CHL's have committed 29 mass murders - Washington Post

[philip964]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk ... ?tid=sm_tw

[TVegas]

That was laughable.

I found it funny that the writer tried to cover up the three-victim-mass-shootings by including references to John Lott and acknowledging that mass shootings aren't nearly as prevalent as the media tends to make it appear.

[dlh]

What did Mark Twain famously say?...Lies...Damned lies...Statistics...

Just two initial thoughts on the article:

First, people with conceal carry permits are human beings and are fallible. Nobody denies that. There are bad doctors, lawyers, dentists, accountants, plumbers, etc. etc. etc. However, as the author of the article notes, the vast majority of conceal carry folks are decent, law-abiding citizens.

Secondly, the author notes that unarmed people are more likely to stop a mass-shooting than an armed person with a conceal carry permit. Well, think about that....unarmed people outnumber armed people by a gazillion, or whatever the appropriate statistic is so you would expect more unarmed people to stop a mass shooting. More people get to Phoenix by driving an automobile than by walking too...maybe that has something to do with the prevalence of automobiles.

I have never been a big fan of the "social sciences" as they attempt to sound all scientific with spongy and sketchy numbers. I highly recommend a nice little book written by a mathematician, "How to Lie With Statistics" by Darrell Huff.

dlh

[bmwrdr]

In terms of statistics and if the statement in the article is true those 29 were outliers.
A factual statement should always include the big picture and not just a fraction or manipulated data.

[eureka40]

One could just as easily argue that all of those were committed by car drivers' license holders for all the relevance it has.

Pretty sure they all were wearing shoes also. Soooo shoe wearers are the ones we should look out for.

[psijac]

29 since 2007 is over 3 murders per year, PER YEAR GUYS! OVER 3 IS ALMOST 4!

[baldeagle]

The article is written by someone who has already been caught cherry picking results. http://crimeresearch.org/2015/10/washin ... dies-show/

The report he cites is from the Violence Policy Center which is notorious for publishing false statistics about guns and shootings.

I have no doubt that their claim won't hold up to scrutiny.

And then there's this: Washington Post Claims 29 Mass Murders By Concealed Carriers… But They LIED.

[VMI77]

All the left has is lies. About everything. Even with their lies they are generally unsuccessful in advancing their agenda by persuasion so they always resort to using government to force their agenda on those who oppose it.....and that is their primary motive in seeking to extinguish gun ownership. They want a monopoly on the use of force in order to create their leftist Utopia.

[TexasJohnBoy]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism ... shootings/

"Since there are currently 12.8 million concealed carry permit holders in America, Ingraham’s argument rests on the claim that .0002266 percent of permit holders were tied to mass shootings."

"So if someone would rather work off the figure of 4.6 million instead of 12.8 million, it means that the percentage of concealed permit holders who allegedly carried out mass shootings is .0006304 percent."

This was laughable to say the least.

[Skiprr]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism ... shootings/

"Since there are currently 12.8 million concealed carry permit holders in America, Ingraham’s argument rests on the claim that .0002266 percent of permit holders were tied to mass shootings."

"So if someone would rather work off the figure of 4.6 million instead of 12.8 million, it means that the percentage of concealed permit holders who allegedly carried out mass shootings is .0006304 percent."

This was laughable to say the least.

Thank you for researching that.

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