NY Mosque

[gemini]

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couldn't say it better myself

[DONT TREAD ON ME]

very well said

[Beiruty]

Can you stop a building a Mosque because you do not like it? Where do you like to see thousands of Muslims Praying each Friday's noon time, in the streets? NY is the big Apple, the City for all of it citizens Muslims, Jews and Christians and all others too.

[Cobra Medic]

I bet there are more mosques than shooting ranges in NYC.

More pretentious nightclubs than either.

[The Annoyed Man]

Certainly Muslims in America have a constitutional right to build a mosque wherever the zoning ordinances allow it, and whenever they have the money to do so - the same right that Christians have to build churches, and Jews to build temples. That is not the point.

There are other, maybe even better, places to build mosques. They didn't have to build one right there. It could have been built somewhere else. It simply could, any arguments to the contrary notwithstanding. THIS place was chosen quite deliberately. It is very much an "in your face" gesture. They are doing it, knowing that it will inflame the passions of non-muslims, and knowing that it is a bitter pill that will stick in the craws of most non-muslims. There is no way that any sentient being cannot be aware of these things. The people who are doing this... they are aware, and they know that non-muslims are aware, and they are not very nice people to be so cruel. It is akin to an artist putting his signature to his chef-d'oeuvre. It is very much in bad taste.

It's in the same vein as Fred Phelps and his mongrel church showing up at the funerals of American servicemen killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. It may be his constitutional right, but it shows him to be an insensitive scab - a pimple on the derriere of all that is decent. In his eyes, he may think he's doing it for God's glory, but most Christians know that there has been a particularly warm place in Hades set aside for him.

What does building this particular mosque say about the hearts of those individual Muslims who are planning it? It says that those individual muslims are no better than Fred Phelps, and their hearts are infested with the same vile nature as his.

[DONT TREAD ON ME]

Certainly Muslims in America have a constitutional right to build a mosque wherever the zoning ordinances allow it, and whenever they have the money to do so - the same right that Christians have to build churches, and Jews to build temples. That is not the point.

There are other, maybe even better, places to build mosques. They didn't have to build one right there. It could have been built somewhere else. It simply could, any arguments to the contrary notwithstanding. THIS place was chosen quite deliberately. It is very much an "in your face" gesture. They are doing it, knowing that it will inflame the passions of non-muslims, and knowing that it is a bitter pill that will stick in the craws of most non-muslims. There is no way that any sentient being cannot be aware of these things. The people who are doing this... they are aware, and they know that non-muslims are aware, and they are not very nice people to be so cruel. It is akin to an artist putting his signature to his chef-d'oeuvre. It is very much in bad taste.

It's in the same vein as Fred Phelps and his mongrel church showing up at the funerals of American servicemen killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. It may be his constitutional right, but it shows him to be an insensitive scab - a pimple on the derriere of all that is decent. In his eyes, he may think he's doing it for God's glory, but most Christians know that there has been a particularly warm place in Hades set aside for him.

What does building this particular mosque say about the hearts of those individual Muslims who are planning it? It says that those individual muslims are no better than Fred Phelps, and their hearts are infested with the same vile nature as his.

What I was thinking just put into words better than I could have. Thanks TAM

[LarryH]

also.

Once again, TAM has written what I would have, but better.

[WildBill]

It may be his constitutional right, but it shows him to be an insensitive scab - a pimple on the derriere of all that is decent.

You do your parents proud.

[seniorshooteress]

No, if they want a Mosque they can build it someplace else. Far away from Ground Zero like maybe in another country. Will the american people let them add insult to injury? Would like to get the opinion of our current prez on this issue. (I would place a wager on which way he would lean) insult.

[Sidro]

TAM as usual is on the mark and so eloquent.

[bnc]

I can't imagine anyone wanting their house of worship to be a source of controversy unless that was their original intent.

[LarryH]

I can't imagine anyone wanting their house of worship to be a source of controversy unless that was their original intent.

bingo

[Salty1]

Every building in NYC needs to be built by Union Labor, let's see how they handle this, they are in position to bankrupt the entire project if it is allowed to go forward. Will the dollar be more valuable than doing what is right as an american? Stay tuned, if this is allowed to go forward things could get interesting

[FL450]

A friend sent an email from a protest that was held against the Mosque, It says not one major network showed up,
I don't have a link to a web site I posted the text minus the pics. It looks like Bloomberg is at it again. He contgrols the landmark commission. Well at least rest assured there wont be any Illegal guns there.


Anybody see this on any of the major networks? I didn't.
Stop the Mosque at Ground Zero Part II
June 16, 2010, New York , N.Y. , by El Marco

Americans Stand Up Against Radical Islam in New York We Will Not Submit!

Not one major network sent a satellite truck or camera crew to this event. Without bloggers this newsworthy event would have remained unknown to the public and history
On Sunday, June 6th, a multi-ethnic, multi-racial coalition of Americans opposed to Islamic violence and intolerance rallied at the site of the World Trade Center in New York City ...


9/11 families were joined by immigrants from India, Russia, Egypt, Israel, Africa, Iran and Europe to show opposition to the construction of a mega-mosque at Ground Zero. Others flew in from overseas to speak or just to share their particular ethnic communities' experiences at the hands of Muslims.


These are parents and spouses of firefighters killed on 9/11. The rally took place just a minute?s walk from Ladder 10 Firehouse, where their loved ones were stationed for duty that terrible day. Ladder 10 lost seven firefighters.


