Hillary found to be extrememly careless, but not criminal

[Flightmare]

I don't consider myself a big social media junkie. However there is one hash tag that seems to fit. #TooBigToJail

[philip964]

Fun fact of the day - James Comey, who now-famously recommends no charges against noble Hillary, once labored to put Martha Stewart in the Big House. He was a US Attorney at the time and served as lead prosecutor in that case.

Martha Stewart, given the prosecutor's attention Comey granted her and his lackluster interest in chasing Hillary, was more of a threat to the American way than HIllary's state secrets open to the world.

General Patraeus had a notebook in a desk drawer at home and had let his bed-buddy biographer read it.

Terribly stupid and it's right he lost rank, retirement, and paid $100,000 fine.

But it's hardly the same thing as offering state secrets to foreign intelligence.

On the other hand, I don't cross my wife. I know to respect radicalized homemakers with weaponized knick-knacks.

Maybe Comey does, too.

I think the obvious conflicts in his announcement are a plea for help against forces he's helpless against. My prediction, he will retire in the very near future.

And pray for his safety. We don't need another Vince Foster.

To this day everyone believes that Martha Stewart was convicted of insider trading. She was never charged with insider trading.

It was a pure witch hunt. A way to further his career .

Martha Stewart was charged with lying to a FBI agent. Had Martha asked to have her attorney present when the FBI agents showed up unannounced at her office, she would have not been charged with anything. As it was the charge of lying was preposterous. A jury was convinced by Comey beyond a reasonable doubt, that Martha Stewart lied about what she remembered.

How can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt about what some one remembered. In this case a phone call from months before.

So in this case Comey was willing to press an indictment where he had no evidence. Here he will not press a case where he admits he has all the evidence he needs.

Do you think Martha Stewart is unhappy she did not make more political contributions.

This is America today.

[LucasMcCain]

I've quoted that passage to people more times than I care to remember..........and while most of them are offended at the notion that elites think they are more equal than the rest of us, and they agree with me that the notion is morally wrong, they still vote for oligarchs who maintain that "more equal than others" status quo.

The American voter is largely a hypocritical idiot who will vote himself bread and circuses. Now, for some, bread and circuses means gov't charity for themselves; for others, bread and circuses means aiding and abetting America's role as the "global police"; still for others, bread and circuses means charity for foreign nations. But very very few are willing to vote for an actual reduction in gov't if it means giving up their most cherished shibboleths. To such a citizenry, "some are more equal than others" ultimately turns out not to bother them all that much, so long as they get whatever it is they want. They are categorically unable to put the health of the Constitution and the rule of law ahead of their wants.

This is a complete about-face for me. I used to have faith in the long-term wisdom of the electorate. I thought that they occasionally made mistakes, but then they were willing to correct those mistakes when they'd had enough, by throwing the bums out once in a while. I no longer think they even know where their actual self-interests lie because they've been thoroughly seduced by the oligarchs. If they can't recognize Clinton or Trump for what they are, then how on earth can they even be expected to ever recognize a true statesmen if one were to unexpectedly rear up and bite them on the butt? All the great statesmen are dead and gone, and there are precious few people involved in gov't any longer—whether as elected officials, or as unknown bureaucrats—who still believe that they serve the more noble cause of a Constitutional Republic rather than existing for the purpose of protecting their rice bowl and pandering to the looters.

The fact is, Trump can't beat Clinton. EVEN IF every "never Trump" person like me reversed themselves and abandoned that position, there simply aren't enough voters who fall outside of the "looters" category to overcome the majority that the looters hold. Eight years of Obama HAS fundamentally transformed the nation. We are no longer recognizable as the "shining city on the hill". Eight years of Obama HAS convinced a significant chunk of the electorate to become looters. Eight years of Obama HAS wiped out any belief among those looters in the notion of American exceptionalism. Eight years of Obama HAS eradicated any due reverence among the looters for the precepts of individual liberty. He HAS fundamentally transformed America, and it is for the long term.

