Mitt Romney talks about gun control in 2007

[The Annoyed Man]

ObamaCare ... allowed an Opt-Out

Not really. Beginning in 2013, the IRS will begin fining me $225/month for not having any insurance. I can't afford insurance because I am self employed, in this economy, and I don't earn enough to get it, and because of several pre-existing conditions for which most insurance companies have rejected me. Believe me, I've tried. Since I have too much in the way of assets (own my home free and clear, and nice retirement investment nest egg), I am not eligible for the public dole—not that I would accept it even if I were. My total annual medical care costs me less than $2,000/year—all dr.'s office visits, prescriptions, and lab tests included—but the absolute cheapest insurance I can get (Texas High Risk Pool) would cost me $543/month, has a $7,500 deductible plus $5,000 out of pocket for a total expenditure of $19,500/year before I actually have any coverage......and it won't cover me for the first year for any pre-existing conditions. It gets worse from there when you look at what insurance companies want to charge me. And since I can afford to pay for my annual medical care needs out of pocket, I don't need any stinking insurance.

So, thanks to Obamacare, I have a choice between bankruptcy, or pay a fine.....for which I still get no coverage. Come 2013, I'll have the choice to pay Obama my monthly ransom and stay out of jail, or keep the lights on and go to jail for stiffing the IRS. I very sincerely hope he chokes on a chicken bone. He is a stupid and evil man who never thought out the consequences of his policies. What is going to happen to me in 2013 is exactly why Pelosi insisted that we have to pass the bill to find out what's in it. She didn't want anybody to know beforehand what is actually going to happen to them. She is even more evil than Obama. I hope Pelosi chokes on her own vomit and becomes brain dead, so that she can spend the rest of her life at the mercy of the system she helped to destroy.

To all of you who voted for Obama, you did this to me. You think about that the next time one of you wonders why I am so vehemently in contempt of democrats and their corrupt and irresponsible party.

I don't think much of Romney, but I'll choke on my own chicken bone before I'll see another 4 years of Obama. That man is the devil. 3rd party, write-ins, etc., are not an option for me. Obama must be defeated at all costs, whatever they may be.

Don't hold back, TAM. Tell us how you really feel.

(FWIW, Mrs. Oldgringo and I enjoyed the "benefits" of the the Texas High Risk Pool while anxiously waiting to turn 65.)

I'm happy you enjoyed it. They won't cover for the first year any of the things for which I currently see a doctor. Why on earth would I pay $6K/year in premiums for that.... not to mention the huge deductible and out of pocket amounts?

[sjfcontrol]

Gee, TAM, why don't you tell us what you really think!

Seriously, though, I know where you're coming from. I'm on the Texas risk pool, and the coverage is strictly for
emergencies. I'm am surprised, though. I though that like me, you were of an age where you'd be insane to go without insurance. Without insurance, a simple heart attack would likely be a death sentence. And cancer -- well save your last round...

[Oldgringo]

ObamaCare ... allowed an Opt-Out

Not really. Beginning in 2013, the IRS will begin fining me $225/month for not having any insurance. I can't afford insurance because I am self employed, in this economy, and I don't earn enough to get it, and because of several pre-existing conditions for which most insurance companies have rejected me. Believe me, I've tried. Since I have too much in the way of assets (own my home free and clear, and nice retirement investment nest egg), I am not eligible for the public dole—not that I would accept it even if I were. My total annual medical care costs me less than $2,000/year—all dr.'s office visits, prescriptions, and lab tests included—but the absolute cheapest insurance I can get (Texas High Risk Pool) would cost me $543/month, has a $7,500 deductible plus $5,000 out of pocket for a total expenditure of $19,500/year before I actually have any coverage......and it won't cover me for the first year for any pre-existing conditions. It gets worse from there when you look at what insurance companies want to charge me. And since I can afford to pay for my annual medical care needs out of pocket, I don't need any stinking insurance.

