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Re: Commentary points out its the Democrats

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gdanaher wrote:My final thoughts here: If someone asks me I will tell them that I am a Democrat. Then I usually have to amend it to say a moderate Democrat because my Republican acquaintances see everything in black and white. Pun intended. Now the question is who is the smarter group of campaigners. During election season, about once a week I get this form to fill out from the RNC, and at the end they want me to donate a couple hundred. I generally take several minutes to thoughtfully fill out the form to my liking and mail it back in their Business Reply envelope. That has to cost them something. About three times a day I get emails, sent at essentially no cost, asking me unabashedly to donate $4 or more to the DNC. I can use my debit card or PayPal or green stamps. They will take it any way I can send it. No stupid questionnaire that nobody is going to read. The RNC is just looking at the people who voted in their primary. Perhaps they didn't vote there for the reasons the RNC imagines. The DNC is mass emailing everyone, including the 47% with email access, and seeing what sticks. And the Democrats are stupid? Hummm.
You call republicans stupid, and then bow out?

Thanks to voters like you, I will begin paying an annual fine to the IRS because I fall in that very large middle ground of self-employed people who can neither afford to buy their own health insurance, nor who qualify for welfare and will thus have the state provide it to them. And because, as Max Baucus—that absolute retard Democrat from Montana who put his name on the Senate version of the bill—acknowledged a few days ago on national television when "confronting" Kathleen Sebelius (as if democrats ever actually confront one of their own) over the absolute FACT that the AHCA was possibly the worst written law ever passed and a looming train-wreck (HIS words, not mine), the alleged insurance exchanges which were supposed to come into existence THIS year won't actually BEGIN to be available until 2015 (if they EVER actually get implemented, since insurers are not required to join)........but I get to pay TWO years worth of fines in the meantime to the IRS for your party's misbegotten and failed attempt at ramming unwanted governance down the throat of people, no matter how much it actually harms them. Nearly 70% of the country did not want that bill, but politicians elected by democrats like you just up and screwed the rest of us......which means that you screwed the rest of us because you elected them. And what's worse is that nazi fine YOUR party imposed on me will be used to buy health insurance for people who qualify for the social safety net. And worse yet, because of that fine, I am even LESS able to buy insurance for myself. YOUR absolute twisted corrupted retarded politicians did that to me, and to everyone like me who is self-employed and neither a net drain on society nor wealthy enough to afford insurance.......which BTW, your absolutely EPICLY stupid DEMOCRAT-passed bill made even more expensive because it drove premiums up nationwide anywhere from 10% to 70% more than before, depending on which state you're unfortunate enough to live in.

Every single time I pay that absolutely unjust and immorally imposed fine to the IRS, I will remember that DEMOCRATS did this to me, and I will never forgive, and I will never forget. You call republicans stupid; I call democrats blind to the laws of consequences. I will never again be willing to have political discourse with DEMOCRATS because they cannot be trusted with the welfare of the people........unless it means the welfare of some grasping entitlement group what doesn't care who they screw in the process so long as they get theirs. And DEMOCRATS are willing to do that for them to get their votes. Because of DEMOCRATS, I actually believe that the U.S. is a dying nation. Are republicans much better? Yes, but not by much......but at least THEY didn't give us this takeover of 1/6 of the economy.

Oh, and death panels ARE real. I just spoke with a friend of mine today whose dad is fighting cancer back in Massachusetts......a DEMOCRAT state......and he told me that Obama's medicare department has just told his dad that they are going to discontinue coverage of his chemotherapy, because he's an old man and his life isn't worth the expense. It's not the doctors who want to discontinue it. It's not his dad who wants to discontinue it. It is a death panel within the Medicare system, newly impoverished by being defunded to supposedly help pay for AHCA, which is telling this man that his life is not worth the expense of treating his cancer. DEMOCRATS voted for that crap.

And you have the temerity to call republicans stupid? Here's the problem with the DEMOCRAT party: it de-gausses your moral compass leaving your true north indicator needle spinning on its bearing, with no clue of which direction leads us into a better future. Don't like that characterization? Deal with it. You started it by calling republicans stupid. Taste your own medicine.
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What still gets me about the Democrats is the two-faced nature of their leaders:

-- "If we can do one thing to save even one child, we must" ---- then speak at a Planned Parenthood conference and end the speach with "God bless you."

-- declaring that one's energy policy is "all of the above" ---- then kill the coal industry by EPA regulation, stall or deny the Keystone pipeline and waste billions on unproven and uneconomical "investments" in the likes of Solyndra, A123 and Fisker Automotive.

