UK Police take 20 minutes to respond to a Beheading

[Purplehood]

What I meant is this murder would never accomplish what the criminal killer stated. He is not only a terrorist but a cold blood killer. Simply, this murder would have 0 effect on UK foreign policy or its politics.

I seriously doubt that. Some new knee-jerk reaction in the interest of further tightening of 'security' will result.

[C-dub]

What I meant is this murder would never accomplish what the criminal killer stated. He is not only a terrorist but a cold blood killer. Simply, this murder would have 0 effect on UK foreign policy or its politics.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. It already has had an effect on them in their homeland. They have ordered their servicemen and women to not go out in public in uniform. They probably already have that policy over seas. And IIRC, doesn't the U.S. already have that same policy over seas?

It seems like the only group on the planet that has their heads buried in the sand is our current federal government's administration and their liberal supporters.

[texanjoker]

I can't say what their response time was, but I can say in the big cities (and rural) there are times when there are too many priority calls (shootings, stabbings, robbery's) at the same time and response times are long as you can only be at one place at a time. That is the real world. One better be prepared for that.

[Rrash]

By far, the most disturbing facts about this London terrorist attack is the reaction by Britons. I'm not posting the pictures of the murderers standing over the body, but they are easy to find in any of these stories. They clearly show civilians confronting them as unarmed police stand idly by. For 14-20 minutes, civilian women and another bystander protected the general public (who did not retreat or assist, but stood at a distance taking photographs and video) while police passively waited for armed backup.

Minds in a gun free society function with no sense of logic or reality. While these brave women (and 1-2 civilian men) have been touted as heroes for keeping these evil men from murdering more people, the disturbing inaction of the London police has largely been ignored. What is the world coming to when civilians keep the police safe from criminals?

Today, as Britain warns of the possibility of copycat attacks, their response is more guns. http://www.apnews.com/ap/db_45577/conte ... ailindex=1

[Abraham]

The acts of these particular terrorists will serve to further strengthen the resolve of those battling terrorism and perhaps open the eyes of some of the liberal fantasists...

[anygunanywhere]

The acts of these particular terrorists will serve to further strengthen the resolve of those battling terrorism and perhaps open the eyes of some of the liberal fantasists...

Nah.

Too many bleating sheep over there.

Anygunanywhere

[texanjoker]

By far, the most disturbing facts about this London terrorist attack is the reaction by Britons. I'm not posting the pictures of the murderers standing over the body, but they are easy to find in any of these stories. They clearly show civilians confronting them as unarmed police stand idly by. For 14-20 minutes, civilian women and another bystander protected the general public (who did not retreat or assist, but stood at a distance taking photographs and video) while police passively waited for armed backup.

Minds in a gun free society function with no sense of logic or reality. While these brave women (and 1-2 civilian men) have been touted as heroes for keeping these evil men from murdering more people, the disturbing inaction of the London police has largely been ignored. What is the world coming to when civilians keep the police safe from criminals?

Today, as Britain warns of the possibility of copycat attacks, their response is more guns. http://www.apnews.com/ap/db_45577/conte ... ailindex=1

What do you expect unarmed cops to do? They need guns. The British govt. won't give them guns. The only logical tactic in that case is to either wait like they did for an armed response team, OR get in their cars and run the idiots over .... but then people would go nuts if they did that.

[Strat9mm]

What I meant is this murder would never accomplish what the criminal killer stated. He is not only a terrorist but a cold blood killer. Simply, this murder would have 0 effect on UK foreign policy or its politics.

Ah, okay, got it.

Problem with the UK is that they have already lost the fight, and the U.S. is right behind them.

The Stockholm riots are another example. I read an article yesterday and the writer would not even mention that the 'youths' who were rioting, were MUSLIM until he quoted it from a right wing 'extremist'. The 'right-wing extremist' indicated that muslim youths make NO attempt to assimilate into society and use any reason to riot and cause trouble. And isn't this what we've all seen all over the world? Almost every other group assimilates into western societies all over the world, peacefully, except for one particularly 'peaceful religion'.

Right after the Woolwich attack, a reporter on the scene said that the government did not want to yet call this a terrorist incident (paraphrase). Who in hell is so stupid as to believe this was NOT a terrorist attack after watching that famous 'interview'?

And of course, in a speech recently, our Commander in Chief said we are NOT at war with Islam. If we aren't, then we should just bring all our troops back home, and let those 'nations' fix their own problems, and with their OWN money. Just sayin'!