So, thanks to Obamacare, I have a choice between bankruptcy, or pay a fine.....for which I still get no coverage. Come 2013, I'll have the choice to pay Obama my monthly ransom and stay out of jail, or keep the lights on and go to jail for stiffing the IRS. I very sincerely hope he chokes on a chicken bone. He is a stupid and evil man who never thought out the consequences of his policies. What is going to happen to me in 2013 is exactly why Pelosi insisted that we have to pass the bill to find out what's in it. She didn't want anybody to know beforehand what is actually going to happen to them. She is even more evil than Obama. I hope Pelosi chokes on her own vomit and becomes brain dead, so that she can spend the rest of her life at the mercy of the system she helped to destroy.

To all of you who voted for Obama, you did this to me. You think about that the next time one of you wonders why I am so vehemently in contempt of democrats and their corrupt and irresponsible party.

I don't think much of Romney, but I'll choke on my own chicken bone before I'll see another 4 years of Obama. That man is the devil. 3rd party, write-ins, etc., are not an option for me. Obama must be defeated at all costs, whatever they may be.

Don't hold back, TAM. Tell us how you really feel.

(FWIW, Mrs. Oldgringo and I enjoyed the "benefits" of the the Texas High Risk Pool while anxiously waiting to turn 65.)

I'm happy you enjoyed it. They won't cover for the first year any of the things for which I currently see a doctor. Why on earth would I pay $6K/year in premiums for that.... not to mention the huge deductible and out of pocket amounts?

Enjoyed = {Sarcasm } to it's highest level.

Carotid artery surgery pretty much makes one uninsurable by the destitute insurance companies, hospitals and doctors. BTW, we did/do not have a nice retirement nest egg; the obscene premium cost came out of our hard earned savings.

[The Annoyed Man]

Gee, TAM, why don't you tell us what you really think!

Seriously, though, I know where you're coming from. I'm on the Texas risk pool, and the coverage is strictly for
emergencies. I'm am surprised, though. I though that like me, you were of an age where you'd be insane to go without insurance. Without insurance, a simple heart attack would likely be a death sentence. And cancer -- well save your last round...

If I have a catastrophic medical event, I can tap either my retirement package or borrow against my home to pay for it......or just not worry about it and go home to Jesus. I am not afraid of what lies beyond the grave. Also, I deal with the potential of heart attack by eating right, and getting to the gym 3 times a week.

In any case, it doesn't matter. I can't afford the rate the THRP charges. I simply can't. So it doesn't matter. What does matter is that, because I can't afford it, I have to pay a fine in 2013. Not an annual fine, a monthly fine. That's in the Obamacare bill as passed. That fine is roughly equal to what a health insurance policy used to cost about 15 years ago for a relatively healthy individual. The democrat party is evil and must be destroyed.

[The Annoyed Man]

Enjoyed = {Sarcasm } to it's highest level.

Carotid artery surgery pretty much makes one uninsurable by the destitute insurance companies, hospitals and doctors. BTW, we did/do not have a nice retirement nest egg; the obscene premium cost came out of our hard earned savings.

No, I got the sarcasm. I was returning the favor. The only reason I have a retirement nest egg is because somebody died and left it to me. Between Obamacare, Obamanomics, and Congress's serial mismanagement of Social Security, I don't expect that it will last long.

[Oldgringo]

Back on point: who knows what Mitt Romney, or any other politician, truly feels about anything until after they are elected?

We toured Salt Lake City and its Temple Square a couple of weeks ago on our way home from Glacier country. Most impressed were we. That said, the LDS DOES NOT Allow guns in its Utah churches. Check it out here. I carried in Temple Square and around town but since I am not a Mormon I couldn't enter their houses of worship anyway.

Personally, I can't differentiate between most any religion EXCEPT Islam. I ain't got no use at all for those muslims and I most surely will not intentionally do anything to get one elected or re-elected, as the case may be.

[apostate]

Back on point: who knows what Mitt Romney, or any other politician, truly feels about anything until after they are elected?

That's true, and in Romney's case, we're fortunate to have his actions as an elected official (Governor) to guide us.

[Oldgringo]

Back on point: who knows what Mitt Romney, or any other politician, truly feels about anything until after they are elected?

