US Senate race - Texas 2012

[powerboatr]

Stand back for a moment and look at Cruz and the policies he is espousing. He may be popular amongst the tea party folks, but his election would likely further marginalize any influence that the state of Texas has in Washington, and that would do us little good.

thats why we need to secede.

my plan
we tell DC to pack sand and we go back to being the Republic of Texas.
wait
we also bring in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida . Of course we would need to help Nm, because they would get lost
we would need a republic referendum to allow Georgia and the Carolina s in.
then we tariff all petroleum products headed for the other states, at 10%. And for the following Illinois, Michigan, Rhode Island, Vermont, California, Virginia, Tennessee, Ohio,Maryland, Colorado,Massachusetts , Washington, and Oregon its an additional 15%.
Food crops will be a modest 5%
We close the airspace above out new republic. We close our new borders, including the Mexico one for the time being. We also take as spoils of war all incoming imports from Mexico bound for other places
we outlaw ehtanol
make natural gas filling locations a priority along with conversions for gasoline vehicles now to be bi-fueled.
All Federal offices occupied in the new zone will be vacated at once, the employees will be allowed to stay if they are Native Texans, imports will be a asked to take serious Texas history exam before being allowed to stay.
we implement a straight across the board 8% flat tax, for 5 years, then scale back to 6% on all sales to fund our new Republic.
then of course the current sales tax would go away.
have to work out the property tax issues...but its a winner
just a start.

[JP171]

Stand back for a moment and look at Cruz and the policies he is espousing. He may be popular amongst the tea party folks, but his election would likely further marginalize any influence that the state of Texas has in Washington, and that would do us little good.

thats why we need to secede.

my plan
we tell DC to pack sand and we go back to being the Republic of Texas.
wait
we also bring in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida . Of course we would need to help Nm, because they would get lost
we would need a republic referendum to allow Georgia and the Carolina s in.
then we tariff all petroleum products headed for the other states, at 10%. And for the following Illinois, Michigan, Rhode Island, Vermont, California, Virginia, Tennessee, Ohio,Maryland, Colorado,Massachusetts , Washington, and Oregon its an additional 15%.
Food crops will be a modest 5%
We close the airspace above out new republic. We close our new borders, including the Mexico one for the time being. We also take as spoils of war all incoming imports from Mexico bound for other places
we outlaw ehtanol
make natural gas filling locations a priority along with conversions for gasoline vehicles now to be bi-fueled.
All Federal offices occupied in the new zone will be vacated at once, the employees will be allowed to stay if they are Native Texans, imports will be a asked to take serious Texas history exam before being allowed to stay.
we implement a straight across the board 8% flat tax, for 5 years, then scale back to 6% on all sales to fund our new Republic.
then of course the current sales tax would go away.
have to work out the property tax issues...but its a winner
just a start.

its also a pipe dream that the fed will never allow to happen, remember Mr. Lincoln set a precedent when he began the civil war to disallow the states to secede from the united states and therefore made it defacto illegal for any state or commwealth territory to attemp to leave the union. even being his actions were illegal. so dream away and realize unless we want a civil war we are stuck with the united states of Obama

[texasmusic]

Stand back for a moment and look at Cruz and the policies he is espousing. He may be popular amongst the tea party folks, but his election would likely further marginalize any influence that the state of Texas has in Washington, and that would do us little good.

thats why we need to secede.

my plan
we tell DC to pack sand and we go back to being the Republic of Texas.
wait
we also bring in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida . Of course we would need to help Nm, because they would get lost
we would need a republic referendum to allow Georgia and the Carolina s in.
then we tariff all petroleum products headed for the other states, at 10%. And for the following Illinois, Michigan, Rhode Island, Vermont, California, Virginia, Tennessee, Ohio,Maryland, Colorado,Massachusetts , Washington, and Oregon its an additional 15%.
Food crops will be a modest 5%
We close the airspace above out new republic. We close our new borders, including the Mexico one for the time being. We also take as spoils of war all incoming imports from Mexico bound for other places
we outlaw ehtanol
make natural gas filling locations a priority along with conversions for gasoline vehicles now to be bi-fueled.
All Federal offices occupied in the new zone will be vacated at once, the employees will be allowed to stay if they are Native Texans, imports will be a asked to take serious Texas history exam before being allowed to stay.
we implement a straight across the board 8% flat tax, for 5 years, then scale back to 6% on all sales to fund our new Republic.
then of course the current sales tax would go away.
have to work out the property tax issues...but its a winner
just a start.