It seems as if the leaders of most, if not all western governments are taking pains to bend over for a certain 'peaceful religion' as they make every attempt to whitewash them and their attacks.

And commentators on the right are just as bad!

Muslims detest cowards and look at those who attempt to appease them as just that, cowards and idiots who deserve even worse treatment.

Islam has a phrase for those in the west who demonstrate on their behalf... 'useful fools'.

Appeasement does nothing but encourage even more attacks.

And since that is the only tactic the west seems to be willing to use, well, the future is looking really bleak with absolutely NO HOPE of ending anything but our way of life in the west.

A Zombie apocalypse would be preferable to what is surely going to come. At least zombies can't run or shoot. Terrorists do both, as well as torture, rape and kill.

Appeasement is tantamount to negotiating with terrorists, just like we negotiated with Arafat, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, etc, and STILL DO!

But hey, if about half this country and others want to vote into office a pack of appeasers and apologists, well, then we all are going to pay for it, together.

It sickens me to realize that if every Republican had actually just gone out and vote, instead of making some excuse about how Romney wasn't Mr. Perfect, we'd be well on our way to having a chance to save this country and resolve so many issues.

For that matter, everyone should have gone out and voted for McCain and Sarah Palin. But course, many wouldn't because they weren't 'ideal'.

Now we ALL get to enjoy the ride.

Apathy isn't free.

What was that saying, "Evil prevails when good men do nothing"?

If good men do nothing, are they all that good in the first place?

Have a nice day.

[armanius]

Strat9mm-

Couldn't agree more with you!!! Preach on brother!

That being said, I think even the likes of some libtards like Bill Maher are waking up and figuring out that the "peaceful religion" is the only one nowadays going around murdering people in the name of the "peaceful religion". And most of the followers of the "peaceful religion" either join the endeavors, tacitly approve in silence, and/or do nothing to make the "peaceful religion" a truly peaceful religion.

Meanwhile, potus goes around saying that it's our bad, "we" gotta do a better job of reaching out to them.

Isn't it great when we open our borders to people everywhere (legal and illegally) and then some of the people who come here then blow us up? But it's our fault because we didn't reach out to them. I'd consider welcoming others into our country plenty of reaching out!

End of rant.

[Strat9mm]

Strat9mm-

Couldn't agree more with you!!! Preach on brother!

That being said, I think even the likes of some libtards like Bill Maher are waking up and figuring out that the "peaceful religion" is the only one nowadays going around murdering people in the name of the "peaceful religion". And most of the followers of the "peaceful religion" either join the endeavors, tacitly approve in silence, and/or do nothing to make the "peaceful religion" a truly peaceful religion.

Meanwhile, potus goes around saying that it's our bad, "we" gotta do a better job of reaching out to them.

Isn't it great when we open our borders to people everywhere (legal and illegally) and then some of the people who come here then blow us up? But it's our fault because we didn't reach out to them. I'd consider welcoming others into our country plenty of reaching out!

End of rant.

Yeah, I notice Jay Leno is recognizing some of the hypocrisy of this administration as he makes fun of them in his monologues.

As for reaching out to Muslims... I wonder if people bothered to realize that if Muslims aren't actively killing Christians and Jews, they're busy killing each other.

After Gulf War 1 and 2, we were kind enough to rebuild their cities, infrastructure and guide them into Democracy. Basically we were rebuilding their entire country.

One would think that if someone offered to rebuild the home, give money and food to, and provide jobs and infrastructure to a peaceful and logical person, that the person would graciously accept such help, thank us, and peacefully let us rebuild and fix all that they have.

And what happened when we tried to do that with Iraq? What did we get? We get a 'peaceful religion' trying to kill and blow our troops up on a continuous basis, except of course, when they were too busy trying to shoot and blow each other up.

Not exactly what anyone would call sane behavior. So now we can all see the difference between the mindset (and religious views) of the West and the (middle) east. One is sane, and one, well, isn't.

On a side note, many seem to forget that we DID find evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq in Gulf War 1 AND 2. They were BIOLOGICAL and CHEMICAL. There was also clear physical evidence of the efforts the Iraqi's were making towards manufacturing nuclear weapons. After Gulf War 1, Saddam had approx 14 years to submit to open inspections of his nuclear sites. That is FOURTEEN YEARS of 'NEGOTIATIONS' which he NEVER FULLY complied with. And we were expected to not do anything about it? How much more negotiating exactly was called for? Personally, I believe we should have firebombed a few cities and all his nuclear and military facilities, then left. But hey, that's just me. I'd prefer to get the job done well the first time and minimize (our) loss of life.

