I agree. He did the right thing but they're still at it, rioting, looting, and killing. Until someone takes a different approach like the one I mentioned above nothing will change. Its gonna take someone or a group who is willing to take it all the way to quell this revolt.Flightmare wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:01 pmHad Kyle opened fire indiscriminately upon the crowd, things would likely be very different for him.
As it stands, he stopped 3 active threats and removed himself from the situation. I think this is a good example for all of us. Just my opinion.
Dinesh D'Souza says recent riots and political unrest could lead to 'rise of citizen militias around the country'
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Another point that has been loosely commented on, where are all these riots happening? In Democratic strongholds where the police (by order of the various mayors) and DA are in cahoots with the rioters. Thus they’re always playing with home field advantage. You never see them playing an away game because they’re smart enough to know that not all locations are so friendly to their cause.
Bring their riots and mayhem to the right suburb or other area and we’ll start to see the police hooking them up and the DA prosecuting them right and left. Until they get brazen enough to try that, or literally burn out the cities they’re currently running amuck in things aren’t going to change. It’ll be a very different story if/when they leave their comfort zone.
Bring their riots and mayhem to the right suburb or other area and we’ll start to see the police hooking them up and the DA prosecuting them right and left. Until they get brazen enough to try that, or literally burn out the cities they’re currently running amuck in things aren’t going to change. It’ll be a very different story if/when they leave their comfort zone.
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I agree, they only do this stuff where they can get away with it! Without a complicit D.A. Mayor and Governor none of this would have happened but once! They riot in the wrong State in the Wrong city and there bodies will litter the ground!SigM4 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:41 am Another point that has been loosely commented on, where are all these riots happening? In Democratic strongholds where the police (by order of the various mayors) and DA are in cahoots with the rioters. Thus they’re always playing with home field advantage. You never see them playing an away game because they’re smart enough to know that not all locations are so friendly to their cause.
Bring their riots and mayhem to the right suburb or other area and we’ll start to see the police hooking them up and the DA prosecuting them right and left. Until they get brazen enough to try that, or literally burn out the cities they’re currently running amuck in things aren’t going to change. It’ll be a very different story if/when they leave their comfort zone.
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Re: Dinesh D'Souza says recent riots and political unrest could lead to 'rise of citizen militias around the country'
I strongly agree that Kyle showed outstanding judgement regarding his use of force. He was under severe distress and showed great restraint in responding to the deadly force used against him.Flightmare wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:01 pmHad Kyle opened fire indiscriminately upon the crowd, things would likely be very different for him.
As it stands, he stopped 3 active threats and removed himself from the situation. I think this is a good example for all of us. Just my opinion.
I am not a lawyer, but as I understand the law regarding rioting:
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Principal rioters are those who are present and actively participate in the riot. All persons present who are not actually assisting in the suppression of the riot can be regarded as participants when their presence is intentional and tends to encourage the rioters.
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Defenses
There is never any justification for a riot. The only defense that can be claimed is that an element of the offense is absent. Participation is an essential element. Establishing that an individual's presence at the scene of a riot was accidental can remove any presumption of guilt.
There appears to be quite a bit of legal liability for rioters. Unless you can show you were present to suppress the rioting or were accidentally there... those supporting the riot appear to share the guilt along with those firebombing and assaulting with weapons.
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I worry about the radicalized Lone Wolves... On both sides.... Biding their time, hiding in parking garages, tall buildings, along the freeways taking pot shots at everyone... Very difficult to find and control... Very hard to fight back against a sniper when your just sitting with your family at a restaurant or driving to work...
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That is VERY sobering!Grayling813 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:46 pm Antifa Reality Check
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Re: Dinesh D'Souza says recent riots and political unrest could lead to 'rise of citizen militias around the country'
This may be a stretch from the intent of this thread. I'm keying off "militia"
The dark side of the word militia is the other groups who are pushing toward it. One of the pro-Democrats on my FB list posted this article yesterday.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/ ... af6ab859bd
When I read it, I come away with the conclusion "antifa good, gun lovers bad" which I'm certain is the intent. But if the statement that none of AG Barr's targets have been Antifa is accurate, it gives me pause. How can than be, given what we've seen with Antifa? I have no illusion that fringe groups are not seizing on the chaos to further their own goals. But i believe that way more of the push toward militias isn't Boogoloo and whatever objectives those people have. And I have to scratch my head about the supposed goal of Boogoloo murdering police officers as a means to the end of starting another civil war.
I also realize that the article could be a hit piece trying to demonize any mention of militia. They turn everything upside down. Those who are trying to preserve our Constitutional Republic are portrayed as trying to start a civil war to accomplish it. I think the terms "left" and "right" have become so distorted that it is not possible to use them. When the extreme right and the extreme left have the same goals, they cannot be at the opposite ends of the spectrum.
The dark side of the word militia is the other groups who are pushing toward it. One of the pro-Democrats on my FB list posted this article yesterday.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/ ... af6ab859bd
When I read it, I come away with the conclusion "antifa good, gun lovers bad" which I'm certain is the intent. But if the statement that none of AG Barr's targets have been Antifa is accurate, it gives me pause. How can than be, given what we've seen with Antifa? I have no illusion that fringe groups are not seizing on the chaos to further their own goals. But i believe that way more of the push toward militias isn't Boogoloo and whatever objectives those people have. And I have to scratch my head about the supposed goal of Boogoloo murdering police officers as a means to the end of starting another civil war.
I also realize that the article could be a hit piece trying to demonize any mention of militia. They turn everything upside down. Those who are trying to preserve our Constitutional Republic are portrayed as trying to start a civil war to accomplish it. I think the terms "left" and "right" have become so distorted that it is not possible to use them. When the extreme right and the extreme left have the same goals, they cannot be at the opposite ends of the spectrum.
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Re: Dinesh D'Souza says recent riots and political unrest could lead to 'rise of citizen militias around the country'
"....a gathering of militia enthusiasts and Second Amendment advocates.."
I've never, ever read any mention of militias as being anything other than beer-bellied, illiterate, white supremacist gun nuts. Just the word "militia" is all it takes to make most people draw back in horror.
I've never, ever read any mention of militias as being anything other than beer-bellied, illiterate, white supremacist gun nuts. Just the word "militia" is all it takes to make most people draw back in horror.
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