-- on-going chest-beating over the killing of bin Laden --- while ducking and hiding the facts around Benghazi.

-- don't even get me started on "if you like your health care plan you can keep it" and Obamacare "will actually save you money" and "there will be no death panels" and Obamacare "will save over $1.2B over 10 years."

Have other administrations lied to us, sure. But I've never seen or experienced such open and recognizable decit before.
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jmra wrote:
gdanaher wrote:because my Republican acquaintances see everything in black and white. Pun intended.
Has to be the most racist statement I've seen on this forum.
HEY GUYS gdanaher made a joke about all his republican friends being racist. Seeing the world in black and white means Seeing only right and wrong. But because he is talking about racist republicans it also refers to skin color. As in republicans only see white people and black people and nothing else! They are so racist!

Isn't that so clever? I especially like the way he added "pun intended" after his cleverness so we would not miss out on the clever racism. People who add "pun intended" after a comment are almost never desperate for attention.


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The Annoyed Man wrote:
gdanaher wrote:My final thoughts here: If someone asks me I will tell them that I am a Democrat. Then I usually have to amend it to say a moderate Democrat because my Republican acquaintances see everything in black and white. Pun intended. Now the question is who is the smarter group of campaigners. During election season, about once a week I get this form to fill out from the RNC, and at the end they want me to donate a couple hundred. I generally take several minutes to thoughtfully fill out the form to my liking and mail it back in their Business Reply envelope. That has to cost them something. About three times a day I get emails, sent at essentially no cost, asking me unabashedly to donate $4 or more to the DNC. I can use my debit card or PayPal or green stamps. They will take it any way I can send it. No stupid questionnaire that nobody is going to read. The RNC is just looking at the people who voted in their primary. Perhaps they didn't vote there for the reasons the RNC imagines. The DNC is mass emailing everyone, including the 47% with email access, and seeing what sticks. And the Democrats are stupid? Hummm.
You call republicans stupid, and then bow out?

Thanks to voters like you, I will begin paying an annual fine to the IRS because I fall in that very large middle ground of self-employed people who can neither afford to buy their own health insurance, nor who qualify for welfare and will thus have the state provide it to them. And because, as Max Baucus—that absolute retard Democrat from Montana who put his name on the Senate version of the bill—acknowledged a few days ago on national television when "confronting" Kathleen Sebelius (as if democrats ever actually confront one of their own) over the absolute FACT that the AHCA was possibly the worst written law ever passed and a looming train-wreck (HIS words, not mine), the alleged insurance exchanges which were supposed to come into existence THIS year won't actually BEGIN to be available until 2015 (if they EVER actually get implemented, since insurers are not required to join)........but I get to pay TWO years worth of fines in the meantime to the IRS for your party's misbegotten and failed attempt at ramming unwanted governance down the throat of people, no matter how much it actually harms them. Nearly 70% of the country did not want that bill, but politicians elected by democrats like you just up and screwed the rest of us......which means that you screwed the rest of us because you elected them. And what's worse is that nazi fine YOUR party imposed on me will be used to buy health insurance for people who qualify for the social safety net. And worse yet, because of that fine, I am even LESS able to buy insurance for myself. YOUR absolute twisted corrupted retarded politicians did that to me, and to everyone like me who is self-employed and neither a net drain on society nor wealthy enough to afford insurance.......which BTW, your absolutely EPICLY stupid DEMOCRAT-passed bill made even more expensive because it drove premiums up nationwide anywhere from 10% to 70% more than before, depending on which state you're unfortunate enough to live in.

Every single time I pay that absolutely unjust and immorally imposed fine to the IRS, I will remember that DEMOCRATS did this to me, and I will never forgive, and I will never forget. You call republicans stupid; I call democrats blind to the laws of consequences. I will never again be willing to have political discourse with DEMOCRATS because they cannot be trusted with the welfare of the people........unless it means the welfare of some grasping entitlement group what doesn't care who they screw in the process so long as they get theirs. And DEMOCRATS are willing to do that for them to get their votes. Because of DEMOCRATS, I actually believe that the U.S. is a dying nation. Are republicans much better? Yes, but not by much......but at least THEY didn't give us this takeover of 1/6 of the economy.

Oh, and death panels ARE real. I just spoke with a friend of mine today whose dad is fighting cancer back in Massachusetts......a DEMOCRAT state......and he told me that Obama's medicare department has just told his dad that they are going to discontinue coverage of his chemotherapy, because he's an old man and his life isn't worth the expense. It's not the doctors who want to discontinue it. It's not his dad who wants to discontinue it. It is a death panel within the Medicare system, newly impoverished by being defunded to supposedly help pay for AHCA, which is telling this man that his life is not worth the expense of treating his cancer. DEMOCRATS voted for that crap.

