Mitt Romney is addressing the National Rifle Association

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Ron Paul, is my favorite, however, he is not pragmatic and diplomatic. He is too honest to be a politician. He says it like it is. Cut deficit or USA will break up into many regions with social unrest real social unrest a possibility. To have a test run just look at Greece and Iceland. Also, Ron Paul may save USA from being a failing empire like the British empire in late 1800s. The Military is geting too big to be sustainable for the long run. Heath care and social security and social welfare is what will destroy US.
A Polarized economy would also destroy America. Only balanced Budget, balanced economy and energy independent would save USA. No Rep or Dem can deliver a fix. A fix has to built ground up, all across left and right,
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Re: Mitt Romney is addressing the National Rifle Association

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AEA wrote:
O.F.Fascist wrote: In the primary I will vote for a state and gun rights supporting Texan who actually served his country, Ron Paul.
If you do that......you may as well just vote for Obama......it's the same thing as far as your vote is concerned.
No it isn't.
There are three basic types of Republicans.
Conservative.
Country Club establishment
libertarians.

It won't hurt to remind Romney that there is a libertarian faction that is serious about a smaller government.
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[quote="O.F.Fascist]Only way you will have a chance to beat Obama is with Paul.

Wrong. Don't believe the liberal media when it tells you Romney can't beat Obama.
Romney is just another rich white out of touch liberal, he just happens to be running in the Republican primary. He doesn't have dedicated and motivated supports like Paul does.

Ron Paul is a racist anti-semite crazy dingbat. Romney isn't a conservative but he's a republican running against a marxist. I'm not getting out the vote "for Romney" but Against Obama. Ron doesn't stand a chance.

I do agree that the only way to beat Obama is for us to stick together, however there is a not insignificant number of Paul supporters who will not vote for any other Republican candidate. They could either not vote at all, vote 3rd party, or worse vote for Obama. So the question to ask is how serious are you and other Republican primary voters about defeating Obama, if you want those votes you need Ron Paul.

People who, "might stay home and cry or might vote for Obama if they don't get their way", need to re-examine their life, and the direction the country is headed in under Obama.

You can cry, when Romney loses in November that those Paul supporters should have voted for Romney but that wont change the fact, it is what it is.

For all the people who complain about the "trouble" Paul supporters cause, wouldn't you rather have them on your side causing that trouble for Obama. If Paul is the candidate, that will be the case.[/quote]

Trouble causing cry babies? Sounds like those wall street protesters/Obama voters.
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Re: Mitt Romney is addressing the National Rifle Association

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Dragonfighter wrote:
AEA wrote:
O.F.Fascist wrote: In the primary I will vote for a state and gun rights supporting Texan who actually served his country, Ron Paul.
If you do that......you may as well just vote for Obama......it's the same thing as far as your vote is concerned.
Curious, how is voting for who you want in the primary the same as voting for Obama?
Do you really expect Romney supporters to understand complicated things like the difference between primary elections and general elections?

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FishInTx wrote:Ron Paul is a racist anti-semite crazy dingbat. Romney isn't a conservative but he's a republican running against a marxist. I'm not getting out the vote "for Romney" but Against Obama. Ron doesn't stand a chance.
Care to back that up with something?

He supports Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/ ... 4sRctXLmB0

Just because he wants to cut foreign aid to all nations, Israel included, does not make him an anti-semite. Israel is a modern nation, not some third world country, they should be able to take care of themselves. Europe as well, we should not be subsidizing their national defense. If the Europeans want our troops there to protect them they should be paying at least some of the cost of keeping us there.

As a Texan my primary concerns are our 2nd amendment rights and the right of our state to govern itself without the interference of the federal government. Ron Paul is the only one who I could count on to support those issues. However if you choose to go ahead and rubber stamp Romney in the primary for no good reason that is your choice.

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:iagree: in the Republican primary, a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama. He's the one whose policies are closest to Obama and there's a lot of overlap. No wonder so many Democats voted for him in the open Republican primaries.

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O.F.Fascist wrote:
FishInTx wrote:Ron Paul is a racist anti-semite crazy dingbat. Romney isn't a conservative but he's a republican running against a marxist. I'm not getting out the vote "for Romney" but Against Obama. Ron doesn't stand a chance.
Care to back that up with something?

You don't remember any racist or anti-semetic newsletters from the mid 80's to 2001? Oh, wait..Ron is that you?

He supports Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/ ... 4sRctXLmB0

Just because he wants to cut foreign aid to all nations, Israel included, does not make him an anti-semite. Israel is a modern nation, not some third world country, they should be able to take care of themselves. Europe as well, we should not be subsidizing their national defense. If the Europeans want our troops there to protect them they should be paying at least some of the cost of keeping us there.

