A heads up on Kalifornia

[bblhd672]

This is really sad for me, as I came here from California in 2006. In the 10-1/2 years I've lived here, my youngest brother has never come to visit me here. My middle brother stopped by once for 45 minutes after I picked him up at DFW, because his band had a Dallas gig that night. My mother came once in early 2007 to see our home, and once again in 2012 when my son got married. But that's it. Otherwise, ALL of my contact with my family has been because my wife and I either drove or flew to California to touch bases with them. It's been very one-sided, and it breaks my heart because I love my family. If I stop going there to visit, it will mean that I stop seeing them pretty much entirely, but I don't know how much longer I'm willing to do that. It has been an enormous, and very one-sided, expense for me to do so. Whether it is airfare and hotels, or driving and an RV, it costs LOT of money to maintain that relationship, and I'm drawing near to the end of how long I'm willing to pay for that.

The formerly great state of California's recent forays into fascism has only served to cement my reluctance. I suspect that once my mom has passed (she's 92 now and quite frail), I'll give my brothers the message that some reciprocity would be nice, and see how they take to the idea.

Unfortunately I can relate. I experienced the same type of thing when I moved my family from Louisiana to St. Louis area.

[jed]

[/quote]And again, I'm focusing less on California more on how close Texas can come to this. Remember, Hillary got 43.2% of the Texas votes; that's almost half. The pressure is definitely there. How much longer will we hold them off?[/quote]

Texas is just a few liberal transplants away from being like california. I heard on the radio the other day that there is a push among libs/dems/socialists to do just that, here and other parts of the country.

If you take Los Angeles County's vote away on Nov 8, Trumps wins the popular vote. Large cities are making up the liberal vote, here and all over the nation. If we get just 10% more liberal voters we are doomed. I am very concerned about our future here in Texas as well as the nation.

[Lynyrd]

If you take Los Angeles County's vote away on Nov 8, Trumps wins the popular vote. Large cities are making up the liberal vote, here and all over the nation. If we get just 10% more liberal voters we are doomed. I am very concerned about our future here in Texas as well as the nation.

What a coincidence. Large cities where the crime rate is high are populated by liberals who want to take away guns. Less guns = easier crime. You've got two pieces of the liberal voting bloc both wanting guns off the street for different reasons. One so that crime will be easier, the other naively believes laws will take guns away from criminals. That is a recipe for higher crime and urban decay.

[remanifest]

This is a travesty. I hope there's a way to have the federal government step in on behalf of the citizens of California, Massachusetts, New York, DC, Illinois, and any other area where regular citizens are turned into criminals for possessing modern weapons. The ramifications are incalculable if this is allowed to stand.

This move is a true assault against American citizens. I'm calling for my family to leave California - so far, only my Dad is up for it.

[Pawpaw]

If you take Los Angeles County's vote away on Nov 8, Trumps wins the popular vote. Large cities are making up the liberal vote, here and all over the nation. If we get just 10% more liberal voters we are doomed. I am very concerned about our future here in Texas as well as the nation.

What a coincidence. Large cities where the crime rate is high are populated by liberals who want to take away guns. Less guns = easier crime. You've got two pieces of the liberal voting bloc both wanting guns off the street for different reasons. One so that crime will be easier, the other naively believes laws will take guns away from criminals. That is a recipe for higher crime and urban decay.

It's always been that way. For example:

[Scott Farkus]

An excellent book, by the way, and I believe a fairly accurate portrayal of where California will be in 10 years from now.

This is really sad for me, as I came here from California in 2006. In the 10-1/2 years I've lived here, my youngest brother has never come to visit me here. My middle brother stopped by once for 45 minutes after I picked him up at DFW, because his band had a Dallas gig that night. My mother came once in early 2007 to see our home, and once again in 2012 when my son got married. But that's it. Otherwise, ALL of my contact with my family has been because my wife and I either drove or flew to California to touch bases with them. It's been very one-sided, and it breaks my heart because I love my family. If I stop going there to visit, it will mean that I stop seeing them pretty much entirely, but I don't know how much longer I'm willing to do that. It has been an enormous, and very one-sided, expense for me to do so. Whether it is airfare and hotels, or driving and an RV, it costs LOT of money to maintain that relationship, and I'm drawing near to the end of how long I'm willing to pay for that.

