Texas schools teach Boston Tea Party as act of terrorism

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Re: Texas schools teach Boston Tea Party as act of terrorism

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The Godless Commies think the Boston Tea Party was a terrorist act, but then they thought the San Diego Tea Party was, as was the Houston Tea Party, The Oklahoma City Tea Party, the Milwaukee Tea Party and all the rest of them.
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Oldgringo wrote:
baldeagle wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:@ Baldeagle: :roll: "...no other founding fathers but ours". Really? Who started all of the other countries and religions of the world, eh?
It would help if you could actually name one.
Look here for a few.

I don't think either Jesus or Mohammed are on the above list but they would certainly qualify as founding fathers, don't you think?

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And again, you're talking about the rest of the world. WE HERE are talking about the AMERICAN education system, AMERICAN educators, AMERICAN history, AMERICAN taxpayers, and AMERICAN students. I don't really care what happened in Egypt or Papua New Guinea because whatever happened there is totally irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Basically, you picked a fight over an irrelevancy, toss out a "nana nana na na" and then you split. Wow. You really ought to abandon the idea of being a teenager forever.
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mamabearCali wrote:Awww come on people....no one got hurt in the Boston tea party. The best you could maybe go for (from the brits perspective) is vandalism, theft, and destruction of property. In my book in order to qualify for a "terrorist" from any angle the target for destruction has to be people, not tea.

Whoever is teaching this to these kids are idiots of the first order. As a person with a BA in history they are full of garden compost.

In these days and times I highly recommend home school. It is hard, but in most places it seems our schools are more indoctrination centers than education centers and I want my kids to know how to read write and cipher, not sing "Barack Hussein Obama mmmmm mmmmm mmmm."
Actually several people got hurt, even if you don't count the cost of the tea that was destroyed and loss of income to the company and investors, there were sailors on watch on the ships who were assaulted and injured.

That said, the whole thing may have been a protest that got out of hand, although someone had to have planned for it to do so because the Mohawk costumes did not just appear spontaneously.

The original protest meeting was being held at Faneuil Hall and had to be moved to the Old South Meeting House because it grew too large. The protest was primarily about the colonies' feeling that they were not adequately represented in Parliament. Samuel Adams was nominally in charge of the meeting and made a statement, upon notification that Governor Hutchinson would not even allow the tea ships to leave the harbor without paying the duty tax, declared that the meeting could accomplish nothing further. Some took Adams' comment to mean that the time for action was then, and proceeded to depart to conduct the actual "unplanned" physical part of the protest over Adams' objections.

There are those who feel that Adams' "attempt" to quell the crowd actually had more to do with an attempt to place himself in a position where he would be viewed as a moderate on the issues and thus an ideal candidate to be a go between for negotiations.

The hated tax would actually have reduced the price of tea.

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If we fast forward to Libya, it would seem that our government sees a "spontaneous" protest that happens to become violent as something different from an act of terrorism, and if we accept that definition, then our government should not be teaching our kids that the Boston Tea Party was anything more than a spontaneous protest . . .

Wait, there it is "our government should not be teaching our kids" but we let them, and that has always worried me. I don't have a BA in anything, but I learned a lot of history at the feet of grandparents who had a different perspective than that of the schools I attended. In a family of long generations I was one step removed from people who fought in the civil war, who immigrated from England, who grew up in "Indian Country" and such, and as the historian for my branch of the family, I had all of the letters and records from those folks, including ancestors who participated in that rebellion.
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The Annoyed Man wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:
baldeagle wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:@ Baldeagle: :roll: "...no other founding fathers but ours". Really? Who started all of the other countries and religions of the world, eh?
It would help if you could actually name one.
Look here for a few.

I don't think either Jesus or Mohammed are on the above list but they would certainly qualify as founding fathers, don't you think?

nana nana na na! :biggrinjester:

Now, I am really out of here. Night night.
And again, you're talking about the rest of the world. WE HERE are talking about the AMERICAN education system, AMERICAN educators, AMERICAN history, AMERICAN taxpayers, and AMERICAN students. I don't really care what happened in Egypt or Papua New Guinea because whatever happened there is totally irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Basically, you picked a fight over an irrelevancy, toss out a "nana nana na na" and then you split. Wow. You really ought to abandon the idea of being a teenager forever.
And, you might get over yourself, too.

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So we can possibly add minor assault to the some in the demonstration......still not terrorism.......Terrorism is meant to install fear into a large section of the populace, it is meant to demoralize a people, as I understand it the Boston tea party was meant to tell Britain we would not be taxed willy nilly, specifically on tea.
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So, what to do?