A news article recently indicated that Christians are leaving Arab countries because of the real persecution they've been suffering including attacks, imprisonment, torture and murder. Is that what a peaceful religion does to it's fellow citizens who do them no harm? Really? Egypt is INFAMOUS (or would be in the liberal media had done it's job) for PERSECUTING and MURDERING Christians in it's country for YEARS under Mubarak. But no, barely a peep from the media.

It's odd how the vast majority of media is either SILENT or actively in defense of liberals, Democrats, Muslims, those who commit illegal abortions and real threats to our country internally, and even externally. It's as if vast majority of the media are actually working for the enemy... Fact is, and many don't realize it, they are. Anyway....

No sane person would appease a murderer, a rapist, or a terrorist. Realistically, those who appease such degenerates, are ENCOURAGING THEM.

It brings to mind movies from Sylvester Stallone and Clint Eastwood which brought light on public sentiment for the rights of the criminals which completely over-rode the rights of the victims.

If people really think the rights of criminals over-ride the rights of innocent men women and children, then perhaps they should move to an Arab country, declare to all present that they are Americans, and experience the fruits of their beliefs first-hand. I'm sure they'll come running home if they survive the experience. I seem to recall a pack of American traitors who went to Iraq in Gulf War I to act as human shields for the Iraqi's. And again, hardly a peep when they soon came running home in fear of their lives when they realized that the Iraqi's detested them. These 'Americans' realized that they were truly in mortal danger. The Iraqi's considered these Americans(?) as (useful) fools, traitors and cowards to arrogantly come to a foreign country who has no use for those of the west. Yeah, peaceful religion indeed.

Funny how ziggurats (a form of pyramids, the Great Pyramid of Cheops being the sole exception) are found all over the world, and there is only one use for them when they were built... human sacrifice. And we all know how the Mayans, Aztecs and Incas would treat their own people, and their enemies even worse, as they sacrificed them alive, ripping their hearts out, skinning them alive and wearing the skin, even cannibalizing their enemies while still alive on the battlefield. The pictures on these ziggurats tell a very clear story, especially the ziggurats which are all south of the American border.

So now we know what to expect when the flood comes, not of water, but of something else. The term "Zombie Apocalypse" comes to mind...

I'm betting Homeland Security vehicles will be nowhere in sight if we get overrun. Even the Border Patrol are prevented from doing their jobs by this administration while millions are spent in warehousing the walls that were supposed to be installed to protect our southern borders because this administration refuses to build and finish the wall.

Kidnapping, torturing, raping and murdering Americans is fast becoming national sport south of the border. So again, we know what to expect.

So many things wrong with our present government.

And with all the flood of recent revelations of wrongdoing just flooding the airwaves right now, it should be obvious to all but the blind and deaf how corrupt this Democrat-led government is.

In another time, just one or two of these horrible and outrageous scandals would have triggered immediate criminal investigations, mass-firings and a recall of some type because the majority of citizens would have still had their heads on straight to recognize the outrageous behavior and outright LIES that were committed.

As for gun control, it's almost as if someone knows something is going to happen, and wants to protect the invaders and limit their losses as we attempt to defend ourselves. I'm sure they'd prefer we'd have just sticks and stones instead of guns and ammo to do it with.

So they buy up all the ammo, make it illegal to have guns with decent capacity clips, and try to register all buyers as if they were planning to use the list to know who to go after in confiscation raids. (Which is what Nagin during Katrina.)

In Benghazi, someone REFUSED to DEFEND Americans. Someone REFUSED to bolster security before the attack. Someone REFUSED to send help DURING the attack, AFTER THEY WERE (allegedly) ORDERED TO BY THE PRESIDENT. And SOMEONE REFUSED, TWICE, to allow our two former SEALS to go help Americans under attack at the consulate.

So now we see how this government REFUSED to act, SEVERAL TIMES in DEFENSE of Americans, even while under attack.

And AFTER the attack, SOMEONE held the FBI back from arriving on scene for WEEKS. Even liberal reporters were there just days after the attack gathering evidence which the FBI wouldn't see for weeks. Who kept the FBI from arriving on scene for weeks?

Everyone knows that middle and lower level people in a chain of command do NOT go off-reservation and make decisions which they do not have the authority to make.