I like the sales tax. Throw a flat income tax on top of that to fund our national expenses and away we go. As long as the income tax covers the money that goes through the DC merry-go-round and comes back to us we should be alright. We could save some by killing programs mandated by the feds that I don't think we would have otherwise. (food stamps) Small standing military and a state-wide militia of the Swiss variety with a few modifications.

edit: And move the capitol back to Old Washington. Quarantine Austin... barbed wire land mines etc...

[powerboatr]

its also a pipe dream that the fed will never allow to happen, remember Mr. Lincoln set a precedent when he began the civil war to disallow the states to secede from the united states and therefore made it defacto illegal for any state or commwealth territory to attemp to leave the union. even being his actions were illegal. so dream away and realize unless we want a civil war we are stuck with the united states of Obama


its only illegal in the eyes of the federal government, they could not enforce or even act if it happened.
laws are great....who is going to enforce it? We have our guardsman and troops to.
would the fed blockade the gulf? not likely, as we would turn off the fuel, and we own a huge part of the strategic petroleum reserve

if a second term gets through....I am laying odds that we may have a repeat of Mr. Lincolns war to some extent

[O.F.Fascist]

Judge: Texas should plan on May 29 primary

IMO this is a good thing, gives the non-incumbent candidates more time to get their name out there, and spread their message.

[MikeJ]

Judge: Texas should plan on May 29 primary

IMO this is a good thing, gives the non-incumbent candidates more time to get their name out there, and spread their message.

IMHO, the redistricting litigation is a Communist plot to prevent conservative Texas from having any say in the Republican Party's choice of a presidential candidate. (I use Communist and Democrat interchangeably. ) And the title of this thread should be "Will Texas have a U.S. Senate race in 2012?" As the Caller story says, the redistricting disputes, and therefore the dates for any elections, still aren't settled.

[Liberty]

Judge: Texas should plan on May 29 primary

IMO this is a good thing, gives the non-incumbent candidates more time to get their name out there, and spread their message.

IMHO, the redistricting litigation is a Communist plot to prevent conservative Texas from having any say in the Republican Party's choice of a presidential candidate. (I use Communist and Democrat interchangeably. ) And the title of this thread should be "Will Texas have a U.S. Senate race in 2012?" As the Caller story says, the redistricting disputes, and therefore the dates for any elections, still aren't settled.

While I believe that it may be the intent, Delaying the election may well have the opposite resuls. It very well could result in having the The Texas election determining who the Repubublican nominee will be by giving us the last word on the candidates.

[MikeJ]

Judge: Texas should plan on May 29 primary

IMO this is a good thing, gives the non-incumbent candidates more time to get their name out there, and spread their message.

IMHO, the redistricting litigation is a Communist plot to prevent conservative Texas from having any say in the Republican Party's choice of a presidential candidate. (I use Communist and Democrat interchangeably. ) And the title of this thread should be "Will Texas have a U.S. Senate race in 2012?" As the Caller story says, the redistricting disputes, and therefore the dates for any elections, still aren't settled.

While I believe that it may be the intent, Delaying the election may well have the opposite resuls. It very well could result in having the The Texas election determining who the Repubublican nominee will be by giving us the last word on the candidates.

I certainly hope you're right, Liberty. I'm afraid that a conservative candidate who might have benefited from a strong showing in our primary will drop out of the race before we're allowed to have one. Of course, if the "minority groups" can drag their lawsuit out past November 6, Texas would have no voice in the presidential election at all.

[J.R.@A&M]

Stand back for a moment and look at Cruz and the policies he is espousing. He may be popular amongst the tea party folks, but his election would likely further marginalize any influence that the state of Texas has in Washington, and that would do us little good.

thats why we need to secede.

my plan
we tell DC to pack sand and we go back to being the Republic of Texas.
wait
we also bring in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida . Of course we would need to help Nm, because they would get lost
we would need a republic referendum to allow Georgia and the Carolina s in.
then we tariff all petroleum products headed for the other states, at 10%. And for the following Illinois, Michigan, Rhode Island, Vermont, California, Virginia, Tennessee, Ohio,Maryland, Colorado,Massachusetts , Washington, and Oregon its an additional 15%.
Food crops will be a modest 5%
We close the airspace above out new republic. We close our new borders, including the Mexico one for the time being. We also take as spoils of war all incoming imports from Mexico bound for other places
we outlaw ehtanol
make natural gas filling locations a priority along with conversions for gasoline vehicles now to be bi-fueled.
All Federal offices occupied in the new zone will be vacated at once, the employees will be allowed to stay if they are Native Texans, imports will be a asked to take serious Texas history exam before being allowed to stay.
we implement a straight across the board 8% flat tax, for 5 years, then scale back to 6% on all sales to fund our new Republic.
then of course the current sales tax would go away.
have to work out the property tax issues...but its a winner
just a start.

