Impeach Obama

[jimlongley]

Well Jim I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this. I mean now that we have mindreaders who can state what Fukino meant when she made her statement, why rely on the words that actually came out of her mouth.

Lincoln and the other Presidents never had their citizenship questioned, but I bet if they had, they would have been more than willing to produce a birth certificate. I tend to believe Obama is hiding something. You can call me whatever you choose, but my experience in life has taught me that if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.

Well, you can agree, but I don't. You have now decided that a Hawaii state official who stated that bambam was born in Hawaii is not sufficient to meet your request for a citation. You are splitting hairs, and resplitting, and resplitting, all over something that you're not going to win.

Now as to whether he's hiding something, I believe he is, but he is laughing at the efforts of you and your cohort because he knows you are chasing your tails. I believe he is hiding a health defect, and that it may have something to do with his school records.

OTOH, the thing that the electorate should be raising a hue and cry about is the already lengthening trail of broken promises. This morning's Dallas Morning News features an article about how he's letting those earmarks, that he promised would never happen on his watch, go by just to save time. His representative Peter Orzag says the earmarks are last year's news and we should just forget about it.

Follows my letter to the DMN, and cc'ed to whitehouse.gov:

Call it campaign rhetoric or call it out and out lies, but the broken promise that earmarks would be eliminated is not just "last year's business" it's evidence that the only change Obama intends to give us is pocket change, and damn little of that.

The spending bill does prove one thing though, Obama is surely not a Muslim because no devout Muslim would touch something laden with that much pork.

Rep. Eric Cantor is right, the president was elected based on his promises to change, and now that he got his mandate, the only thing changing is his mind.

Three zingers in one letter, I think that's a record for me, but you can bet that in 2012 it will be someone else's record the electorate will be looking at.

Jim Longley

Lincoln was indeed born in Kentucky, or so we are told, but not too many decades ago we were taught that he may have been born in Illinois, which was not a state at the time of his birth. I'll bet that there is not and never was, never has been, a birth certificate for Lincoln, or for that matter most of the other presidents born at home. My own father had no birth certificate, he was born at home in Washington D.C. and had a "TWIMC" that he had indeed been born alive.

So, something else to consider, is a native of Puerto Rico, or the US Virgin Islands eligible to become president?

[Oldgringo]

jimlongley wrote:

...Call it campaign rhetoric or call it out and out lies, but the broken promise that earmarks would be eliminated is not just "last year's business" it's evidence that the only change Obama intends to give us is pocket change, and darn little of that....

Speaking of which, how many know that Obama very quietly signed a PLA for all of the new stimulus construction projects. A PLA stating that the construction work should go to union workers. How's that for a good old fashion, politics as usual, Tammany Hall style payback?

Check it out
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_labor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[brentkhack]

I am a professional and it looked good to me.

Purplehood, you are a professional what? But the Cert of Live Birth is crap. Where is the Birth Certificate and stop hiring three law firms to cover this up. Look here http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... usive.html Also U.S. law did say you have to live in US for 10yrs and 5yrs since the age of 14. Obama's mother was 18 at the time of birth. So simple math is 14+5=19. So he doesn't qualify

[Keith B]

I am a professional and it looked good to me.

Purplehood, you are a professional what? But the Cert of Live Birth is crap. Where is the Birth Certificate and stop hiring three law firms to cover this up. Look here http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... usive.html Also U.S. law did say you have to live in US for 10yrs and 5yrs since the age of 14. Obama's mother was 18 at the time of birth. So simple math is 14+5=19. So he doesn't qualify

That is only if you are NOT a natural born citizen. His mother was a US citizen and had never moved out of the states prior to his being born. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. That would automatically make Jr. a citizen too, no matter who the father was or where he was from.

[mr.72]

That would automatically make Jr. a citizen too, no matter who the father was or where he was from.

It would not make him a "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN".

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

And of course Wikipedia,the encyclopedia written by whomever pleases to write it on the Internet, is a very reliable source of the most thoroughly vetted information. Or maybe it is not.