Write your Congressman, State Senator, and any and all that will help redress this nonsense!

Other have suggestions to right this Anti-American leftist wrong?

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There is a huge difference between terrorism and rebellion which at most is what the Tea Party was...... then again the left considers Ft Hood work place violence so I just take it from the source, unfortunately they are attempting to brain wash generations of children with this garbage and will get away with it.....
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Oldgringo wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:
baldeagle wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:@ Baldeagle: :roll: "...no other founding fathers but ours". Really? Who started all of the other countries and religions of the world, eh?
It would help if you could actually name one.
Look here for a few.

I don't think either Jesus or Mohammed are on the above list but they would certainly qualify as founding fathers, don't you think?

nana nana na na! :biggrinjester:

Now, I am really out of here. Night night.
And again, you're talking about the rest of the world. WE HERE are talking about the AMERICAN education system, AMERICAN educators, AMERICAN history, AMERICAN taxpayers, and AMERICAN students. I don't really care what happened in Egypt or Papua New Guinea because whatever happened there is totally irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Basically, you picked a fight over an irrelevancy, toss out a "nana nana na na" and then you split. Wow. You really ought to abandon the idea of being a teenager forever.
And, you might get over yourself, too.
You threw the first punch. To quote yourself, "dont start none, and there won't be none."
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You know what that disgusting smell is? The one that is all sickly sweet and nauseating? It clings to you and you can't hardly get the smell out, no matter how hard you try and wash it away? Its the decaying smell of MORAL RELATIVISM, the idea that all viewpoints are equally valid, that one person's rebellion is another's terrorist act...because moral relativism does not take INTENT into account, in fact it REFUSES to take intent into account...and its a foundational item for the political left...and they LOVE it.
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Heartland Patriot wrote:You know what that disgusting smell is? The one that is all sickly sweet and nauseating? It clings to you and you can't hardly get the smell out, no matter how hard you try and wash it away? Its the decaying smell of MORAL RELATIVISM, the idea that all viewpoints are equally valid, that one person's rebellion is another's terrorist act...because moral relativism does not take INTENT into account, in fact it REFUSES to take intent into account...and its a foundational item for the political left...and they LOVE it.
Is this what you are referring to? Yep, that's pretty bad stuff, alright. It's my way or the highway, right?
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The Annoyed Man wrote: {snip}
You threw the first punch. To quote yourself, "dont start none, and there won't be none."
I didn't realize that a punch had been thrown. I apologize and won't question your, and/or others, learned posts no more. Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

I've voted for every Republican POTUS candidate starting with Goldwater in '64 and was baptised in the First Baptist Church in Metropolis, IL almost 60 years ago. My Momma told me, among other things, not to be a moral relativist but I wouldn't listen. :oops: Woe is me! Momma tried....
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AndyC wrote:
baldeagle wrote:No other nation on earth was founded by free men seeking to form a government that honored the rights of every individual regardless of their background, their station in life or their political persuasion.
France.
Yes, France comes close. But their legal system takes them down a notch. Even though their bill of rights says you are innocent until proven guilty, their legal system does just the opposite. They also don't have a bill of rights that protects speech and religion and the ownership of guns. For example, the freedom of speech is subject to such abuses as are defined by law. That's no freedom at all. Freedoms cannot be circumscribed by laws. Even if the people allow the legislature to pass such laws, they are null and void, and a free citizen is not required to obey them. Only by force can the state enforce the loss of rights. That is what makes the American system stand apart from the rest. All other systems subjugate the rights of the citizens to the law.
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baldeagle wrote:
AndyC wrote:
baldeagle wrote:No other nation on earth was founded by free men seeking to form a government that honored the rights of every individual regardless of their background, their station in life or their political persuasion.
France.
Yes, France comes close. But their legal system takes them down a notch. Even though their bill of rights says you are innocent until proven guilty, their legal system does just the opposite. They also don't have a bill of rights that protects speech and religion and the ownership of guns. For example, the freedom of speech is subject to such abuses as are defined by law. That's no freedom at all. Freedoms cannot be circumscribed by laws. Even if the people allow the legislature to pass such laws, they are null and void, and a free citizen is not required to obey them. Only by force can the state enforce the loss of rights. That is what makes the American system stand apart from the rest. All other systems subjugate the rights of the citizens to the law.
You mean like free speech zones?
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