Sorry for being late with this discussion, but let me get this straight... The new Gulf States of America plus OK/NM will no longer have interstate relations with the main sources of our groceries (the Midwest and California). We effectively cut off trade with Mexico, and further decrease our competitiveness by making our exports more expensive. Our regional roads, military bases, airports, and ports are no longer subsidized by federal tax dollars. We restrict air transportation over us (and likely hinder it to/from us). Sounds like we **would** go back to being the Republic of Texas, at least in our economy and our diet.

[2firfun50]

You good folks may want to look who Ted Cruz has been snuggling up with since 2008. Looks to me like he may have renounced his Tx citizenship. Big Phillie based, international law firm doesn't sound very texan to me.

[gdanaher]

I personally am not fond of any of the candidates who are running for the Senate, but Cruz seems to be pandering to the dumbest of the dumb. Why should we support someone who is prepared to sell the nation and the state out for high legal fees? I'm sure there is more to that story, including the fact that everyone is entitled to good representation, but you don't represent foreign interests at the same time as you run for Senate. If this is an indication of level of intelligence and good judgement, we should be voting for Pee Wee Herman.

[EconDoc]

Stand back for a moment and look at Cruz and the policies he is espousing. He may be popular amongst the tea party folks, but his election would likely further marginalize any influence that the state of Texas has in Washington, and that would do us little good.

The only way for Texas to be "liked" in DC would be to elect somebody who will vote in lockstep with Feinstein, Schumer, Boxer, and company. Is that the kind of influence we want? It certainly won't divert this nation from its march towards totalitarian government nor will that sort of senator (nor a "moderate" compromiser) protect our gun rights, help to keep more anti-gun Obama appointees off of the Supreme Court and lower courts, or prevent ratification of some UN anti-gun treaty.

The Senate may be the most crucial election of 2012. If we can get enough conservatives in the Senate to be "cloture proof", then we have a chance to, at least, throw a monkey wrench in the leftist machinery.

[RoyGBiv]

we outlaw ethanol

I hope you mean "in gasoline" and not in bourbon.
That would be a shame, and difficult to support.

[2firfun50]

"divert this nation from its march towards totalitarian government" [/quote]

If we are really serious about stopping the march toward totalitarian government, as a start , the Patriot Act must go, the TSA has to be gutted, and any language in law that allows "warrantless searches" must be removed. We have to put on our big girl/boy britches and quit being afraid of everything. But alas, I think it is too late.

[O.F.Fascist]

I personally am not fond of any of the candidates who are running for the Senate, but Cruz seems to be pandering to the dumbest of the dumb. Why should we support someone who is prepared to sell the nation and the state out for high legal fees? I'm sure there is more to that story, including the fact that everyone is entitled to good representation, but you don't represent foreign interests at the same time as you run for Senate. If this is an indication of level of intelligence and good judgement, we should be voting for Pee Wee Herman.

Here is Cruz's response to Dewhurst's claims.

http://www.tedcruz.org/dewhursts-china- ... the-facts/

Below is probably the best one that covers it.

Ted works for a large law firm, with over 1,200 lawyers all over the world. The firm represents thousands of clients in tens of thousands of matters. One of those cases is a private civil lawsuit among several commercial tire companies, one of which is based in China. After that company was hit with a $26 million judgment, it hired the firm where Ted works to handle the appeal.

There is also this.

Again, Ted did not argue this appeal. He did however, argue, before the U.S. Supreme Court, a major case involving a stolen U.S. patent. Global Tech v. SEB. Ted represented a large manufacturer before the U.S. Supreme Court against a Chinese company that had stolen a U.S. patent. At Ted’s urging, the Court, 8-1, upheld a $5 million verdict against the Chinese counterfeiter and adopted a strict legal standard against those who misappropriate U.S. intellectual property.

As for your Pew Wee Herman comment, FWIW most Republicans will likely be voting for Romney so there is that.