Is deadly forced justified when construction company trying?

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Re: Is deadly forced justified when construction company try

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Thank you for all the good advices. I fully understand and agree. I was not asking what you would do it should have done in this situation. I know the answers already.

This is just a hypothetical situation. So would you convict the homeowner had he shot the construction workers over perceived demolition? Given the Texas law allowing using lethal force.
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Stupid wrote:Thank you for all the good advices. I fully understand and agree. I was not asking what you would do it should have done in this situation. I know the answers already.

This is just a hypothetical situation. So would you convict the homeowner had he shot the construction workers over perceived demolition? Given the Texas law allowing using lethal force.
From what you described, the house was, in fact, sold to another person.

Even though he may have occupied the house it was no longer his property.

Even though the previous owner may not have liked the compensation it was sold so he is no longer the homeowner.

In fact, he would be trespassing if he stayed on the property.

Therefore, he had no claim to the property so he had no right to defend it with deadly force.

That is my take on it. :tiphat:
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Re: Is deadly forced justified when construction company try

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mojo84 wrote:The demo crew doesn't just show up on a bulldozer and start demolishing a house. There is a lot of work that goes on prior to the demo work starting. Electric and gas disconnected, appliances removed, verification no chemicals are inside, verification no asbestos is present, etc. Therefore, the hypothetical situation of a demo crew rolling up off the street and starting demolition is absurd and unrealistic.

Therefore, the hypothetical idea of shooting someone in such a situation is ludicrous and continuing to argue over it is also.

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Stupid wrote:Thank you for all the good advices. I fully understand and agree. I was not asking what you would do it should have done in this situation. I know the answers already.

This is just a hypothetical situation. So would you convict the homeowner had he shot the construction workers over perceived demolition? Given the Texas law allowing using lethal force.
If it happened in this country with our legal system? Heck yeah. Texas law doesn't allow lethal force in that situation which has been the point of so many of the comments.
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VoiceofReason wrote::deadhorse:
It had been 3 days since the last post. Why bump it up just to post the beating a dead horse thing?
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mojo84 wrote:
VoiceofReason wrote::deadhorse:
It had been 3 days since the last post. Why bump it up just to post the beating a dead horse thing?
Why bump it up just to ask why I bumped it up?
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Because I wasn't the one concerned about the beating of a dead horse and was fine just letting it die in the first place. ;-)
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mojo84 wrote:Because I wasn't the one concerned about the beating of a dead horse and was fine just letting it die in the first place. ;-)
Is beating a dead horse animal cruelty?

Is it legal to shoot a dead horse?
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WildBill wrote:
mojo84 wrote:Because I wasn't the one concerned about the beating of a dead horse and was fine just letting it die in the first place. ;-)
Is beating a dead horse animal cruelty?

Is it legal to shoot a dead horse?

I don't think the horse minds. :mrgreen:
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If you're beating the horse with a prohibited weapon and there is a 30.06 sign does it apply? "rlol"
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Can you shoot someone who is beating your dead horse? After all the dead horse is still your property and beating it can damage anything you choose to salvage like the hide. I'm sure the hide on a horse is with more than say $150 which someone had justifiably shot for. What about is this person is beating your dead horse at night? Surely you could shoot then. :biggrinjester:
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Javier730 wrote:Can you shoot someone who is beating your dead horse? After all the dead horse is still your property and beating it can damage anything you choose to salvage like the hide. I'm sure the hide on a horse is with more than say $150 which someone had justifiably shot for. What about is this person is beating your dead horse at night? Surely you could shoot then. :biggrinjester:
They could claim self defense. Your zombie horse attacked them. :lol:
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