Crowd estimates ranged from 5,000 (NYPD) to 10,000. The crowd overflowed the police barrier enclosures that ran the full length of two city blocks. This photo shows the enclosure in front of the stage at the intersection of Liberty and Church Streets. The second enclosure ran the length of the next block and can be seen on the other side of the traffic lights.


Thousands of additional participants filled the treed area of Zuccotti Park ..


Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller are the founders of STOP ISLAMIZATION OF AMERICA, which sponsored the rally. Ms. Geller is a citizen journalist and blogger who runs the human rights web site Atlas Shrugs. Mr. Spencer is the author of several books on Islam and head of the influential web site Jihad watch. Pamela Geller:
Ground Zero is a war memorial, Ground Zero is a burial ground. We are asking for sensitivity. It is unconscionable to build a shrine to the very ideology that inspired the jihadist attacks at Ground Zero, right there. We are asking the imam Rauf and Daisy Khan to be sensitive. For mutual respect and mutual understanding that is demanded of us every day.
There's a hair-trigger sensitivity in the Muslim world, you can't run the cartoons, you can't say Mohammed, this is offensive. This is an offensive mosque. To build a shrine, an Islamic flag of conquest on the sacred ground the cherished site, of a conquered land. This is historic, this is Islamic history. It's what they do The St. Sofia inTurkey , the al-Quds, at the holiest Jewish site in Israel . Not here. This is where we take a stand. We must take a stand. We must say no.
I do not believe that the landmarks commission controlled by Mayor Bloomberg, is going to stop this mosque. It's not going to happen. Here's Omar Muhamedi, on his human rights council, a CAIR lawyer, who sued the airlines and the Jane and John Does that saw something and said something on those airplanes, if you remember. That's who's on his human rights commission. It ain'tgonna happen with Bloomberg. We have to make it happen. You have to get involved. (Pamela Geller)


Police enclosure on left, with crowd flowing out of park on right. The new Tower 7 and World Trade Center site are in the background. The green tent, center, is located immediately behind the stage.


Port Authority and NYPD officers kept watch over the rally and were well aware of the need for heightened security at this event. One of their own Port Authority officers, WTC Sergeant Alan T. De Vona was on duty at the World Trade Center on 9/11, 2001, and was one of the first to help victims of the terrorist attack. He spoke these words to the SIOA rally:
It's almost nine years. I'm hoping that America is watching. I'm hoping that America is remembering. Because, make no mistake. September 11 was an act of war. And thank the military that has lost almost 5,000 troops from that day, defending us. I don't know what to say to jar America's memory. I want America to remember.


Port Authority Police and FDNY firefighters are seen here gathered beneath this banner.


The issues at stake will certainly affect the heart of American freedom, democracy, cultural values and tolerance. America is a tolerant country that allows for the free worship of all its citizens. But our tolerance has limits. Do we have to tolerate intolerant Islamic ideology and Muslims who preach intolerant Islam?


Hindu human rights activists Narain Kataria, Prasad Yalamanchi and unidentified friend came from Mississippi and Chicagowith banners and flyers highlighting the radical statements of imam Rauf and his jihadist roots.



Stephen Dyer and Gary Jules journalism students at York College, with Pamela Geller. Not one major network sent a satellite truck or camera crew to this event. Without bloggers this newsworthy event would have remained unknown to the public and history.


Pamela Geller is greeted by Hindu human rights activists Prasad Yalamanchi and Narain Kataria.


Bhupinder Singh Bhurji, Pamela Geller, and Robert Spencer. Singh Bhurji is the president of the NAMDHARI SIKH FOUNDATION. The foundation is a member of the Human Rights Coalition Against Radical Islam (HRCARI). HRCARI is a coalition of Hindus, Sikhs, Christians from Sudan, Egypt and Iraq, moderate Muslims and Jews who are victims and targets of radical Islam around the globe. He said, at another rally:
Radical Islamists are killing people in India , trying to dominate that nation. And here too they come with violence against infidels. We are infidels united, standing together, brown, black and white, against this epoch's fascist movement Radical Islam wants to dominate entire world. They want everyone to surrender. Islam radical or otherwise. They want to put the Islamic flag on White House.?


Because of Islamic terrorism, America and the world have seen massive new security measures become a way of life. Anyone openly critical of Islam, or terrorist ideology, must surround themselves with security, or live in hiding. Those courageous enough to confront Islamism are criticized by the cowards and appeasers of the left who seek safety by supporting the enemy. Moderate Muslims were silent when Theo van Gogh was brutally murdered inAmsterdam , just as moderate Muslims in the United States are generally reluctant to speak out against violent Islam. Moderate Muslims also face great danger in speaking out.
Geller and Spencer will press on despite the danger. They hope to inspire Americans to stand up and say enough of political correctness and work to stem the galloping islamization of America and Europe ..

Friends,
Have you seen anything about this story on the evening news?
Of course you haven't! So please forward this email to all those
you know who feel the way you and I do about our country . . .
Thank you, Carolyn King

[Oerlikon20mm]

Every building in NYC needs to be built by Union Labor, let's see how they handle this, they are in position to bankrupt the entire project if it is allowed to go forward. Will the dollar be more valuable than doing what is right as an american? Stay tuned, if this is allowed to go forward things could get interesting

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