The Next American Civil War

[OldCannon]

Until 2/3rd of the States ratify a change in the 2A, they aren't taking anything away from me or my family that the constitution grants me to keep.

Princess Feinstein vigorously disagrees with your "flawed logic."

[tomtexan]

What's that saying??? Pry my cold dead fingers........

[eureka40]

Until 2/3rd of the States ratify a change in the 2A, they aren't taking anything away from me or my family that the constitution grants me to keep.

Princess Feinstein vigorously disagrees with your "flawed logic."

Princess Feinstein can vigorously KMA.

[packa45]

Give up your weapons....

To which my response (keeping it family friendly)

COME AND TAKE THEM....

[Skiprr]

I highly doubt anything would happen. People will be more than happy to turn in their guns - look at England and Australia.

Voluntary firearm confiscation will not happen in the United States of America.

My kin have fought in every war this country has waged. From the conflicts of 1775 to the conflicts today in Iraq and Afghanistan.

With all my heart and soul, I believe in and support the Constitution of the United States of America.

With all my heart and soul, I believe in and support the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Molon labe.

[slowpoke]

I highly doubt anything would happen. People will be more than happy to turn in their guns - look at England and Australia.

Voluntary firearm confiscation will not happen in the United States of America.

My kin have fought in every war this country has waged. From the conflicts of 1775 to the conflicts today in Iraq and Afghanistan.

With all my heart and soul, I believe in and support the Constitution of the United States of America.

With all my heart and soul, I believe in and support the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Molon labe.

Amen Brother ,that says it all.

[mgood]

What more needs to be said?

From the article:

These are rights sacred to Americans. These are the rights for which they have been willing to valiantly lay down their lives to protect since the birth of the nation. They are no less ready to put their lives on the line once again. I do not think our current “masters” fully understand that.

[Excaliber]

A democratic congressman's remarks, seen against the backdrop of statements made by others in his party, should help clarify where those folks plan to take the nation.

Read the details here.

Folks who have studied history know that what we're seeing is a step by step repetition of how other nations were subjugated by tyrants and the wholesale murderous acts that followed. Disarming the population was always a mandatory step and an unmistakable harbinger of what was to come.

History students are also acutely conscious that republics last only 200 years and fall by decay from within. We're overdue on time for that fall, and we're not short of the qualifying rot. The Bible doesn't foretell rosy things for the times we're in either. Sober folks will admit that, at best, things aren't looking good.

Tinfoil hats might best be worn by those who refuse to acknowledge what they clearly see happening before their eyes and talk themselves into believing that what happened in all those other places the same way as what they see isn't really happening today because "it couldn't happen here."

[Stupid]

While I do appreciate the tough talk, the history has proven that few if any would actually follow through their tough talks.

I truly wish we were different from the Brits and Australian but if the last ban was of any indication, I don't think so.

[anygunanywhere]

While I do appreciate the tough talk, the history has proven that few if any would actually follow through their tough talks.

I truly wish we were different from the Brits and Australian but if the last ban was of any indication, I don't think so.

Here you go Stupid.

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

They are out there.

Anygunanywhere

[jdhz28]

I always wondered how it would play out...if we didn't willingly turn in our firearms. Would some entity go door to door seeking out and forcibly taking them? If so when they came to my house, I would assume my dogs would get maybe one, I think I may be able to get two or three before they got me. If everyone else thought this way, wouldn't they soon run out of people going door to door to confiscate them? I don't see that day playing out in my lifetime, nor do I see very many of our active law enforcement or military that would be willing to execute that task, so who would do it? The UN maybe? I like those guys, that pastel blue stands out really well and would make a very nice target against that red chevron. If, and I feel it is a big if, that day comes, it will be long into the future. I think now they will focus more on chipping away, via magazine capacity restrictions, types of actions available to civilians, and extreme tax on ammunition. So that when that day comes, it will be all that much easier.

[VMI77]

I never considered myself to be a conspiracy theorist. I have not held in high esteem those who bring forth tin foil hat style arguments but I'm beginning to slip into that abyss.

The President has done a great job of dividing the GOP over the fiscal cliff crisis. I'm beginning to wonder if the idea behind the gun grabbing isn't intended to do the same with the American public. The choice seems to be 1) become completely subservient or 2) become an outlaw. The tin foil hat part of my thinking believes that the fusion centers, detention centers, etc are being designed to deal with the 2nd group. There is no question at all in my mind that if Feinstein and the others had their way, we would be part of a world government. The real open question is to whether they have enough of the American populace sufficiently conditioned to accept that result. Of course, it is going to take a financial collapse to actually bring this direction to fruition but I fear that we are much closer to that than all of the Obama groupies believe.

The conspiracy theory believer part of me believes that that Sandy Hook shooting provided the catalyst for reinstating the gun ban rhetoric. Armed resistance to gun bans would be the catalyst and the excuse for an immediate transition to marshal law. There is no hiding the fact that our President believes it would be easier to govern like the Chinese Communists or Chavez and that he would seize the moment to try to accomplish those results.

Pardon me - I'm now busy opening my next king sized tin foil package.

That's exactly the intent. There is nothing "tin foil" about it. I don't have any pithy quotes at hand, but it's been known throughout history that one of the most effective ways to control people is to make everyone subject to breaking some law through their ordinary conduct. When virtually everything is illegal people are subject to punishment at the whim of authorities; they can be turned for use as informants; they can be rewarded for dirty deeds done on behalf of the State, or they can be destroyed by incarceration and wealth confiscation. There is no need to punish every violation because anybody can be swept up at any time as the need arises.

[VMI77]

I highly doubt anything would happen. People will be more than happy to turn in their guns - look at England and Australia.

Voluntary firearm confiscation will not happen in the United States of America.

My kin have fought in every war this country has waged. From the conflicts of 1775 to the conflicts today in Iraq and Afghanistan.

With all my heart and soul, I believe in and support the Constitution of the United States of America.

With all my heart and soul, I believe in and support the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Molon labe.

For the record, I don't believe voluntary firearm confiscation has truly happened anywhere. The UK is estimated to have millions of illegal weapons, as is every other country in Europe, NZ, and Australia. Years ago I read that some 75% of the estimated long guns in Canada were not registered when registration became the law. I think there is no doubt that a lot of people will turn in their weapons when the government demands it, but a lot, perhaps even a majority, won't.

And none of those countries had a tradition of widespread firearms usage, or a huge military training millions of people in the use of firearms. When they took handguns in the UK there were only 35,000 registered owners. I don't live in a large urban area, but I don't personally know anyone who didn't grow up with guns in the house. There remains a very strong tradition of self-defense in America...unlike in the UK and Europe, where self-defense is essentially illegal. So I don't think we can make any direct comparisons....I think gun grabbing in this country is in completely new territory.