The middle and lower level people at State (and the IRS) would have reported to superiors who DID have the authority to make such decisions.

When it comes down to it, one person who is actually in charge, who HAS the authority, makes the decision after the request finally reaches them.

To be blunt, SOMEONE made a PRE-DETERMINED decision to let our fellow Americans hang out to dry, effectively leaving them behind in the battlefield.

Such behavior is unconscionable.

Our Ambassador was tortured, raped and then murdered. This should have been an act of war and still we have NO ONE in custody.

We still do NOT know who made the decisions to REFUSE to send ANY help during the attack.

Someone in charge made these decisions. THAT person should be tried as a traitor and made an example of.

SECDEF Les Aspin resigned after Mogadishu. He took the blame for SOMEONE at State or in the Administration, who refused to allow our soldiers to have tanks because our tanks may have offended the Somalis.

Les Aspin should have resigned for not having the cojones to SEND tanks anyway.

The person who REFUSED to ALLOW the tanks to be sent to Mogadishu, should have been fired and thrown out the back of a C-130 or C17 with a parachute in the middle of Mogadishu, Somalia... Good riddance!

And back to our domestic issues... when these liberals cry 'conspiracy theory', they themselves refuse to admit that Chicago, California, and New York, homes of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, have utterly FAILED in their goals of making citizens more safe. These are PRIME EXAMPLES of FAILED gun policies which have NO effect on criminals, except to ENCOURAGE them to attack a DISARMED citizenry.

They don't seem to want to admit the simple fact that criminals do NOT obey the law. Criminals will get guns regardless of whether or not law-abiding citizens have them or not.

What's funny is how the Democrats themselves plan on a national level when and how to implement their policies at a local level as trial balloons. Hence all the ludicrous anti-gun laws proposed by Democrats in Austin. Talk about conspiracies!

I feel truly sorry for Americans in California, NY and Chicago. They're paying the price right now for the incompetence, and outright evil of their leaders that were voted into office.

And so will we all, if we don't vote them out.

The IRS, Janet Napolitano and DHS, want to target Tea-Party, Republicans, Christians, Pro-Israeli's and Jews and those who believe in less government, the rule of law, and the 2nd Amendment as TERRORISTS. Then Janet and the DHS should realize they would be accusing the Founding Fathers including George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Patrick Henry, Nathan Hale, and many others, INCLUDING those who died at the Alamo, of also being TERRORISTS.

Napolitano and the left seem to forget that the Founding Fathers beliefs were Judeo-Christian, believed in less government (as opposed to evil tyrants who reigned as kings), and individual rights including the right to bear arms, the rule of law and LESS taxes.

These are all beliefs that this country was founded on and which many brave men and women have fought and died for.

In my view, Napolitano and anyone else who believes such drivel as she does, including that supreme idiot Jim Carrey, are all traitors, and need to leave this country whose Founding Fathers they seem to despise so much.

I fail to see why every Republican and Independent doesn't take the high moral ground and embarrass the hell out of any Democrat who refuses to acknowledge and fully support the rights and beliefs that our Founding Fathers held dear.

If the Democrats disagree, then they are free to leave. The planet Earth has lots of land on which they can found another communist or socialist society. Too bad for them that communism and socialism are demonstrated FAILED ideologies. I guess history and current events are not Democrat strong suits.

It's time to take a page out of the Democrat playbook, and demonize anyone who dares to reject the principals, beliefs and rights which our Founding Fathers and our Armed Forces fought so hard for.

Take care.

p.s. Numerous edits above for clarity.

p.p.s. Apologies for being long-winded. :-)

[jmra]

I tried to tell her that many of the police don't have weapons over there and that none of the citizens do. No one is going to go after that guy after doing that while he's still carrying those knives without a gun.

"Weapons" is the correct term. Not only are guns banned but many other items that one might use to defend themselves. The public would have no defense against this guy. The first cops to show might have had clubs but not guns. The only amazing thing about this is that it doesn't happen everyday.

[JJVP]

UK Arranged for London Beheader’s Release from Kenyan Prison on Terror Charges

British diplomats recommended that a British man detained in Kenya 2 1/2 years ago on suspicion of attempting to join Islamic fighters in Somalia be freed, the lawyer who represented him said Thursday. The man was let go and last week allegedly helped butcher a British soldier on the streets of London.

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[Doug.38PR]

Wow. They respond twice as fast as police in the US