DPS Body Cam Footage Confirms Dennis Bonnen Lies

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Re: DPS Body Cam Footage Confirms Dennis Bonnen Lies

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Let me be perfectly clear.

Anyone behaving that way in my neighborhood- and I mean anyone peacefully and politely advocating the second amendment - will be immediately approached.

We know how to deal with his kind. Not five miles from here, a little Bar-B-Que restaurant serves what every single citizen across this great state agrees is far and away the best brisket in Texas. What better way to deal with a gun McNutt than over a generous plate of award winning groceries?

Seriously, that kind of encounter with police, where the subject of firearms is no more than an excuse for a friendly conversation, is something I crave. Freedom and civil rights are beautiful things, and it makes me want to stand up and cheer when government enforcement is respectfully on the side of decency. Which, in my experience, most police are.

That little Bar-B-Que shop, by the way, is right across the highway from the Mexia airport. Even more amazing than the brisket is how modest they are about it.

Come early if you want lunch. There's always two lines. The one in front is good rural folk with healthy appetites, and there's another line at the side door. That's where the cows line up.

It's that good.

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MaduroBU wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:06 am
baytownb wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:06 am
MaduroBU wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:53 pm It's wrong when crowds of idiots surround Cruz or McConnell at dinner and it's wrong when one idiot shows up at a Bonnen's door. Those activities are personal and outside of acceptable political discourse and should be mocked and punished as necessary.

Bonnen's lies are immaterial to McNutt's foolishness.
Precisely what is "personal" and "outside of acceptable political discourse"? Passing out flyers to contact the speaker and other key politicians to support a gun rights issue or him walking up to DPS and handing them a flyer to put on his door along with the hundreds of others he was passing out while never stepping foot on his property? Which one of those two known actions is so horrible to you? Have you ever said it was "personal" and "outside of acceptable political discourse" when the same politicians come to our houses with political material? If not why do you think politicians have special privileges to engage in what you call "personal and outside of acceptable political discourse"?
State elected officials all maintain "contact me" options online. Mcnutt may not like that, but that's the accepted pathway. Showing up at a stranger's door from across the state is not "handing out fliers, and we would all condemn that behavior if anti gun nutters did it to pro gun Congressmen.
Yet after numerous attempts by McNutt and others Bonnen's office refused to even acknowledge their contacts.
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Re: DPS Body Cam Footage Confirms Dennis Bonnen Lies

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Papa_Tiger wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:37 am
MaduroBU wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:06 am
baytownb wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:06 am
MaduroBU wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:53 pm It's wrong when crowds of idiots surround Cruz or McConnell at dinner and it's wrong when one idiot shows up at a Bonnen's door. Those activities are personal and outside of acceptable political discourse and should be mocked and punished as necessary.

Bonnen's lies are immaterial to McNutt's foolishness.
Precisely what is "personal" and "outside of acceptable political discourse"? Passing out flyers to contact the speaker and other key politicians to support a gun rights issue or him walking up to DPS and handing them a flyer to put on his door along with the hundreds of others he was passing out while never stepping foot on his property? Which one of those two known actions is so horrible to you? Have you ever said it was "personal" and "outside of acceptable political discourse" when the same politicians come to our houses with political material? If not why do you think politicians have special privileges to engage in what you call "personal and outside of acceptable political discourse"?
State elected officials all maintain "contact me" options online. Mcnutt may not like that, but that's the accepted pathway. Showing up at a stranger's door from across the state is not "handing out fliers, and we would all condemn that behavior if anti gun nutters did it to pro gun Congressmen.
Let me tell you about the "contact me" options that you have. Sending an e-mail is ignored. My wife has written several messages to committee members about a bill that we are particularly interested in AND our rep. No response. Nothing. Not even an automated "thank you for writing us". That doesn't mean that our feedback isn't being heard, but there is no indication that it has been heard or even received.

Call the office and you may get a person, but again, no guarantee that the info will actually get to the rep.

Snail mail? Unanswered.

The way our representatives and senators respond to us (or don't) sure makes it feel that our voice isn't being heard. I see nothing wrong in canvassing a neighborhood to try to get a message across to our representatives, particularly if previous communication has fallen into a black hole known as the State Capitol.
Largely that is because they no longer actually represent us. They feed us what they think we want to hear to in order to get elected and then for the most part forget their promises and go back to business as usual.

