UN to Monitor Elections in Texas

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Fox had AG Abbott on and he reiterated what he said in his letter. If they get within 100 ft of a polling place they are breaking the law. I think the target for these goons is Houston.[/quote]

Houston is to far for me..but i will be watching our polling center

I plan on a visit to our sheriff to see what he has planned.....
we are pretty rural here so i bet he is already putting a pan in the fire to handle it
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Bob in Big D wrote:
Dave2 wrote: Fox News reported on OSCE's reply earlier today. I forget their exact wording, but OSCE is not happy and not amused... IIRC, they essentially said "bring it on". TX had better not back down if this group tries anything illegal.
Fox had AG Abbott on and he reiterated what he said in his letter. If they get within 100 ft of a polling place they are breaking the law. I think the target for these goons is Houston.
I'm sure members of the Texas Guard are more than willing to ensure the laws of our state are followed.
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Citizens Arrest ... Citizens arrest ... where's that CHL badge when I need one :biggrinjester:
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Sheriff Wallace W. Riddell wouldn't have hesitated to arrest a blue helmet.
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Legend has it that ...
When the FBI came to Burnet wanting to arrest Benny Binion (of Binions Gambling Casinos etc) Sheriff Wallace W. Riddell sent the FBI home and advised them they wouldn't be doing that in his County
(This above was told to me by my dad)...
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and dad bought property in Burnet in the 1960s ... I knew Sheriff Wallace W. Riddell personally myself.
His relatives say he *never* wore a gun, and there was a big hullaballoo about there being one on the statue, so his hand covered it ... but IIRC, I saw him wearing one once in a western holster ... like they have at the Burnet Saloon Shootout show for the Steam train for visitors some weekends.... could have been a "dress gun" like for a parade, but my memory says I saw it once in the 1960s, and a horse, so I'm thinking parade. ;-)
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Dave2 wrote:Fox News reported on OSCE's reply earlier today. I forget their exact wording, but OSCE is not happy and not amused... IIRC, they essentially said "bring it on". TX had better not back down if this group tries anything illegal.
My roommate says he remembers (most of) the quote being, "the threat of legal action is unacceptable", which sounds to me like they're planning on doing their thing regardless of its legality.

This could be an interesting election day...
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I just can't get that Tar & Feathers idea to go away! :biggrinjester:
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Will Mayor Bloomberg and the Pepsi Police be here too?
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I heard on the radio this morning that there are suppose to be 3 teams in San Antonio , Bexar County. I think they said there were 12 teams in TX?

I'm not positive on any of this...it was about 6.00am, I don't normally see 6.00, I was heading out to BAMC again.
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His choice of words is leaving Abbot an out:
Abbott's letter concludes: "It may be a criminal offense for OSCE's representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place's entrance. Failure to comply with these requirements could subject the OSCE's representatives to criminal prosecution for violating state law."--http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/10/24/51604.htm
This is either a violation of the law or it isnt, and breaking the law SHALLsubject the violator to arrest and prosecution. The way things have been shoved down our throats, I wouldnt be surprised if the UN ends up doing whatever it wants. :mad5
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SewTexas wrote:I heard on the radio this morning that there are suppose to be 3 teams in San Antonio , Bexar County. I think they said there were 12 teams in TX?

I'm not positive on any of this...it was about 6.00am, I don't normally see 6.00, I was heading out to BAMC again.
heh heh, they are brave enough to go to large *Sanctuary Cities* but too skeerd to come out to smaller Counties which are solid Red Republican Counties where we shoot rattlesnakes, wild boars and eat them. Can't blame them, backwoods fellows like Davy Crockett and Dan'l Boone chased off fellows from another country once.


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Jim Beaux wrote:His choice of words is leaving Abbot an out:
Abbott's letter concludes: "It may be a criminal offense for OSCE's representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place's entrance. Failure to comply with these requirements could subject the OSCE's representatives to criminal prosecution for violating state law."--http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/10/24/51604.htm
This is either a violation of the law or it isnt, and breaking the law SHALLsubject the violator to arrest and prosecution. The way things have been shoved down our throats, I wouldnt be surprised if the UN ends up doing whatever it wants. :mad5
I've been searching Texas Statutes for the one that clearly defines the law that any UN observer would be breaking.
I have not yet found it.

All I can find is the election code that clearly describes why an international observer is not allowed. This language is unambiguous (see below). But, I don't find any penalty for an ineligible person attempting to be a "watcher". I further find it curious that the TX AG didn't provide a specific reference to the law on his threat of arrest of UN observers within 100 feet of a polling place.

If anyone can provide the code citations, they would be appreciated.

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/EL/3/33/B/33.031" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(a) To be eligible to serve as a watcher, a person must be a qualified voter:
(1) of the county in which the person is to serve, in an election ordered by the governor or a county authority or in a primary election;
(2) of the part of the county in which the election is held, in an election ordered by the governor or a county authority that does not cover the entire county of the person's residence; and
(3) of the political subdivision, in an election ordered by an authority of a political subdivision other than a county.
(b) The Alcoholic Beverage Code supersedes this section to the extent of any conflict.
ETA:
There is a long list of defined election violations in this document on pages 10 and 11. In my opinion, it would be a stretch to apply any of these to a UN observer just standing around outside a polling place.
http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/[abbreviated profanity deleted] ... er2012.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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RoyGBiv wrote: In my opinion, it would be a stretch to apply any of these to a UN observer just standing around outside a polling place.
If anyone can stretch it and make it stick, AG Abbott is our man.

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anygunanywhere wrote:
RoyGBiv wrote: In my opinion, it would be a stretch to apply any of these to a UN observer just standing around outside a polling place.
If anyone can stretch it and make it stick, AG Abbott is our man.

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DEB wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
RoyGBiv wrote: In my opinion, it would be a stretch to apply any of these to a UN observer just standing around outside a polling place.
If anyone can stretch it and make it stick, AG Abbott is our man.

Anygunanywhere
I pray we still have some Texas leaders that will show some good old Texan leadership. I also believe Texas has some, if not probably most, Law Enforcement Officers that would jump at the chance to handcuff some of them UN interlopers. :txflag:
If AG Abbott stands up to them he will be our next Govenor!
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Bob in Big D wrote:
DEB wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
RoyGBiv wrote: In my opinion, it would be a stretch to apply any of these to a UN observer just standing around outside a polling place.
If anyone can stretch it and make it stick, AG Abbott is our man.

Anygunanywhere
I pray we still have some Texas leaders that will show some good old Texan leadership. I also believe Texas has some, if not probably most, Law Enforcement Officers that would jump at the chance to handcuff some of them UN interlopers. :txflag:
If AG Abbott stands up to them he will be our next Govenor!

I've met and visited with him on several ocassions, I would vote for him in a heartbeat.
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