That's true, and in Romney's case, we're fortunate to have his actions as an elected official (Governor) to guide us.

Is it Romney, Perry, Cain, Bachman, et al, or is it the Republican Party that has failed us? It is the partys' (bofum) resposibility to provide its supporters with a viable candidate and platform to vote "FOR" rather than something/somebody to vote against.

Somebody please help me. I'm still leaning toward voting for ME.

[RPB]

Back on point: who knows what Mitt Romney, or any other politician, truly feels about anything until after they are elected?

That's true, and in Romney's case, we're fortunate to have his actions as an elected official (Governor) to guide us.

Is it Romney, Perry, Cain, Bachman, et al, or is it the Republican Party that has failed us? It is the partys' (bofum) resposibility to provide its supporters with a viable candidate and platform to vote "FOR" rather than something/somebody to vote against.

Somebody please help me. I'm still leaning toward voting for ME.

If Romney is the only alternative to Obama, I'll vote for you too
His track record as an elected official stinks.
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[Dragonfighter]

Back on point: who knows what Mitt Romney, or any other politician, truly feels about anything until after they are elected?

Character and ideals are often compromised by circumstance.

[Purplehood]

I hope that all of you "I won't vote for Romney" folks won't feel that way if he's the republican nominee. Due to one of his recent speeches about the world being a better place when America is strong he is sounding stronger and stronger and more and more like Reagan. I have my reservations and do not remember much about Reagan the candidate. I didn't start paying much attention to politics at all until the late 80's.

I think, but could be wrong, any republican nominee is going to be way better than what we have now.

I am not going to vote for Mitt Romney because he sounds like Reagan.

I am not going to vote for Mitt Romney, period.

[boba]

No, I'll not vote for him if he's the GOP candidate.

I never intentionally vote for anyone who disregards (has a track record for disregarding) rights.

So, who will you vote for? A non vote is a yes vote for the incumbent, Bucko.

No. The incumbent already has the office. A non vote is a yes vote for the challenger. Everyone knows that.

[sjfcontrol]

No, I'll not vote for him if he's the GOP candidate.

I never intentionally vote for anyone who disregards (has a track record for disregarding) rights.

So, who will you vote for? A non vote is a yes vote for the incumbent, Bucko.

No. The incumbent already has the office. A non vote is a yes vote for the challenger. Everyone knows that.

Oh, so we can all stay home on election day!

[EconDoc]

I hope that all of you "I won't vote for Romney" folks won't feel that way if he's the republican nominee. Due to one of his recent speeches about the world being a better place when America is strong he is sounding stronger and stronger and more and more like Reagan. I have my reservations and do not remember much about Reagan the candidate. I didn't start paying much attention to politics at all until the late 80's.

I think, but could be wrong, any republican nominee is going to be way better than what we have now.

Never believe what any politician says. Only trust what they do. A politician's record is a much better guide to their future actions than anything that they say during a campaign. After all, "How can you tell if a politician is lying? Look to see if the lips are moving."

[Heartland Patriot]

No, I'll not vote for him if he's the GOP candidate.

I never intentionally vote for anyone who disregards (has a track record for disregarding) rights.

So, who will you vote for? A non vote is a yes vote for the incumbent, Bucko.

No. The incumbent already has the office. A non vote is a yes vote for the challenger. Everyone knows that.

Please explain to me, in this era of the media all but being a mouthpiece for the Democrat Party and thus that man in the White House, how you can say that a non-vote is a yes vote for the challenger...it will take every last vote that can be mustered to ouster him (unless you would rather have that man remain in the office). I promise you that the dead WILL vote in Chicago, that votes WILL be found in the trunks of cars in Minnesota and that people who are NOT American citizens in any form or fashion WILL cast votes in places like Denver (and many others)...and they will ALL go to the man in the White House. And because many of you dislike some things about Mitt Romney, you are willing to force another four years of that man in the White House upon us? I really don't know what to think anymore...I used to think of most folks who were pro-firearms a certain way, but I guess I was flat-out wrong. My apologies for my mistake.