[Keith B]

That would automatically make Jr. a citizen too, no matter who the father was or where he was from.

It would not make him a "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN".

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

And of course Wikipedia,the encyclopedia written by whomever pleases to write it on the Internet, is a very reliable source of the most thoroughly vetted information. Or maybe it is not.

Just read the 14th Amendment and apply it to the fact his mother was a U.S. citizen. This should clarify it either way. Taken from http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html ... -000-.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And, it is TWO years after 14, not 5 (see section (g) )

TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401Prev | Next § 1401.

Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;

(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;

(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;

(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;

(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and

(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.

[mr.72]

Keith, I think the point you missed, which I clearly did not make effectively, is that a person born on foreign soil is not a natural born citizen of the United States, regardless of the citizenship status of his parents. He may be a naturalized citizen, or otherwise a US Citizen, distinct from a natural born citizen.

[KD5NRH]

And, it is TWO years after 14, not 5 (see section (g) )

It is now but the change is not retroactive.

Via INS, just exactly as I posted several days ago in this same thread, and has been posted in plenty of other places:

For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

[jimlongley]

jimlongley wrote:

...Call it campaign rhetoric or call it out and out lies, but the broken promise that earmarks would be eliminated is not just "last year's business" it's evidence that the only change Obama intends to give us is pocket change, and darn little of that....

Speaking of which, how many know that Obama very quietly signed a PLA for all of the new stimulus construction projects. A PLA stating that the construction work should go to union workers. How's that for a good old fashion, politics as usual, Tammany Hall style payback?

Check it out
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_labor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He's a Chicago politician. Do you know how to tell when a Chicago politician is lying? Well, that's pretty difficult, first you have to determine if the politician is actually alive, and then having done so, if the politician is alive, the politician is lying, and if the politician is dead, the politician is probably still lying, the only way you can actually be sure a Chicago politician is not lying is if you have conducted the cremation yourself and scattered the ashes in far outer space, Chicago politicians have been known to vote long after their deaths.

[Right2Carry]

Well Jim I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this. I mean now that we have mindreaders who can state what Fukino meant when she made her statement, why rely on the words that actually came out of her mouth.

Lincoln and the other Presidents never had their citizenship questioned, but I bet if they had, they would have been more than willing to produce a birth certificate. I tend to believe Obama is hiding something. You can call me whatever you choose, but my experience in life has taught me that if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.

Well, you can agree, but I don't. You have now decided that a Hawaii state official who stated that bambam was born in Hawaii is not sufficient to meet your request for a citation. You are splitting hairs, and resplitting, and resplitting, all over something that you're not going to win.

Now as to whether he's hiding something, I believe he is, but he is laughing at the efforts of you and your cohort because he knows you are chasing your tails. I believe he is hiding a health defect, and that it may have something to do with his school records.

OTOH, the thing that the electorate should be raising a hue and cry about is the already lengthening trail of broken promises. This morning's Dallas Morning News features an article about how he's letting those earmarks, that he promised would never happen on his watch, go by just to save time. His representative Peter Orzag says the earmarks are last year's news and we should just forget about it.

Follows my letter to the DMN, and cc'ed to whitehouse.gov:

Call it campaign rhetoric or call it out and out lies, but the broken promise that earmarks would be eliminated is not just "last year's business" it's evidence that the only change Obama intends to give us is pocket change, and darn little of that.

The spending bill does prove one thing though, Obama is surely not a Muslim because no devout Muslim would touch something laden with that much pork.

Rep. Eric Cantor is right, the president was elected based on his promises to change, and now that he got his mandate, the only thing changing is his mind.

Three zingers in one letter, I think that's a record for me, but you can bet that in 2012 it will be someone else's record the electorate will be looking at.

Jim Longley

Lincoln was indeed born in Kentucky, or so we are told, but not too many decades ago we were taught that he may have been born in Illinois, which was not a state at the time of his birth. I'll bet that there is not and never was, never has been, a birth certificate for Lincoln, or for that matter most of the other presidents born at home. My own father had no birth certificate, he was born at home in Washington D.C. and had a "TWIMC" that he had indeed been born alive.