The economic situation we find ourselves in demands that we scrutinze all foreign aid, but not even close to what Ron is proposing. Disastrous foreign policy.

As a Texan my primary concerns are our 2nd amendment rights and the right of our state to govern itself without the interference of the federal government. Ron Paul is the only one who I could count on to support those issues. However if you choose to go ahead and rubber stamp Romney in the primary for no good reason that is your choice.

I have a good reason to vote for Romney. He's not Obama, and not a racist or an anti-semite. Romney will support the issues you mention especially with a republican house and senate.

Ron Paul's delegate count is at 52. Come on, the anamatedbanana has more than that. There's no reason to vote for Ron Paul. :anamatedbanana

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FishInTx wrote: I have a good reason to vote for Romney. He's not Obama
That would be a good reason to vote for Romney in the general election. That alone is hardly a good reason to vote for him in the primary, out of all of the candidates still left in the race Romney is the one who is closest to Obama on the issues.
Romney will support the issues you mention especially with a republican house and senate.
That remains to be seen, given Romney history of flip flopping I cannot trust anything he claims to stand for. Obviously he would be a better choice than Obama on gun rights, but I cannot trust Romney enough to vote for him in the primary. If by some miracle Romney does become our next President I still wouldn't trust him to support gun rights if they became unpopular.

I also do not think Romney is a strong state's right supporter.

If he wanted an easy out on the Romneycare all he would have to say is that it is a state's right issue. There is a big difference between the people of any given state choosing to make their state government responsible for something vs the federal government imposing something on all of us. Yet I have never heard Romney mention state's rights, therefore the only conclusion I can draw from that is that he is just another big government liberal Republican who honestly doesn't even consider that.
There's no reason to vote for Ron Paul.
If nothing else I think a protest vote against Romney is a good reason.
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O.F.Fascist wrote:
FishInTx wrote: I have a good reason to vote for Romney. He's not Obama
That would be a good reason to vote for Romney in the general election. That alone is hardly a good reason to vote for him in the primary, out of all of the candidates still left in the race Romney is the one who is closest to Obama on the issues.
Romney will support the issues you mention especially with a republican house and senate.
That remains to be seen, given Romney history of flip flopping I cannot trust anything he claims to stand for. Obviously he would be a better choice than Obama on gun rights, but I cannot trust Romney enough to vote for him in the primary. If by some miracle Romney does become our next President I still wouldn't trust him to support gun rights if they became unpopular.

I also do not think Romney is a strong state's right supporter.

If he wanted an easy out on the Romneycare all he would have to say is that it is a state's right issue. There is a big difference between the people of any given state choosing to make their state government responsible for something vs the federal government imposing something on all of us. Yet I have never heard Romney mention state's rights, therefore the only conclusion I can draw from that is that he is just another big government liberal Republican who honestly doesn't even consider that.
There's no reason to vote for Ron Paul.
If nothing else I think a protest vote against Romney is a good reason.
I'm curious who you, "O.F.Fascist", voted for/against in 2008? It doesn't matter now but you know, inquiring minds....
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Well, just for a little comic relief, this picture of Dick Cheney giving Obama the stink eye pretty much sums up how I feel about him:

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The Annoyed Man wrote:Well, just for a little comic relief, this picture of Dick Cheney giving Obama the stink eye pretty much sums up how I feel about him:

:mrgreen:
Good one! :iagree: ; however, there's no one I've been overly fond of in Washington for some time now.

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Oldgringo wrote: I'm curious who you, "O.F.Fascist", voted for/against in 2008? It doesn't matter now but you know, inquiring minds....
Paul in the primary, McCain in the general.

I would have voted for McCain in the primary if Paul was not in the race. There are things that I do not agree with McCain about but I at least respect that he served his country, which I feel is important.

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O.F.Fascist wrote:
Oldgringo wrote: I'm curious who you, "O.F.Fascist", voted for/against in 2008? It doesn't matter now but you know, inquiring minds....
Paul in the primary, McCain in the general.
Me too.

:headscratch Hmmm...you may be alright, afterall?
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The Annoyed Man wrote:Well, just for a little comic relief, this picture of Dick Cheney giving Obama the stink eye pretty much sums up how I feel about him:

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That look says "I wish I hadn't already used my get-away-with-shooting-someone-in-the-face-free card."
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MasterOfNone wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:Well, just for a little comic relief, this picture of Dick Cheney giving Obama the stink eye pretty much sums up how I feel about him:

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:mrgreen:
That look says "I wish I hadn't already used my get-away-with-shooting-someone-in-the-face-free card."
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