Missouri Football Coach - No Handguns Ownership

[flowrie]

Looks like an opportunity for lawsuit.

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/09 ... n-handgun/

[TexasTornado]

And he would know that they owned a handgun how exactly? Idiots on the loose again....

[bblhd672]

Further clarification from a Missouri spokesperson: "Our program’s policy does not prohibit players from legally owning guns.....

https://twitter.com/matthewcstevens

Other than the coach misspeaking about MU's policy - not a story.

[TexasTornado]

Further clarification from a Missouri spokesperson: "Our program’s policy does not prohibit players from legally owning guns.....

https://twitter.com/matthewcstevens

Other than the coach misspeaking about MU's policy - not a story.

May be a MUCH bigger story than you think...

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/sto ... /89734146/

[Oldgringo]

Missouri is not known as the, "Show Me State" for no reason. On a side note, if one is good enough to play for Missouri, one is good enough to play elsewhere.

[bblhd672]

I stand corrected.

Legal ownership of guns by students and staff at public Universities should not be infringed, as long as the University policies about carrying and use are complied with.

[aero10]

Further clarification from a Missouri spokesperson: "Our program’s policy does not prohibit players from legally owning guns.....

https://twitter.com/matthewcstevens

Other than the coach misspeaking about MU's policy - not a story.

May be a MUCH bigger story than you think...

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/sto ... /89734146/

WOW! I had not clue about this. As a Mississippi State and Texas A&M alum, I'm very disappointed (granted not really surprised) by the policies of the programs.

[Soccerdad1995]

I am not a fan of the nanny state nature of these wrong headed policies. But I do not know if this is a 2A violation.

The Bill of Rights gives us protection against government infringement on our rights. A private organization can revoke membership because they don't like the way that someone is exercising their rights, and that would not be protected. We commonly see this when someone is kicked out of an organization because they tweeted something that is politically incorrect, or insensitive, or whatever.

The issue here is that we are talking about a state institution. If it was a private University, I would say that they are within their rights to kick someone off the team, or even out of the school altogether, for exercising their first or second amendment rights. But a state University is a bit too close to a government organization for me to personally be OK with these arbitrary and biased restrictions on people's civil rights. Is it actually against the constitution? I have no idea. Should it be unconstitutional for a government run University? IMHO, yes.

[bblhd672]

Kentucky coach Mark Stoops:

“I’ve made it very clear to them that I do not want them owning a handgun, even if they have a legal permit for it,” Stoops said. “They obviously can never have a handgun on campus, but I make it my policy to tell them no guns and come explain to me why they may need a gun because we definitely should not need a gun living in Lexington, Kentucky. So, that’s my policy.”

Wow, so Lexington, KY is the safest city in the world? Nothing is ever going to happen there requiring a citizen to exercise their 2nd Amendment right to defend themselves with a handgun? He'd fit in great at UT Austin.

[Soccerdad1995]

Kentucky coach Mark Stoops:

“I’ve made it very clear to them that I do not want them owning a handgun, even if they have a legal permit for it,” Stoops said. “They obviously can never have a handgun on campus, but I make it my policy to tell them no guns and come explain to me why they may need a gun because we definitely should not need a gun living in Lexington, Kentucky. So, that’s my policy.”

Wow, so Lexington, KY is the safest city in the world? Nothing is ever going to happen there requiring a citizen to exercise their 2nd Amendment right to defend themselves with a handgun? He'd fit in great at UT Austin.

The Lexington crime rate is higher than the Kentucky average crime rate and is higher than the national average crime rate.

Crime Index, #208

Lexington, KY 2,064.69
Kentucky 1,304.60
U.S. 1,669.05

The crime index value is calculated based on the data using USA.com algorithms. It is an indicator of the crime level in a region. Higher crime index value means more crime.

http://www.usa.com/lexington-ky-crime-a ... e-rate.htm

[ScottDLS]

I am not a fan of the nanny state nature of these wrong headed policies. But I do not know if this is a 2A violation.

The Bill of Rights gives us protection against government infringement on our rights. A private organization can revoke membership because they don't like the way that someone is exercising their rights, and that would not be protected. We commonly see this when someone is kicked out of an organization because they tweeted something that is politically incorrect, or insensitive, or whatever.

The issue here is that we are talking about a state institution. If it was a private University, I would say that they are within their rights to kick someone off the team, or even out of the school altogether, for exercising their first or second amendment rights. But a state University is a bit too close to a government organization for me to personally be OK with these arbitrary and biased restrictions on people's civil rights. Is it actually against the constitution? I have no idea. Should it be unconstitutional for a government run University? IMHO, yes.

It's theoretically your private employer's right to prohibit you from owning a handgun, or drinking at home, or smoking...but a state university is an agent of the government and cannot deprive you of your Constitutional rights. So in my opinion, 2nd amendment and Heller/McDonald apply...however, like other outrageous restrictions, it begs the question of "how are they going to find out"? Concealed means concealed (off campus in MO, of course).

[ELB]

In other perhaps-not-entirely-unrelated news,
Enrollment drop from Mizzou protests worse than feared

As predicted, last year’s racial uprising has cost the University of Missouri close to a quarter of its freshmen class, leaving the school worse off than it had initially anticipated.
...
To make matters worse, Mizzou is also trying to dig itself out of a financial hole of $32 million brought on by both low enrollment numbers as well as state legislators who proposed cuts of $1 million to Mizzou’s allocation of state funds and $7.6 million to the UM system’s administrative funds.

The school’s already tense relationship with the state legislature intensified last year after former journalism professor Melissa Click was caught on video harassing students and swearing at police officers during on-campus protests in the fall. Click was later suspended and eventually fired, but the damage to Mizzou’s reputation had already been done.

Mizzou is turning itself into a basket-case of worms.

(Howzat for mixing metaphors?)

[Ryan]

It's theoretically your private employer's right to prohibit you from owning a handgun, or drinking at home, or smoking...

This is why I don't discuss anything not work related with my current boss. Also why I didn't add him as a friend on facebook. We can be friendly at work, but he doesn't need to know anything about me outside of that. However, this is not an absolute rule for me... just at this current job. I know that my current boss is SUPER anti-2a, anti-pitbull, and anti just about everything else I like. So we have a business relationship ONLY. I have some former bosses that are great friends still to this day. You just gotta pick and choose wisely who you divulge information to.

[Soccerdad1995]

It's theoretically your private employer's right to prohibit you from owning a handgun, or drinking at home, or smoking...

This is why I don't discuss anything not work related with my current boss. Also why I didn't add him as a friend on facebook. We can be friendly at work, but he doesn't need to know anything about me outside of that. However, this is not an absolute rule for me... just at this current job. I know that my current boss is SUPER anti-2a, anti-pitbull, and anti just about everything else I like. So we have a business relationship ONLY. I have some former bosses that are great friends still to this day. You just gotta pick and choose wisely who you divulge information to.

with both of y'all.

Said another way, you have the right to call your boss an incompetent jerk. And he has the right to fire you as a result. No one's rights will have been violated, but you will still be unemployed.

[SewTexas]

this just leaves so many questions....

- how would they find out?
- isn't it an invasion of privacy?
- are they on a power high?

etc