TX DPS Sancktioned well-regulated Militias?

[Beiruty]

Why in the world, TX does not train and maintain a well regulated militia (other than the national guard). I mean, why not accept anyone who is interested in Concealed Carry, self-defense, home-defense, "riot-control", and who are not interested in being in the TX State national guard reserve? Just a good old "para" and firearms training.

[gigag04]

Cost, liability, and lack of need, are my first three guesses. It sounds good in theory, but I'm not sure what benefit the state would get by it.

[anygunanywhere]

http://www.txsg.state.tx.us/

Here you go. Not quite what you asked for but this is Texas funded and reports to the governor.

Anygunanywhere

[JJVP]

http://www.txsg.state.tx.us/

Here you go. Not quite what you asked for but this is Texas funded and reports to the governor.

Anygunanywhere

I had looked at this the other day and a thought came to me, but I don't know if it would be possible. What if the gun ban/ confiscation came to pass. Could the governor declare every resident in TX that was legally able to posses a gun, part of the Texas State Guard? Since the members of the TXSG must provide their own firearms and ammunition and are part of the TX military, they would be exempt of all laws concerning "Assault Weapons" for civilians. After all, the military would not have to turn in their "Assault Weapons" and "large capacity" magazines if the proposed Feinstein law were to pass. The whole population of TX would become part of the TX military and not subject to civilian firearm restrictions.

Wild idea.

[GeekwithaGun]

http://www.txsg.state.tx.us/

Here you go. Not quite what you asked for but this is Texas funded and reports to the governor.

Anygunanywhere

I had looked at this the other day and a thought came to me, but I don't know if it would be possible. What if the gun ban/ confiscation came to pass. Could the governor declare every resident in TX that was legally able to posses a gun, part of the Texas State Guard? Since the members of the TXSG must provide their own firearms and ammunition and are part of the TX military, they would be exempt of all laws concerning "Assault Weapons" for civilians. After all, the military would not have to turn in their "Assault Weapons" and "large capacity" magazines if the proposed Feinstein law were to pass. The whole population of TX would become part of the TX military and not subject to civilian firearm restrictions.

Wild idea.

According to the second ammendment of the US Constitution, we already are - but that's the opposite of what the anti's beleive isn't it?

[anygunanywhere]

http://www.txsg.state.tx.us/

Here you go. Not quite what you asked for but this is Texas funded and reports to the governor.

Anygunanywhere

I had looked at this the other day and a thought came to me, but I don't know if it would be possible. What if the gun ban/ confiscation came to pass. Could the governor declare every resident in TX that was legally able to posses a gun, part of the Texas State Guard? Since the members of the TXSG must provide their own firearms and ammunition and are part of the TX military, they would be exempt of all laws concerning "Assault Weapons" for civilians. After all, the military would not have to turn in their "Assault Weapons" and "large capacity" magazines if the proposed Feinstein law were to pass. The whole population of TX would become part of the TX military and not subject to civilian firearm restrictions.

Wild idea.

Not so wild.

Why don't we run this by Governor Perry and AG Abbott?

Sounds like a great idea.

This would actually go a long way to legitimize the term militia here in Texas.

Anygunanywhere

[kman458]

Read USC title 10 section 311

Also Texas Government Code chapter 431
Subchapter A 431.000, 431.010
Subchapter D 431.051
Subchapter F 431.081

[RoyGBiv]

Read USC title 10 section 311

Also Texas Government Code chapter 431
Subchapter A 431.000, 431.010
Subchapter D 431.051
Subchapter F 431.081

When you cite stuff like that, it's polite to provide links
http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/10C13.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... GV.431.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TX could redefine the "Texas Militia" in it's own way by rule of law.
In fact, TX could choose to add an entire new class (see Sec. 431.001) to accomplish the job.

None of this is insurmountable for a determined legislature.

Seems to me to be a rather creative way to flout a Federal ban. Not sure it would stick, but, arresting Federal officers won't stick either and States are working to pass those laws.. Just to make a point.

[The Annoyed Man]

Read USC title 10 section 311
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied
males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section
313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a
declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States
and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the
National Guard.

Here's the problem, and this just my feelings in the matter and I realize that it has no weight of law: I am 60 years old, and I am not entirely able-bodied. So by the above definition, I am no longer a part of the militia; and that breaks my heart because in my mind and my heart, I am very much part of it. I may not be able to run with a carbine and keep up with the young folks, but I have useful skills....not the least of which is being patient with young folks. And I can shoot, and teach others to shoot, but my heavy lifting days are behind me. I find myself at that "old dog" stage of life where the spirit is willing, but the body no longer is, and it is hard to give that up. I don't want to be "just another old man in the rear." If anything, I am more committed today to my love of country than at any other time previously. It bothers me that the U.S. code discriminates against me because of my age, and it bothers me that my age makes me less useful to my country.