We are going to have at least 4 to 8 more years, possibly longer, of this progressive descent into fascism before people decide they've had enough..........IF they ever decide they've had enough.......because there simply aren't enough people left who remember this country as it was, and the number of looters is increasing. We are getting older and dying off, and this entitled generation of snowflakes is about to take power. I tremble for the country my precious grandkids are going to inherit, if it still exists by then.

So I don't take my comfort from a hope that Trump will somehow miraculously win the election. Each of us is going to have to find out for ourselves from where to take comfort for the future, but if a wart like Trump is the best anyone can do to find hope in this state of affairs, then I would suggest they should look elsewhere.

Not to proselytize, but this is where I find my comfort for me: God is not surprised by any of this. He is in fact in control of all of it. NONE of it happens but he allows it to happen. Just as he allowed Satan to torment Job and then used that for his own glory (and in the process, refining Job's righteousness), God will allow this nation's torment to happen, and then he will use it for his own glory - and in the process, perhaps refining our own righteousness. What we have broken, he can redeem. He not only can, he will. It may be impossible for my finite human mind to wrap itself around exactly how or why God will use this, but I have complete faith that he will.

In the Old Testament, the people of Israel/Judah were subjected to exile in Assyria and Babylon for the sins of their kings and the people themselves. But among those exiles were a number of righteous men — Ezekel, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, Jeremiah, Ezra — who suffered alongside their people even though some of them were actual prophets. To me, this is an illustration of what we can expect for those of us who still love liberty and were not willing to throw away the Constitution in exchange for bread and circuses. We will suffer alongside those who were heedless, short-sighted, and selfish. But, it is for some of us to be the "prophets" of liberty, to keep the idea alive until God sees fit to relieve our suffering. In the meantime, I believe that God will use this suffering for his own glory, and I also believe that my very raison d'être is to glorify God. So I am satisfied that, while I might suffer because of what is to come, God is going to redeem all of this, and use it all for his good purposes. Even so, come Jesus come.

I realize that not everybody shares my brand of faith, or even has any spiritual inclinations at all, so this is how I process these events, and how I find my comfort in them. Again, this is not meant to be proselytizing for my particular brand of faith; but I do most wholeheartedly suggest that each of us needs to look elsewhere for comfort, because there is ZERO chance of finding any in the current events. This IS as bad as it gets.

As usual, you express yourself well, and I agree with the majority of what you say. There are just a few things I would say about your view.

I would caution everyone not to let themselves be convinced of the futility of our cause by the media. One of their primary goals is to convince us that we are in the overwhelming minority, and that is simply not true. There are many who believe as we do. They simply lack major media outlets through which to voice their opinions. Much of the general voting population is conservative and votes conservative. If they didn't, the Dems wouldn't have to get illegal voters and work so tirelessly to discredit, discourage, and intimidate all who oppose them. Does it look grim? Sure. Should we just give up? Not at all. Don't let the liars convince you that the majority of people believe their lies. This is why so many people fear to denounce the lies, and they shouldn't be afraid.

As far as Trump goes, I don't like him. However, I haven't liked any president as a person since Reagan. I disagreed with a some of Ronnie's policies, but I genuinely believe that he was a good man trying to do what he believed to be right. I can't really say that confidently about any of those that have held the office since him. I voted for some of them, though. I voted against the rest. Vote. Vote for the lesser of two evils. I realize that phrase is particularly applicable to this election, but vote none the less. It may be rigged; the enemy will most certainly cheat again; vote anyway. Vote for the candidate we have, even though it's not the candidate we want.

Most importantly, I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your post. God is seated on his throne. He is sovereign and His will WILL be done. He knows who will win, and they will do so only because He allows it. We must trust God and put our faith in Him regardless of the politicians, and even the governments, that come and go. It may very well be that God will allow that horrible woman to win. If so, I would offer you a word of comfort. The Christian faith grows the fastest in the parts of the world where it is most strongly opposed and persecuted. If that evil woman takes office, the Christian church WILL be persecuted, and it WILL grow faster than it has in several generations. This is not conjecture; this is learning from history and from other nations of the world right now. The church is growing by leaps and bounds in countries where discovery that you are a Christian means execution.

