, but great care is taken to make sure, like a conjurer's trick, the voters pick the one the Supervisors want. Appointing a new Sheriff who then runs as an incumbent, with all out support from the public employee unions, all the "favors" and horse trading of political life, are involved, and more besides.

[chasfm11]

In CA, the Sheriff in each county is the responsible officer issuing, or not, CCWs. Many are selected in the first place because they firmly oppose issuance, and guns in the hands of "civilians" in the first place, encouraged in this view by the Senators, Feinstein and Boxer.

You have to appreciate the power a Senator has in a state, especially the senior Senator of the President's party. She controls all patronage in the state. Nobody can be appointed to the Federal bench without her recommendation, and absolutely not over her objection. Many other federal perks are within her control, dams, roads, new courthouses, IRS processing centers, Social Security offices, any or all of which can be approved or not, depending on how backward your Sheriff happens to be. Nobody ever says this, but eventually they figure it out. A great many Supervisors (like county commissioners) are of this view anyway, but if not, they soon will be.

The Sheriff is elected, but great care is taken to make sure, like a conjurer's trick, the voters pick the one the Supervisors want. Appointing a new Sheriff who then runs as an incumbent, with all out support from the public employee unions, all the "favors" and horse trading of political life, are involved, and more besides.

I do understand that politics play a huge role in the lead law enforcement person in most areas. The voting public is lulled into believing that they actually have a say when they don't. That's why I found this particular situation so interesting. Detroit has a long one party history and it is not of people who thing guns in the hands of the populace are a good thing, let alone legally sanctioning it with a concealed carry license. Too many chiefs in big cities seem to have the holier than thou opinion all by themselves without any help from a Senator. I lived near Phila. for a while and there was no finer example of that than Frank Rizzo.

This guy, by whatever means he arrived at it, has a different opinion and the "intestinal fortitude" to say it in public.

[JALLEN]

This guy, by whatever means he arrived at it, has a different opinion and the "intestinal fortitude" to say it in public.

I wonder how long he can continue if the powers that be find that uncomfortable?

Good on him, of course, and very brave.

[bigbang]

In CA, the Sheriff in each county is the responsible officer issuing, or not, CCWs. Many are selected in the first place because they firmly oppose issuance, and guns in the hands of "civilians" in the first place, encouraged in this view by the Senators, Feinstein and Boxer.

You have to appreciate the power a Senator has in a state, especially the senior Senator of the President's party. She controls all patronage in the state. Nobody can be appointed to the Federal bench without her recommendation, and absolutely not over her objection. Many other federal perks are within her control, dams, roads, new courthouses, IRS processing centers, Social Security offices, any or all of which can be approved or not, depending on how backward your Sheriff happens to be. Nobody ever says this, but eventually they figure it out. A great many Supervisors (like county commissioners) are of this view anyway, but if not, they soon will be.

Last time I checked, Detroit wasn't in California, but it sounds like Tammany Hall has a thriving branch office in California.

[chasfm11]

The Detroit Chief was on Fox and Friends this morning. He said two interesting things after noting several times that the BGs were more afraid of the armed citizens than they were of the police.

1. More BGs are wearing body arm

2. In many situations, the BGs are forcing the victims to strip to make sure that they aren't armed.

[A-R]

Good article. This chief really is on our side with this issue, as is the Commissioner apparently.

Be interesting to compare Detroit and Chicago.

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