We have a great political divide, not so much between right and left but between the "Ruling Monied Class" and "The working class". They just keep us at each others throats over right/left issues so that the majority don't see what is really going on.

That is what led to the populist wave both Trump and Sanders capitalized on in 2016 and what will largely drive the election in 2020. The problem is that the most passionate folks usually burn out pretty fast if they don't get satisfaction from those they elected.

I see this every day in coffee table and discussions on other forums more geared towards politics. The "true believers" largely responsible for making Trump's election possible are really getting angry and bitter because he hasn't been able to move fast enough on issues such as trade and immigration and there's a really ugly anti Jew and Anti "brown people" sentiment brewing that could become a serious problem before long as a result.
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Re: DPS Body Cam Footage Confirms Dennis Bonnen Lies

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MaduroBU wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:04 pm
canvasbck wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:16 am
MaduroBU wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:53 pm It's wrong when crowds of idiots surround Cruz or McConnell at dinner and it's wrong when one idiot shows up at a Bonnen's door. Those activities are personal and outside of acceptable political discourse and should be mocked and punished as necessary.

Please enlighten me on what is considered acceptable political discourse.

The guy was passing out flyers in a neighborhood. He didn't even set foot on Bonnen's property. I admit that had the troopers not volunteered to place the flyer, he probably would have left one on his door. OK...........aaaaaaaannnnnddddd???

Flyers are left on my vehicle all the time, I have never felt threatened because of it. They aren't left on my door because I have gates on my driveway, flyers have been left on my gate. I either read them or throw them away. No harm, no foul.

The other side is encouraged BY LAWMAKERS to harass members of POTUS' administration "wherever you see them", yet passing out flyers is too extreme for "our" side??? This attitude is the way to lose in the court of public opinion.
Antifa attacking Cruz and McConnell during the Kavanaugh hearings was obscene. Taking a firm stand against that sort of ludicrous behavior is important, and to me, that stand includes condemnation of folks who show up at the homes of government officials.
Oh good gravy, what McNutt did is in no way similar to the radical leftists showing up to riot and intimidate Cruz and others at their homes.

Bonnen and others feel completely insulated from the people they rule over. Peacefully and politely dropping off fliers at their homes and in their neighborhoods does not threaten them in any way, it simply reminds them that their actions in Austin hit the rest of us right where we live and that they are responsible to us.
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MaduroBU wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:30 am You have a vote and money. Tell a politician that you're a member of his or her party and that you're going to start voting and or donating to the other side as a result of a specific action.

I gave Cruz money vs. BETO and now his people contact me so often that I worry that his wife ought to know about it. DPS troopers escorting you off some guy's sidewalk has a zero percent chance of changing his mind to your cause and makes you look like a militant stalker. Further, when that behavior is publicized it paints your entire cause with that brush AND gives liars like Bonnen essentially free reign to throw your cause under the bus. Bonnen is now blameless before all of the gun owners who are only peripherally following his actions; McNutt's stupidity absolved Bonnen before most of his voters, even if Bonnen did turn his back on us and lied about McNutt's exact actions.
What are you talking about here? Nobody was escorted anywhere, it would help if you actually watched the video.
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WildRose wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:17 am
MaduroBU wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:04 pm
canvasbck wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:16 am
MaduroBU wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:53 pm It's wrong when crowds of idiots surround Cruz or McConnell at dinner and it's wrong when one idiot shows up at a Bonnen's door. Those activities are personal and outside of acceptable political discourse and should be mocked and punished as necessary.

Please enlighten me on what is considered acceptable political discourse.

The guy was passing out flyers in a neighborhood. He didn't even set foot on Bonnen's property. I admit that had the troopers not volunteered to place the flyer, he probably would have left one on his door. OK...........aaaaaaaannnnnddddd???

Flyers are left on my vehicle all the time, I have never felt threatened because of it. They aren't left on my door because I have gates on my driveway, flyers have been left on my gate. I either read them or throw them away. No harm, no foul.

The other side is encouraged BY LAWMAKERS to harass members of POTUS' administration "wherever you see them", yet passing out flyers is too extreme for "our" side??? This attitude is the way to lose in the court of public opinion.
Antifa attacking Cruz and McConnell during the Kavanaugh hearings was obscene. Taking a firm stand against that sort of ludicrous behavior is important, and to me, that stand includes condemnation of folks who show up at the homes of government officials.
Oh good gravy, what McNutt did is in no way similar to the radical leftists showing up to riot and intimidate Cruz and others at their homes.