And you have the temerity to call republicans stupid? Here's the problem with the DEMOCRAT party: it de-gausses your moral compass leaving your true north indicator needle spinning on its bearing, with no clue of which direction leads us into a better future. Don't like that characterization? Deal with it. You started it by calling republicans stupid. Taste your own medicine.
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Very well said. I have friends in your similiar situation, and a Mother facing similiar horse booger medical obumer dumbocrat we're smarter than you care. Thank you for putting, and always keeping things on the real.
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Purplehood wrote:
Dadtodabone wrote:Uh, we don't register party affiliation in Texas, so Nidal Malik Hasan couldn't be a "registered democrat".
Uh, he was Military and probably a non-resident.
Right, which is why I stated,
Both the prior had been residents in Va, which doesn't register party affiliation anyway, so no "registered anything" just like Texas.
Hasan's domicile prior to Texas was Va.
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TexasGal wrote:...that seem to be producing the most mass killers lately:
Commentary from Paul R. Beane on KFYO radio on 1/24/2013:

Good afternoon, I'm Paul R. Beane and I'm your right wing gun nut.
It is the responsible gun owners of today that is being blamed for all the shootings. Obama calls us the right wing gun nuts, clinging to our guns and to our religion.
But lets take a little closer look. The Fort Hood shooter, a Muslim, and a registered Democrat. The Virginia Tech shooter, he wrote hate mail to George Bush and his staff and was a registered Democrat. Aurora Colorado shooter, he was a staff worker on the Obama campaign and took part in Occupy Wall Street. He was a progressive liberal and guess what? A registered Democrat. The Newtown, Conn shooter hated Christians and was a registered Democrat. The Columbine high school shooters were too young to vote, but both of their families were progressive liberals and registered Democrats.
And one more thing, not a single one of these killers were members of the National Rifle Association. So I have got it figured out how to make this country much safer; leave the guns alone and lock up all the Democrats.
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gdanaher wrote:"And one more thing, not a single one of these killers were members of the National Rifle Association."

So, if he was wrong on 2 out of 4 states not requiring declarations of party affiliation, How could he be trusted to have examined the private and confidential membership rolls of the NRA to determine that none of the people in question had been members? Apparently some of you hold him to a lower standard. Sad.
Not necessarily wrong about Hasan. Hasan may have been registered to vote in another state. He was active duty military, not required to register in the state where he was assigned. I was a PA resident for 8 years while on active duty. Lived in FL, CA, MD, FL. Voted by PA absentee ballot the whole time. Registered by party affiliation.

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I am appalled that anyone would admit to being a Democrat, gdanaher. I'm not sure what kind of reaction you were expecting, but you shouldn't expect anything less than what you are receiving. Ignorance among Democrats runs rampant. It shows in everything they do and say on a daily basis even more so now than ever before. Here is another example of that ignorance: Bill Clinton: “You’re way better off with a shotgun than an assault weapon. Trust me.” He is agreeing with Joe Biden.
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Yes, living in Henderson County, a Democrat is about as rare as a left handed Swede with a limp. But we do exist, and having an interest in chl does imply that I am not ready to give up just yet. Political party affiliation though is a series of tradeoffs. Party platforms never reflect the opinions and values of all citizens, so as an individual I have to go down the ballot like you and pick and choose those who best reflect my values. These days though, it seems as if you aren't a Tea Party type of Republican, then you must be one of those messed up left wing things, because there just couldn't be any moderate Republicans and heaven knows that there aren't any moderate Democrats, only those wacky left wing types, right? There used to be a large number of yellow dog Democrats in the south. Now they are more like yellow dog Republicans. It's hard to argue otherwise after the party nominated Romney. The thing that I find most disturbing about the Texas electoral process is the top box for voting straight party. It takes all the thought out of the process and I suspect results in poorer government, regardless of who wins.
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a Democrat is about as rare as a left handed Swede with a limp
"rlol"
Now that's funny!
Thanks for not taking offense and instead posting a thoughtful response.
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gdanaher wrote:Yes, living in Henderson County, a Democrat is about as rare as a left handed Swede with a limp. But we do exist, and having an interest in chl does imply that I am not ready to give up just yet. Political party affiliation though is a series of tradeoffs. Party platforms never reflect the opinions and values of all citizens, so as an individual I have to go down the ballot like you and pick and choose those who best reflect my values. These days though, it seems as if you aren't a Tea Party type of Republican, then you must be one of those messed up left wing things, because there just couldn't be any moderate Republicans and heaven knows that there aren't any moderate Democrats, only those wacky left wing types, right? There used to be a large number of yellow dog Democrats in the south. Now they are more like yellow dog Republicans. It's hard to argue otherwise after the party nominated Romney. The thing that I find most disturbing about the Texas electoral process is the top box for voting straight party. It takes all the thought out of the process and I suspect results in poorer government, regardless of who wins.
The Democrat Party is the party PUSHING gun control, mostly onto those of us who have not committed any crimes with our firearms, and are extremely unlikely to do so in the future. While there are folks calling themselves Republican supporting it, there aren't very many of them. YOUR party OWNS gun control. This is a firearms-related forum. I know you are a person with much more education than I have, so please do not act surprised when YOUR party gets taken to task for the things that it stands for...like gun control and Obamacare. Are many of us on here mad about it? Yes we are, and that shouldn't be a surprise either. But it doesn't make us crazy nor does it make us racists.
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gdanaher wrote:Yes, living in Henderson County, a Democrat is about as rare as a left handed Swede with a limp. But we do exist, and having an interest in chl does imply that I am not ready to give up just yet. Political party affiliation though is a series of tradeoffs. Party platforms never reflect the opinions and values of all citizens, so as an individual I have to go down the ballot like you and pick and choose those who best reflect my values.
So here's your values. Debt, no matter how crushing, is no big deal.