The formerly great state of California's recent forays into fascism has only served to cement my reluctance. I suspect that once my mom has passed (she's 92 now and quite frail), I'll give my brothers the message that some reciprocity would be nice, and see how they take to the idea.

I'm not trying to pry, and if this is too personal of a question please say so, but why don't your siblings come to visit? Is it a monetary issue for them or do they just despise Texas so much they won't set foot here?

What's happening in California is very troubling for the reasons already mentioned. It's easy to say "well, they get what they deserve for voting for those fools", but the uncomfortable truth is that Texas is not all that far removed from it, and if it is allowed to stand there it gives the left a road map for other places. It infuriates me how the courts will bring the hammer down on the bare slightest perceived "infringement' of a completely made up "constitutional right" - you know the one - but turn a blind eye to real infringement of a real enumerated right. I hope and pray that Trump follows through with his promises with respect to the Supreme Court, but we'll see.

[Jeff B.]

I'll comment from my perspective, on my family...

Over the past 15 years we've pretty much split. My brother and oldest sister along with their families live in the DC area and have bought into the Progressive agenda and narrative whole heartedly. We went from joint family vacations for 5 years to less contact, pretty much weddings and funerals to little more than Christmas cards.

My one older sister (younger of the two) is in my camp with her kids.

I think that there is a condescension in the other group towards us and Texas in particular. I should have picked up on some of the comments from my SIL at my older daughters wedding going on six years ago about never having attended a "theme" wedding. There was not a theme but it was Texas as the bride, groom and their attendants were dressed in western styled clothing and the reception had slot of Texas/Southwestern cultural aspects. Since, I haven't seen or heard from anyone on that side.

I don't really do FB, but know that my son and SIL engaged in a political battle over the election as she (SIL) is a rabid Progressive. They fully agree with the Progs that we don't need guns in society and would be better off disarmed like England or Australia.

So in short, they despise Texas and our view of freedom. In turn, I despise the world and worldview of the Progressive. So there you have it. A family split and distancing by the day over fundamental views on life.

Jeff B.

[Ruark]

The ramifications are incalculable if this is allowed to stand.

You said it. I shudder to think of the consequences of a Katrina or Ferguson type episode in CA a couple of years from now. There are numerous towns in CA already that are so gang-infested you can't even run down to the corner store for a loaf of bread after sunset. Put it all together, and it's a bloodbath waiting to happen.

[ScottDLS]

Something I've wondered about this new California ammunition law. What if CA resident goes to Nevada and buys a pallet of ammo? Do you have to have an ammo card to "possess" ammo? What about everybody that got it before? Do they have to turn it in? Seems like a 9 mile wide "loophole" to me. Better let the politicians know so they can close this loophole with common sense laws.

[Ruark]

Something I've wondered about this new California ammunition law. What if CA resident goes to Nevada and buys a pallet of ammo? Do you have to have an ammo card to "possess" ammo? What about everybody that got it before? Do they have to turn it in? Seems like a 9 mile wide "loophole" to me. Better let the politicians know so they can close this loophole with common sense laws.

It's already closed. SB1225 makes it illegal to bring ammunition in from outside the state. If you do, it must be shipped to a "licensed ammunition vendor," so they can do your background check, registration, etc. when you pick it up.

One thing that's not regulated by the new code is reloading, and the sale/possession of reloading supplies. Expect a huge surge in reloading in CA in the coming years, at least until the legislature hears about it.

Interesting summary of this at:

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/07/ne ... n-law.html

[ScottDLS]

Something I've wondered about this new California ammunition law. What if CA resident goes to Nevada and buys a pallet of ammo? Do you have to have an ammo card to "possess" ammo? What about everybody that got it before? Do they have to turn it in? Seems like a 9 mile wide "loophole" to me. Better let the politicians know so they can close this loophole with common sense laws.

It's already closed. SB1225 makes it illegal to bring ammunition in from outside the state. If you do, it must be shipped to a "licensed ammunition vendor," so they can do your background check, registration, etc. when you pick it up.

One thing that's not regulated by the new code is reloading, and the sale/possession of reloading supplies. Expect a huge surge in reloading in CA in the coming years, at least until the legislature hears about it.

Interesting summary of this at:

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/07/ne ... n-law.html

What about possession of ammunition purchased before ban, and are all non-residents prohibited from possessing any ammunition in the state? What if I come to Cali to hunt or target shoot?