Bonnen and others feel completely insulated from the people they rule over. Peacefully and politely dropping off fliers at their homes and in their neighborhoods does not threaten them in any way, it simply reminds them that their actions in Austin hit the rest of us right where we live and that they are responsible to us.
I disagree. At BEST, McNutt's actions were ineffective and at worst they give Bonnen cover to renege on promises. If Bonnen keeps votes because he successfully lies to the gun owners in his district about McNutt's actions, McNutt still screwed up. Political speech that depends upon politicians acting in an honest and upright manner is the worst kind of stupid, regardless of its intentions. Showing up in a public figure's yard is foolhardy and grossly counterproductive. It costs our cause moderate votes and it's in bad taste.
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Dennis Bonnen hand picked Poncho Nevarez to kill pro-RKBA bills as chairman of the Homeland Security & Public Safety committee.

Does anybody really believe he supports the right of average people to keep and bear arms? :roll:
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MaduroBU wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:50 pm
WildRose wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:17 am
MaduroBU wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:04 pm
canvasbck wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:16 am
MaduroBU wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:53 pm It's wrong when crowds of idiots surround Cruz or McConnell at dinner and it's wrong when one idiot shows up at a Bonnen's door. Those activities are personal and outside of acceptable political discourse and should be mocked and punished as necessary.

Please enlighten me on what is considered acceptable political discourse.

The guy was passing out flyers in a neighborhood. He didn't even set foot on Bonnen's property. I admit that had the troopers not volunteered to place the flyer, he probably would have left one on his door. OK...........aaaaaaaannnnnddddd???

Flyers are left on my vehicle all the time, I have never felt threatened because of it. They aren't left on my door because I have gates on my driveway, flyers have been left on my gate. I either read them or throw them away. No harm, no foul.

The other side is encouraged BY LAWMAKERS to harass members of POTUS' administration "wherever you see them", yet passing out flyers is too extreme for "our" side??? This attitude is the way to lose in the court of public opinion.
Antifa attacking Cruz and McConnell during the Kavanaugh hearings was obscene. Taking a firm stand against that sort of ludicrous behavior is important, and to me, that stand includes condemnation of folks who show up at the homes of government officials.
Oh good gravy, what McNutt did is in no way similar to the radical leftists showing up to riot and intimidate Cruz and others at their homes.

Bonnen and others feel completely insulated from the people they rule over. Peacefully and politely dropping off fliers at their homes and in their neighborhoods does not threaten them in any way, it simply reminds them that their actions in Austin hit the rest of us right where we live and that they are responsible to us.
I disagree. At BEST, McNutt's actions were ineffective and at worst they give Bonnen cover to renege on promises. If Bonnen keeps votes because he successfully lies to the gun owners in his district about McNutt's actions, McNutt still screwed up. Political speech that depends upon politicians acting in an honest and upright manner is the worst kind of stupid, regardless of its intentions. Showing up in a public figure's yard is foolhardy and grossly counterproductive. It costs our cause moderate votes and it's in bad taste.
Constitutional Carry was dead for this session as soon as he appointed an anti gun democrat to lead the committee.

His cover lasted about 2 weeks until he and his wife were both shown to be the gutless liars they are. McNutt did us all a favor exposing Bonnen for what he is.
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Exactly, his statement that law enforcement wouldn't be able to tell the law abiding from the criminals says it all. It's working just fine in 16 other states.
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Grumpy1993 wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:32 pm Dennis Bonnen hand picked Poncho Nevarez to kill pro-RKBA bills as chairman of the Homeland Security & Public Safety committee.

Does anybody really believe he supports the right of average people to keep and bear arms? :roll:

Indeed. And his rhetoric about advocates of unlicensed carry wanting to arm criminals betrays this belief.
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I really doubt the 16 other states that allow it to allow felons to carry openly. I thought there is some type of federal law prohibiting felons from owning firearms. Bonnen Has been waiting for some group to post about that.
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SigSour wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:58 pm Dennis doubles down on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/RepDennisBonne ... 9433666534
Bonnen's treachery and lying apparently know no bounds. Sheesh! He knows full well federal law prevents felons from possessing yet posts a statement by a group as proof the bill he killed would allow it. Either he or FB have manipulated the replies yet he still has his flock of sheep. I hope he's ridden out on a rail next session. I wish the NRA would immediately re-evaluate his rating.
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