[kman458]

Read USC title 10 section 311

Also Texas Government Code chapter 431
Subchapter A 431.000, 431.010
Subchapter D 431.051
Subchapter F 431.081

When you cite stuff like that, it's polite to provide links
http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/10C13.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... GV.431.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TX could redefine the "Texas Militia" in it's own way by rule of law.
In fact, TX could choose to add an entire new class (see Sec. 431.001) to accomplish the job.

None of this is insurmountable for a determined legislature.

Seems to me to be a rather creative way to flout a Federal ban. Not sure it would stick, but, arresting Federal officers won't stick either and States are working to pass those laws.. Just to make a point.

You are right about the links and sorry about that and I normally would but I just got an iPad and are still figuring out how this thing works.

[kman458]

Read USC title 10 section 311
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied
males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section
313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a
declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States
and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the
National Guard.

Here's the problem, and this just my feelings in the matter and I realize that it has no weight of law: I am 60 years old, and I am not entirely able-bodied. So by the above definition, I am no longer a part of the militia; and that breaks my heart because in my mind and my heart, I am very much part of it. I may not be able to run with a carbine and keep up with the young folks, but I have useful skills....not the least of which is being patient with young folks. And I can shoot, and teach others to shoot, but my heavy lifting days are behind me. I find myself at that "old dog" stage of life where the spirit is willing, but the body no longer is, and it is hard to give that up. I don't want to be "just another old man in the rear." If anything, I am more committed today to my love of country than at any other time previously. It bothers me that the U.S. code discriminates against me because of my age, and it bothers me that my age makes me less useful to my country.

I agree totally with what you are saying. I am 54 and feel the same way myself at times. Too young to die and too old to be of any use does sux.

[jocat54]

Read USC title 10 section 311
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied
males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section
313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a
declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States
and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the
National Guard.

Here's the problem, and this just my feelings in the matter and I realize that it has no weight of law: I am 60 years old, and I am not entirely able-bodied. So by the above definition, I am no longer a part of the militia; and that breaks my heart because in my mind and my heart, I am very much part of it. I may not be able to run with a carbine and keep up with the young folks, but I have useful skills....not the least of which is being patient with young folks. And I can shoot, and teach others to shoot, but my heavy lifting days are behind me. I find myself at that "old dog" stage of life where the spirit is willing, but the body no longer is, and it is hard to give that up. I don't want to be "just another old man in the rear." If anything, I am more committed today to my love of country than at any other time previously. It bothers me that the U.S. code discriminates against me because of my age, and it bothers me that my age makes me less useful to my country.

TAM... I really resemble those remarks

My 66 year old body and 20 year old mind don't get along very well anymore.

[mamabearCali]

Thats all right. You salties can train us poor people on your various expertise. I am a good shot with a handgun at 10-25 yards, but I don't know the first thing about rifles or shooting at distance. You are all still valuable. We need teachers.

[mr surveyor]

Read USC title 10 section 311
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied
males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section
313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a
declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States
and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the
National Guard.

Here's the problem, and this just my feelings in the matter and I realize that it has no weight of law: I am 60 years old, and I am not entirely able-bodied. So by the above definition, I am no longer a part of the militia; and that breaks my heart because in my mind and my heart, I am very much part of it. I may not be able to run with a carbine and keep up with the young folks, but I have useful skills....not the least of which is being patient with young folks. And I can shoot, and teach others to shoot, but my heavy lifting days are behind me. I find myself at that "old dog" stage of life where the spirit is willing, but the body no longer is, and it is hard to give that up. I don't want to be "just another old man in the rear." If anything, I am more committed today to my love of country than at any other time previously. It bothers me that the U.S. code discriminates against me because of my age, and it bothers me that my age makes me less useful to my country.

TAM

We can be the "Silver Haired (or no haired) Soldiers"

[anygunanywhere]

I am 58 years old.

I've got a bad back from crushing three lumbar vertabra when I was 16.

I've got a titanium plate in my left leg holding my fibula together.

I've got a titanium implant in my right shoulder joint.

I'm ex-military.

I'm too slow to run.

I'm too tired to wrassle.

I can shoot.

I still have most of my brainpower.

I have all of my will to live.

I am a Texan and an American.

Even if the militia won't take me, I can still hold my own when I am cornered.

I feel good. I am with my brothers and sisters.

Let's roll, TAM!

Anygunanywhere