Future citizens can pay it.

Health care is something the government should give you, even if it means you have to wait in long lines and you'll be refused treatment when you get old, because, well, you're old.

Killing people with drones is just fine when you're in power, but when a Republican President is in office, all wars are wrong.

Babies can be discarded like trash, because they're inconvenient and being responsible and using birth control is sooooooo old fashioned.

Sex with anyone and anything is fine, and marriage is so old fashioned that only fools engage in it.

It's just fine to pass laws that sound wonderful but enrich your friends and contributors.

Cheating to get elected is the right thing to do. What fool would leave elections up to the voters?

Asking for an ID for voting is racist. Asking for an ID for getting a gun is common sense.

I could go on, but what good would it do? You vote democrat, so it's clear you don't care about America.
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Things are getting a bit heated. It is understandable. For many years I voted independently by judging each candidate on his/her platform. I did not see their party affiliation as meaning they had no independent action. It did seem to me that in those days, there were a lot of moderate and even conservative democrats in office. Not now.

When Obamacare was forced through I felt a deep seated conviction the party had gone too far. Not because I thought we don't need to do something about medical costs, but because what they came up with was a travesty forced through against all reason and contained a staggeringly massive cost that would do far more harm than good. It would grow government power like nothing in history and that was obviously their real goal.

Since Sandy Hook, I have read countless gun control laws introduced all over our nation by the dems and seen the laws actually forced through by them every single place where they held enough power no matter how loud the objections or unfair the law. It's been like watching a flash mob suddenly arise that wants to take your very life simply because it has realized maybe it can and you are the only thing standing in it's way to total domination.

Our nation needs the two parties to be balanced so that people on both sides have fair representation. I see that balance is being murdered by the media in groupthink with the dems. When the Democratic Party has enough control everywhere, it will destroy America. You may be able to marry whatever sex you want, smoke whatever you want, end as many babies at whatever stage you wish, but you will eat, drink, drive, buy, say, live, wear, work, earn, have, and do only what and where you are allowed. If an evil person wants to take your life, the lives of your loved ones, or rape your daughters in front of you, you will not be allowed to defend yourself or them. If the cops don't get there in time, too bad for you. It's preferable to be a victim. It's preferable for everyone to be victims and seek always the succor of the father government. If you have children, they will belong to the state to train in the same thinking. All of these are their own ideas taken from the laws I have seen them trying to pass and the words that come out of their mouths daily. I have no wish to offend any democrat gun owner on this board. I do respect the rights of others to have differing opinions, but it seems like there is no longer a level playing field when one party has the media in it's hip pocket and the schools spouting its platform.

Sign me up as a person who regrets EVER giving this party one single vote even for dog catcher. I am not as articulate as Tam, but I sorely understand his frustration.
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gdanaher wrote:a Democrat...and choose those who best reflect my values.
A democrat with values?
"rlol"
I guess I should be thankful that at least you didn't use the two words in the same sentence.
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Well, at least admitting you have a problem is the first step on the road to recovery.

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