‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'......

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speedsix wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:Fox is now reporting that the WH is asserting Executive Privilege

...http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/20/ju ... -involved/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
tomneal wrote:Well that article was interesting.
Napolitano concluded, “If the president was not personally involved, executive privilege doesn’t apply. If the president was personally involved, and they want to argue that fighting drug gangs at the border is a matter of sensitive national security, then they at least have an argument for executive privilege but that would be at odds with what Attorney General Holder has already testified to under oath.”
According to Judge Napolitano if Executive Privilege applies then Attorney General Holder lied to congress.
Chris Wallace says it could just mean a presidential aide was involved. In my mind, that's still a presidential lead worth pursuing, but if Mr. Wallace is right, it's (unfortunately) not the sure-fire link that Mr. Napolitano thinks it is.
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Dave2 wrote:
speedsix wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:Fox is now reporting that the WH is asserting Executive Privilege

...http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/20/ju ... -involved/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
tomneal wrote:Well that article was interesting.
Napolitano concluded, “If the president was not personally involved, executive privilege doesn’t apply. If the president was personally involved, and they want to argue that fighting drug gangs at the border is a matter of sensitive national security, then they at least have an argument for executive privilege but that would be at odds with what Attorney General Holder has already testified to under oath.”
According to Judge Napolitano if Executive Privilege applies then Attorney General Holder lied to congress.
Chris Wallace says it could just mean a presidential aide was involved. In my mind, that's still a presidential lead worth pursuing, but if Mr. Wallace is right, it's (unfortunately) not the sure-fire link that Mr. Napolitano thinks it is.
They've had eight months to declare executive privileged if there really was a basis for it. This is just the last option they have left to keep the truth hidden.
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How can Holder claim "Executive Privilege" on behalf of Obama for an operation both claim they knew nothing about?
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NRA Applauds Passage of U.S. House Committee Resolution Recommending that the House Find Attorney General Holder in Contempt of Congress
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I'm impressed. Wasn't sure they were going to go through with recommending contempt.

I think Obama evoking executive privilege probably did more to spur on the contempt charges then hush this up like they hoped it would. I'm glad they kicked the hornets nest and confirmed they have something to hide.

Now we just have to find enough evidence to start throwing some people in jail. (yeah right, but a guy can dream!)
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74novaman wrote:Now we just have to find enough evidence to start throwing some people in jail. (yeah right, but a guy can dream!)
I'm sure Holder will get pardoned if it comes to that. Hmm... Can Obama pardon himself?
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Dave2 wrote:
74novaman wrote:Now we just have to find enough evidence to start throwing some people in jail. (yeah right, but a guy can dream!)
I'm sure Holder will get pardoned if it comes to that. Hmm... Can Obama pardon himself?
Obama can do anything he wants apparently. until January.
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sjfcontrol wrote:approved 23/17
Fox's headline graphic makes me happy...
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The Annoyed Man wrote:Sheila Jackson Lee blames Bush for Fast and Furious

That hag is crazy.
Why is she calling him "General Holder"?
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Dave2 wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:approved 23/17
Fox's headline graphic makes me happy...
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...it's about TIME they catch up with the majority of Americans...millions have held him in contempt for a LOOOOOONG TIME...

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sjfcontrol wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:Sheila Jackson Lee blames Bush for Fast and Furious

That hag is crazy.
Why is she calling him "General Holder"?
Not that Sheila Jackson isn't worthy of mockery & ridicule, but I'm sure she just forgot to say "Attorney" first.
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Dave2 wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:Sheila Jackson Lee blames Bush for Fast and Furious

That hag is crazy.
Why is she calling him "General Holder"?
Not that Sheila Jackson isn't worthy of mockery & ridicule, but I'm sure she just forgot to say "Attorney" first.
Several times -- I think she thinks he's an actual "General".
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