Zimmerman is not guilty

[Redneck_Buddha]

It's downright painful reading misinformed claptrap.

[RottenApple]

So George Zimmerman did not disobey the police and put himself in a situation where he was forced to use deadly force?

No. He didn't disobey the polic because no police gave him an order (lawful or otherwise). If you had actually watched the testimony of the non-emergency dispatcher you would know that 1) they are not police officers nor have police powers, 2) that dispatchers do NOT give orders, only make suggestions, due to liability issues, 3) even the non-emergency dispatcher agreed that it sounded like Zimmerman heeded his suggestion ("we don't need you to do that"), and 4) the dispatcher requested information on "which way he (meaning Martin) went", "what's he (Martin) doing now", etc even after he suggested (and Zimmerman apparently complied) that Z not follow TM.

Add to the fact that if RJ's (aka "DeeDee) is to be believed, TM was almost home and, instead of going inside and calling the police about being followed, decided to go after that "creepy-*** cracker".

Sorry, but Zimmerman did not do anything illegal and, in totality of the evidence, doesn't even look to have used bad judgement. It's hardly Zimmerman's fault that TM decided to viciously attack, without justification or provocation, Zimmerman.

Ok. I'm done feeding the troll now.

[baldeagle]

Somebody getting shot while pounding a person's head in the concrete is hardly a tragedy. Actions have consequences.

The point was that a life was lost. Legal or not, GZ made some bad choices too. And even though he was acquitted, his actions will have consequences for him too. He may always have to be looking over his shoulder.

Exactly. Why did he pursue the boy? Was Trayvon standing his ground against an adult who is stalking him at night as he walks home from the store to get candy and soda while talking to a lady friend. Why did Zimmerman follow after being directed not to? It is shameful that the justice system failed us today.

Oh for God's sake! Give it up! There was ZERO evidence in the trial that Zimmerman pursued Martin. There was ZERO evidence in the trial that Zimmerman was stalking Martin. Plenty of emotional tripe from the prosecution? Yes. But ZERO evidence. Trayvon, according to the girl who was talking to him on the phone, was "right by his father's house" 2 minutes before the altercation began. He sucker punched Zimmerman at the T, almost 70 yards from his father's house. How did he get there? We'll never know, because his phone, which was in the custody of the state, "mysteriously" was missing the GPS data from that ONE DAY. Somebody erased that data, and it wasn't Martin. He was dead. And it wasn't Zimmerman. He never had possession of the phone. You figure it out. And why do you think that data would have been erased? Because it proved that Zimmerman pursued him? Please don't make me laugh.

There was ZERO evidence that Zimmerman "disobeyed" the dispatcher (even though the dispatcher has no authority to give someone orders and would open the department up to lawsuits if he did). I watched/listened to a great deal of the trial. I can guarantee you that justice was served and the verdict was correct, just as it was in the OJ trial. (And yes, I watched that entire trial.)

The SYG laws do NOT give you the right to assault someone because you don't like them, because they are following you or even because they are pursuing you. SYG says IF you are attacked, you have the right to defend yourself.

[baldeagle]

Shameful isn't it?

Moderators, how does a guy manage to post this when he's not a member?

[baldeagle]

So George Zimmerman did not disobey the police and put himself in a situation where he was forced to use deadly force? Now the rest of the nation thinks CCWers are just a bunch of wannabe cops thanks to that moron.

Moderators, please get rid of this guy.

[chuck j]

Ya'll can not rationalize with these people , DON"T FEED THE TROLLS !! It just keeps em goin ! They love it ! It's what they live for ! Believe me !

[chuck j]

Mod's will make their own decision , DONT FEED THE TROLLS! , YOUR BUYING INTO THE MADNESS .

[chuck j]

It's a game to these people , they have no stake in it , they are simply jerking you around , dont fall for it .Your passion for what is right means nothing to them . Use your sense of whats right and fair play where it will do some good .

[texanjoker]

America's justice system. Not perfect all the time (OJ), but spot on this time.

I pray for my brothers, sisters and the k9's that will be in the mix if it heats up.

[magicglock]

I'm not interested in feeding the troll or debating the facts of a case that 1) Should never have been brought to a court 2) The vast majority of the public are forming opinions based on news reports and not by actually listening to the court deliberation and therefore have no basis for an informed logical argument 3) had nothing at all to do with race or stand your ground law 4) was subject to political influence and a dirty tactics by the prosecution including withholding evidence.

Bottom line here is that we as a CHL community need to reinforce with our fellow CHLers what it means to be a good witness and the consequence of failing to do so. If GZ had called 911 and stayed in his car to be a good witness, a loss of life would not have occurred. In my opinion, the justice system was abused by bringing this case but ultimately produced the correct verdict as GZ did not commit a crime by the letter of the law. He is guilty of violating our unwritten code of being a good witness and avoiding confrontation.

For those that do not agree with the verdict, I believe you can take comfort in the fact that GZ will pay the ultimate price for his stupidity in how he lives the remainder of his life. He will never return to a normal job. He will be deprived of his life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness as he is punished by the court of public opinion and will more than likely live the remainder of his life in fear. A guilty verdict and jail time may have been easier for him to deal with than the price he will pay for his freedom. I see this as two lives destroyed by the stupid decision to leave the security of his car and be a good witness.

[G26ster]

Great. 176 pages on the event and the trial going on here:

http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=67658" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and now we have a new thread to announce the verdict that's got 3 pages just tonight. Why?

[Skiprr]

Locking this Topic. The correct Topic for your opinions is this one: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=53427" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

It was started on March 12, 2012 and has racked up 176 pages and counting.

Whenever possible, please try to constrain your posts to a relevant Topic that is already running. That helps all of us.

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