SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

[Greybeard]

Quote: "Here's the Reader's Digest version. It will no longer be unlawful for CHLs to carry into school buildings; Universities will not be able to expel students who are CHLs for carrying, nor can they fire employees. They can regulate, but not prohibit, the storage of firearms in school housing. Private schools can still opt out."

I was tied up away from the computer and missed the live hearing today. It's great though to be able come here and to see that a lawyer can actually put all of the fast-moving legal gobbeldy gook into a "Reader's Digest version". And when, where and how to best light 'em up in Austin.

[hirundo82]

I don't think I've seen this addressed anywhere, but does anyone know how this would affect hospitals in partnership with universities that post 30.06? Would just the hospital part be off limits, with the classrooms being ok, or would the 30.06 no longer be valid?

I need to see how Amendment 6 is worded to be able to answer your question.

Chas.

As I read Amendment 6, it merely affirms that preexisting restrictions on where firearms may be carried apply on college campuses as well, specifically referring to the sections regarding polling places, 51% establishments, and government meetings.

(f) This section does not provide an exception to the application of or a defense to prosecution under Section 46.03(a)(2), 46.035(b)(1), or 46.035(c), Penal Code.

Also of interest may be the votes for/against the bill:
Yeas: Carona, Deuell, Eltife, Estes, Fraser, Harris, Hegar, Hinojosa, Huffman,
Jackson, Lucio, Nelson, Nichols, Patrick, Seliger, Shapiro, Uresti, Wentworth,
Whitmire, Williams.

Nays: Averitt, Davis, Duncan, Ellis, Gallegos, Shapleigh, Van de Putte, Watson,
West, Zaffirini.

Absent-excused:Ogden.

Sen. Gallegos voted for with the "Yeas" to bring the bill to the floor for consideration (giving it the 21 votes needed) but then consistently voted against tabling the amendments and ultimately against passage--I'm not sure what to make of that.

[Douva]

I don't think I've seen this addressed anywhere, but does anyone know how this would affect hospitals in partnership with universities that post 30.06? Would just the hospital part be off limits, with the classrooms being ok, or would the 30.06 no longer be valid?

I need to see how Amendment 6 is worded to be able to answer your question.

Chas.

As I read Amendment 6, it merely affirms that preexisting restrictions on where firearms may be carried apply on college campuses as well, specifically referring to the sections regarding polling places, 51% establishments, and government meetings.

(f) This section does not provide an exception to the application of or a defense to prosecution under Section 46.03(a)(2), 46.035(b)(1), or 46.035(c), Penal Code.

Also of interest may be the votes for/against the bill:
Yeas: Carona, Deuell, Eltife, Estes, Fraser, Harris, Hegar, Hinojosa, Huffman,
Jackson, Lucio, Nelson, Nichols, Patrick, Seliger, Shapiro, Uresti, Wentworth,
Whitmire, Williams.

Nays: Averitt, Davis, Duncan, Ellis, Gallegos, Shapleigh, Van de Putte, Watson,
West, Zaffirini.

Absent-excused:Ogden.

Sen. Gallegos voted for with the "Yeas" to bring the bill to the floor for consideration (giving it the 21 votes needed) but then consistently voted against tabling the amendments and ultimately against passage--I'm not sure what to make of that.

What do you notice about the A-rated Senators who didn't vote for the bill?

They all have major universities in their districts (Averitt - Baylor, Duncan - Texas Tech, Ogden - A&M, Watson - UT).

Our opposition can flap their gums all they want about the "powerful gun lobby," but in Texas, nobody wields more political power than the universities.

[artx]

What do you notice about the A-rated Senators who didn't vote for the bill?

They all have major universities in their districts (Averitt - Baylor, Duncan - Texas Tech, Ogden - A&M, Watson - UT).

Our opposition can flap their gums all they want about the "powerful gun lobby," but in Texas, nobody wields more political power than the universities.

You forgot Van Putte - UTSA (>20k students)

[txmatt]

So where was Ogden? Hope it was important...

I can't understand Senators in districts with major universities bowing to liberal academia that will never vote for them anyway (for the Republicans anyhow). And students are pretty much split on the issue of campus carry and most don't vote, so that can't be a reason.

[Charles L. Cotton]

So where was Ogden? Hope it was important...

I can't understand Senators in districts with major universities bowing to liberal academia that will never vote for them anyway (for the Republicans anyhow). And students are pretty much split on the issue of campus carry and most don't vote, so that can't be a reason.

Big donors to the schools tend to also donate to Republican candidates.

Chas.

[T3hK1w1]

2 Questions

First off, it says here that SB1164 has already passed the senate
http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/senate/new.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
EDIT: Is this correct or are they just ignorant about their own legislative process?

secondly, I can't find today's calender anywhere. Would someone care to link to it for me?


I'm getting sick of listening to "memorial resolutions"

[T3hK1w1]

HB1020 has passed the senate!
:)

not campus-carry, but college and gun-related.
I'm very glad to see this passed.

[T3hK1w1]

SB1164 is Up for consideration!!!!!

[Douva]

They're voting now.

[74novaman]

So where was Ogden? Hope it was important...

I can't understand Senators in districts with major universities bowing to liberal academia that will never vote for them anyway (for the Republicans anyhow). And students are pretty much split on the issue of campus carry and most don't vote, so that can't be a reason.

I'll be calling his office asking the same question. I think its disgusting for senators who have the most reason to stand up for the rights of those in their districts to duck their responsibilities like this. Really representing our interests up there, aren't they?

[Douva]

They're voting now.

It passed. Time to start working the House.

[Charles L. Cotton]

SB1164 passed on a 19 to 12 vote with one amendment exempting "teaching" hospitals.

Chas.

[tornado]

SB1164 passed on a 19 to 12 vote with one amendment exempting "teaching" hospitals.

Chas.

Why is that, considering that non-teaching hospitals aren't exempt?

[agbullet2k1]

SB1164 passed on a 19 to 12 vote with one amendment exempting "teaching" hospitals.

Chas.

Why is that, considering that non-teaching hospitals aren't exempt?

Hospitals are still allowed to post 30.06 though. I'm guessing that the amendment was added to avoid confusion.