So, something else to consider, is a native of Puerto Rico, or the US Virgin Islands eligible to become president?

Sorry Jim you still haven't proved anything. The statement of Fukino still stands, she never said that Obama was born in Hawaii. Sorry you can't get by that little fact. She purposely did not state that Obama was born in Hawaii so that those like you would blindly follow her statement.

Obama has duped many individuals, just add your name to the list. When the truth comes out and it will, I believe I will get the last laugh.

In case you didn't know it, it's a democrat who has been bringing the lawsuits and he still has 3 pending in the lower courts.

I wonder why Obama would pay lawyers to defend this when all he has to do is produce the paper? I guess he has money to burn just to burn.

[KC5AV]

Ok, let's look at something a little differently. The Supreme Court has refused to hear the case. What should be done?

[Right2Carry]

Ok, let's look at something a little differently. The Supreme Court has refused to hear the case. What should be done?

The supreme court failed to hear the case because they are nothing but cowards. Requiring Obama to provide proof of citizenship would have been the right call. They like everyone else in this country were afraid of the Race card being thrown at them.

[nitrogen]

Ok, let's look at something a little differently. The Supreme Court has refused to hear the case. What should be done?

The supreme court failed to hear the case because they are nothing but cowards. Requiring Obama to provide proof of citizenship would have been the right call. They like everyone else in this country were afraid of the Race card being thrown at them.

Yet they were brave enough to hear Heller?

I honestly don't think it's about race; I think it's about a bunch of sore losers that aren't much better than the Liberals over the past 8 years who were sore about GWB winning.

[Right2Carry]

Ok, let's look at something a little differently. The Supreme Court has refused to hear the case. What should be done?

The supreme court failed to hear the case because they are nothing but cowards. Requiring Obama to provide proof of citizenship would have been the right call. They like everyone else in this country were afraid of the Race card being thrown at them.

Yet they were brave enough to hear Heller?

I honestly don't think it's about race; I think it's about a bunch of sore losers that aren't much better than the Liberals over the past 8 years who were sore about GWB winning.

Yea that's it all right. My son has to provide a birth certificate to play little league yet requiring the POTUS to provide his when there are legitimate concerns about where he was born is just sore grapes. That dog just won't hunt. I have to provide my birth certificate when taking a new job but asking the POTUS to provide his when his Natural born status is questioned is just to much.

I didn't file the lawsuit a democrat did. Obama could have just provided the birth certificate and shut the whole thing down but he decided to hire lawyers and he is still paying lawyers on 3 lower court cases dealing with this issue. Is this the same Obama who promised to have the most ethical administration in the history of this country? Is this the same Obama who said his administration and office would be an open book? I guess like most democrats or liberals those words only mean something when it doesn't apply to him.

Sour grapes, nope. Do I want to make sure he meets the constitutional requirements when there are legitimate questions about his birth, you bet I do.

[jimlongley]

Sorry Jim you still haven't proved anything. The statement of Fukino still stands, she never said that Obama was born in Hawaii. Sorry you can't get by that little fact. She purposely did not state that Obama was born in Hawaii so that those like you would blindly follow her statement.

Obama has duped many individuals, just add your name to the list. When the truth comes out and it will, I believe I will get the last laugh.

In case you didn't know it, it's a democrat who has been bringing the lawsuits and he still has 3 pending in the lower courts.

I wonder why Obama would pay lawyers to defend this when all he has to do is produce the paper? I guess he has money to burn just to burn.

I don't have anything to prove, a state official declared that bambam is a ciizen, not Fukino, but the person you claim is using mental telepathy.

And bambam hasn't duped me, I doubt his qualification to be president, but, as I have pointed out numerous times, this particular fight is merely wrassling with the pig, and bambam is the pig.

I don't much care whose bringing the suits, they are Quixotic.

And bambam is paying the lawyers so he can watch you wrassle with the pig while he sneaks in earmarks and anti-gun laws and whatever else he can get away with while people are running around chasing conspiracies. Why would he bother to produce a paper when it serves as such a great distractor.