I guess the TL;DR version is: Take heart. All is not yet lost. Even if it is, God will use whatever happens for His purposes, to His glory, and we are to count it joy when we suffer for His sake. I know you know that, but it bears repeating. And in case I didn't make it clear, I say all this with the utmost respect, to build you up, not cut you down. You are one of my favorite people in this forum and I value your opinions highly.

[Skiprr]

In return for his help in this, does Barrack Obama become a Supreme Court judge appointed by Hillary?

Be afraid. Be very afraid...

This is ridiculous.

Hillary isn't appointing Obama to the Supreme Court.

Even if she wanted to, the Senate would never confirm him, barring a major shake up in the composition of the Senate.

Even if it were to do so, there is no reason to think Obama might be willing to spend the rest of his productive life in the relatively cloistered role of a Supreme Court justice making a few hundred thou per year when he could be out running around fleecing donors for millions, working or not as he saw fit.

C'mon, men!

Oh, I definitely agree about BHO as a SCOTUS justice. I think B23Msports's post was tongue-in-cheek, and my reply certainly was...but with a wink and a nudge toward the cautionary tale many have been repeating: one of the greatest fears we should have about four more years of an Obama/Clinton-style "progressive" administration is the composition of the Supreme Court.

Obama would never seek or accept an appointment as a Supreme Court justice. He'd never be willing to step out of the limelight. I look for him to morph his experience as a Community Activist in Chicago (Crime City, USA) and POTUS into his future role of "National Activist": if Hillary wins, we as a nation will continue to have to deal with Obama as a never-fading media presence. Have teleprompter will travel.

But we have no guarantees that the current Senate will not eventually accept a "compromise" and confirm a Hillaryophilic candidate, and if there is a redistribution in the Senate during the administration, well...

As the vote on Obama's immigration action showed, we're on a taut, thin tightrope already. A swing in the ideological composition and personal values at 1 First Street, NE, would have ramifications for not just a Clinton administration, but for a generation...or more. If elected, Hillary can foul up a whole lot of stuff very quickly. But with Justice Scalia's swing vote absent and pending appointment, and with three other of the remaining eight justices over 75 years old--including the "moderate" Kennedy who turns 80 in less than three weeks--it's almost certain the next administration will be nominating (and lobbying for the appointment of) at least two SCOTUS positions, possibly three.

So, yep. I'm afraid. I'm very afraid.

[bblhd672]

The Annoyed Man and LucasMcCain:

[Diesel42]

Thank you Lucas McCain and TAM.
You both express my frustration with humanity and comfort with my Savior.
I will survive, I just hate to see so much grief and misery created by greed and immorality.
Nick

[Vol Texan]

Obama would never seek or accept an appointment as a Supreme Court justice. He'd never be willing to step out of the limelight. I look for him to morph his experience as a Community Activist in Chicago (Crime City, USA) and POTUS into his future role of "National Activist": if Hillary wins, we as a nation will continue to have to deal with Obama as a never-fading media presence. Have teleprompter will travel.

Odds are, you're right. But there's a little voice in the back of my head that says, "BHO would LOVE to become a justice, and stay in the limelight, forever changing the way the SCOTUS behaves. A post-Obama SCOTUS would be a reality TV show gone wild, with implications we could never dream about by only looking at the behaviors of SCOTUS-past."

[mojo84]

In return for his help in this, does Barrack Obama become a Supreme Court judge appointed by Hillary?

Be afraid. Be very afraid...

This is ridiculous.

Hillary isn't appointing Obama to the Supreme Court.

Even if she wanted to, the Senate would never confirm him, barring a major shake up in the composition of the Senate.