[Ruark]

What about possession of ammunition purchased before ban, and are all non-residents prohibited from possessing any ammunition in the state? What if I come to Cali to hunt or target shoot?

You can possess it, but can't sell it. You can share or loan it to family or friends, but can't sell it.

[mccloven27]

What about possession of ammunition purchased before ban, and are all non-residents prohibited from possessing any ammunition in the state? What if I come to Cali to hunt or target shoot?

You can possess it, but can't sell it. You can share or loan it to family or friends, but can't sell it.

To add fuel to the fire on this one the law does specify that it only applies to CA residents as far as purchasing outside and bringing it in. To further widen the hole it also doesn't say anything about a non-resident GIVING ammo to a CA resident (you can't sell it though). I can just see it now, "hey while I was out shooting I accidentally bought an extra box of ammo you want it?, a few weeks go by, "hey you remember that money I borrowed from you last June well here it is." Don't worry though I'm sure as soon as they realize this it will be patched up in a hurry.

[The Annoyed Man]

An excellent book, by the way, and I believe a fairly accurate portrayal of where California will be in 10 years from now.

This is really sad for me, as I came here from California in 2006. In the 10-1/2 years I've lived here, my youngest brother has never come to visit me here. My middle brother stopped by once for 45 minutes after I picked him up at DFW, because his band had a Dallas gig that night. My mother came once in early 2007 to see our home, and once again in 2012 when my son got married. But that's it. Otherwise, ALL of my contact with my family has been because my wife and I either drove or flew to California to touch bases with them. It's been very one-sided, and it breaks my heart because I love my family. If I stop going there to visit, it will mean that I stop seeing them pretty much entirely, but I don't know how much longer I'm willing to do that. It has been an enormous, and very one-sided, expense for me to do so. Whether it is airfare and hotels, or driving and an RV, it costs LOT of money to maintain that relationship, and I'm drawing near to the end of how long I'm willing to pay for that.

The formerly great state of California's recent forays into fascism has only served to cement my reluctance. I suspect that once my mom has passed (she's 92 now and quite frail), I'll give my brothers the message that some reciprocity would be nice, and see how they take to the idea.

I'm not trying to pry, and if this is too personal of a question please say so, but why don't your siblings come to visit? Is it a monetary issue for them or do they just despise Texas so much they won't set foot here?

I think it is a combination of factors. I think part of it is just their priorities. I suspect that part of it is that, since I'm the one who moved away, they think it's on me to visit them, not the other way around.

My middle brother's band plays gigs in Texas occasionally, but he doesn't make any effort to fit a visit in when he does. I found out on Facebook a couple of weeks ago that they were in Houston for a one night show, but had no idea that he was in Texas until I saw the post. I'd have driven down there to see him if I had known.

My youngest brother told me once on the phone when I asked why he doesn't come and visit some time, that he would only make the trip for two occasions - my son's wedding, and/or my funeral......and he didn't come to my son's wedding, even though I offered to put him and his wife up either at my house or in the hotel of his choice. I think that he gets way out of his comfort zone if he feels like he's not the one in control of whatever is going on.

My mom is 92 and frail, and although she likes to travel, she's more interested in exotic places than "mere" Texas.

While my youngest brother more or less shares my political outlook, my middle brother and my mother are both pretty far to the left, and I'm sure that they probably view most of Texas a some sort of cultural wasteland, and Texans as people who cling to their guns and their religion, and who are afraid of people who are different from them. And yet, my youngest brother would rather live a marginalized existence as a libertarian leaning conservative in California, than to risk the unknown of moving somewhere even slightly lest fascist. Heck, he has inlaws and a step son in Nevada, and could easily transition there if he wanted to, but he won't. Heck, he's spending Christmas in Las Vegas with his brother in law and step son.

And in all fairness to both of my brothers, they also both stay in California because, all politics aside, that's where my mom is, and they take good care of her. But that doesn't rule out visits here if they wanted to make the effort. They don't seem to want to.

[treadlightly]

Last night I heard part of a street interview with someone in New York, another benighted state, about security at his church. I think they had metal detectors and guards at the doors. The happy interviewee said he wasn't worried, his church was the safest place to be.

What a shame. He is proud to trade a safe life for a safe cell, and that's probably what he teaches his kids.