Even if it were to do so, there is no reason to think Obama might be willing to spend the rest of his productive life in the relatively cloistered role of a Supreme Court justice making a few hundred thou per year when he could be out running around fleecing donors for millions, working or not as he saw fit.

C'mon, men!

Oh, I definitely agree about BHO as a SCOTUS justice. I think B23Msports's post was tongue-in-cheek, and my reply certainly was...but with a wink and a nudge toward the cautionary tale many have been repeating: one of the greatest fears we should have about four more years of an Obama/Clinton-style "progressive" administration is the composition of the Supreme Court.

Obama would never seek or accept an appointment as a Supreme Court justice. He'd never be willing to step out of the limelight. I look for him to morph his experience as a Community Activist in Chicago (Crime City, USA) and POTUS into his future role of "National Activist": if Hillary wins, we as a nation will continue to have to deal with Obama as a never-fading media presence. Have teleprompter will travel.

But we have no guarantees that the current Senate will not eventually accept a "compromise" and confirm a Hillaryophilic candidate, and if there is a redistribution in the Senate during the administration, well...

As the vote on Obama's immigration action showed, we're on a taut, thin tightrope already. A swing in the ideological composition and personal values at 1 First Street, NE, would have ramifications for not just a Clinton administration, but for a generation...or more. If elected, Hillary can foul up a whole lot of stuff very quickly. But with Justice Scalia's swing vote absent and pending appointment, and with three other of the remaining eight justices over 75 years old--including the "moderate" Kennedy who turns 80 in less than three weeks--it's almost certain the next administration will be nominating (and lobbying for the appointment of) at least two SCOTUS positions, possibly three.

So, yep. I'm afraid. I'm very afraid.

John Lott doesn't think it's such an absurd notion.

[The Annoyed Man]

As usual, you express yourself well, and I agree with the majority of what you say. There are just a few things I would say about your view.

I would caution everyone not to let themselves be convinced of the futility of our cause by the media. One of their primary goals is to convince us that we are in the overwhelming minority, and that is simply not true. There are many who believe as we do. They simply lack major media outlets through which to voice their opinions. Much of the general voting population is conservative and votes conservative. If they didn't, the Dems wouldn't have to get illegal voters and work so tirelessly to discredit, discourage, and intimidate all who oppose them. Does it look grim? Sure. Should we just give up? Not at all. Don't let the liars convince you that the majority of people believe their lies. This is why so many people fear to denounce the lies, and they shouldn't be afraid.

As far as Trump goes, I don't like him. However, I haven't liked any president as a person since Reagan. I disagreed with a some of Ronnie's policies, but I genuinely believe that he was a good man trying to do what he believed to be right. I can't really say that confidently about any of those that have held the office since him. I voted for some of them, though. I voted against the rest. Vote. Vote for the lesser of two evils. I realize that phrase is particularly applicable to this election, but vote none the less. It may be rigged; the enemy will most certainly cheat again; vote anyway. Vote for the candidate we have, even though it's not the candidate we want.

Most importantly, I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your post. God is seated on his throne. He is sovereign and His will WILL be done. He knows who will win, and they will do so only because He allows it. We must trust God and put our faith in Him regardless of the politicians, and even the governments, that come and go. It may very well be that God will allow that horrible woman to win. If so, I would offer you a word of comfort. The Christian faith grows the fastest in the parts of the world where it is most strongly opposed and persecuted. If that evil woman takes office, the Christian church WILL be persecuted, and it WILL grow faster than it has in several generations. This is not conjecture; this is learning from history and from other nations of the world right now. The church is growing by leaps and bounds in countries where discovery that you are a Christian means execution.

I guess the TL;DR version is: Take heart. All is not yet lost. Even if it is, God will use whatever happens for His purposes, to His glory, and we are to count it joy when we suffer for His sake. I know you know that, but it bears repeating. And in case I didn't make it clear, I say all this with the utmost respect, to build you up, not cut you down. You are one of my favorite people in this forum and I value your opinions highly.

I don't take it as a cut down at all, and thank you for the affirmation. I want to stress that I am pessimistic politically, but NOT unhappy spiritually. I fully expect the persecution, and as a friend of mine said recently, "if we die, we die". I'm actually OK with all of that because I know where I'm headed, and I won't be die-ing as a young man. What I didn't say in my previous post, but have posted elsewhere such as on Facebook is that I actually count it a privilege to be alive to be both a witness to God's hand in these events, and to be his witness to people in a time of increasing spiritual need. I've been reading lately from a biographical trilogy of Winston Churchill (Volume 1, Volume 2, and Volume 3), and I am encouraged by his "happy warrior" ethos. I just no longer see it as a winnable political war. Politics come and go, but God is eternal. The fight is now in the spiritual realm, and I am comfortable with that.

[KLB]

John Lott doesn't think it's such an absurd notion.

I don't know, but I hope you have to be able to at least name the people you're pardoning. If not, why wouldn't he?

Reconsidering, maybe he'll do it anyway. He can do virtually anything (including banning commerce in firearms and ordering the IRS to audit everyone on this site) on the hope that Hillary gets elected and will have gotten through an appointment to the Supremes by the time the cases get to that court.

[The Annoyed Man]

http://christiantimesnewspaper.com/brea ... jail-cell/

Christian Times Newspaper has learned that Guccifer, the Romanian hacker currently being held on charges for hacking Hillary Clinton’s personal email server, has been found in his Virginia jail cell, dead of an apparent suicide.

Guccifer, also known as Marcel Lazar Lehel, was extradited to the United States to face charges after openly admitting to repeatedly hacking Hillary Clinton’s email server. This claim occurred in the midst of an FBI probe that was concluded this morning by Director Comey.

Another name added to the Clinton dead pool.......

[anygunanywhere]

http://christiantimesnewspaper.com/brea ... jail-cell/

Christian Times Newspaper has learned that Guccifer, the Romanian hacker currently being held on charges for hacking Hillary Clinton’s personal email server, has been found in his Virginia jail cell, dead of an apparent suicide.

Guccifer, also known as Marcel Lazar Lehel, was extradited to the United States to face charges after openly admitting to repeatedly hacking Hillary Clinton’s email server. This claim occurred in the midst of an FBI probe that was concluded this morning by Director Comey.

Another name added to the Clinton dead pool.......

Aaaaaaaand another...


https://whiskeytangotexas.com/2016/07/0 ... y-clinton/

[JALLEN]

Sheriff's Office


Statement on "Guccifer" Rumors

Marcel Lehel Lazar, a federal inmate also known as Guccifer, is at the William G. Truesdale Adult Detention Center in Alexandria, Va. He is alive and has never been missing from this facility.

Sheriff Dana Lawhorne
July 6, 2016

https://www.alexandriava.gov/sheriff/in ... x?id=92694

[carlson1]

The "Justice" system now has a huge black eye. I can't imagine what the Agents who worked this case are thinking right now. I would imagine a lot Agents will retiring and soon.

[The Annoyed Man]

http://christiantimesnewspaper.com/brea ... jail-cell/

Christian Times Newspaper has learned that Guccifer, the Romanian hacker currently being held on charges for hacking Hillary Clinton’s personal email server, has been found in his Virginia jail cell, dead of an apparent suicide.

Guccifer, also known as Marcel Lazar Lehel, was extradited to the United States to face charges after openly admitting to repeatedly hacking Hillary Clinton’s email server. This claim occurred in the midst of an FBI probe that was concluded this morning by Director Comey.

Another name added to the Clinton dead pool.......

Aaaaaaaand another...


https://whiskeytangotexas.com/2016/07/0 ... y-clinton/

However, it turns out that the Guccifer story is a hoax, which I didn't realize when I posted the item above: http://sourceplanet.net/news/is-guccife ... on-emails/