The President of Kilgore College needs to be fired on the basis of lunatic irrationality, regardless of whether he was lying or just has no idea what really happened at Luby's. A mistatement of the Luby's massacre of this magnitude is just not compatible with being in any sort of leadership position.
I can't understand why every campus police isn't FOR campus carry. If I were on a campus police dept, I'd rather interrupt a vehicular burglar with a stereo in his hand than the gun a CHL had to store there so he could go inside a building.
I'm no lawyer
"Never show your hole card" "Always have something in reserve"
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Opps, I forgot to sign it and include my address/phone .... oh well, I just had to rant a while anyway .... someone there will read it
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I was sad to see the College President look foolish on the recent TV news report because he didn't know history .... (at the 1:20 mark in this TV news video ... http://www.ketknbc.com/news/one-local-c ... ampus-guns" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )
Perhaps this will help.
Dr. Suzanna Hupp, Luby's survivor; Testimony (Better Quality) to Congress, " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
An Alternative Solution?
If university policy isn't changed:
Since I can walk all over campus armed, except into a building, I propose that gun safes/lockers be provided outside each building, as well as private changing area dressing rooms, (concealed is concealed), so I can disarm without taking my gun back to my car (where police advise us not to keep any valuables because "Nothing can be done to prevent car burglaries, so don't leave valuables in your car")
Yet the police admit they can't stop burglaries of vehicles, and want you to leave your gun in your car, as it is more secure/safer than concealed in your pants.
San Antonio College
Survey shows inadequate lighting on campus http://www.theranger.org/survey-shows-i" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... -1.2411311
A walk through the center of this campus after dark to see if lighting is adequate resulted in finding more than 35 outdoor lights burned out or not on because timers needed attention.
A communication breakdown in who is supposed to be checking lights may be to blame.
Tammy Kothe-Ramsey, Student Government Association president and psychology sophomore, and campus police representative Sgt. Robert Tomlinson walked throughout the campus Monday at about 6:45 p.m. in a survey requested by The Ranger.
This came a week after the shift to daylight-saving time and a few weeks after the college suffered a string of daylight assaults, which included robberies, thefts and assaults.
While walking past Lot 10, west of the visual arts center, a student approached Tomlinson and reported a man in a hooded jacket attempting to open car doors in the parking garage. Tomlinson called an officer to take her report.
Campus Parking Lots are currently an "all-you-can-eat buffet" where thieves are more likely to find
FREE GUNS, since licensees must store them there. (Compared to other parking lots)
If thieves can foresee that, so "Reasonable Persons" should be able to.
It is therefore foreseeable that the Universities are increasing the likelihood of a loss of property, and property damage, by their policies.
I assume Universities are taking adequate precautions
Also, I'd call the "Escort Service" to be escorted to my car, and even escorted from building to building, until things change. I'd hope they have the manpower to escort everyone, and watch every car too.
I can't understand why every campus police isn't FOR campus carry. If I were on a campus police dept, I'd rather interrupt a vehicular burglar with a stereo in his hand than the gun a CHL had to store there so he could go inside a building.
(Campus Police admit to not being able to stop thefts from cars, but want you to leave your gun in it?)
http://star.txstate.edu/content/top-10-" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... san-marcos
Officers for both the San Marcos and university police departments advise students to keep their possessions safe.
“Don’t keep property in your car,” Mobley said. “There’s nothing you can do to stop stereo (theft), but don’t leave 250 CD’s (in your car), don’t leave your wallet, your purse, credit cards, cash or jewelry.”
Then why force me to leave my gun there ??????
Ok, guns aren't "illegal" on campus now, except in certain areas like inside the buildings.
Which is more likely to fall into wrong hands?
1)The one concealed, that no one knows is there in a holster inside my pants while I'm sitting in my desk,
or
2)The one in my car I had to remove from my holster inside my pants, because it's illegal inside the building while I'm in class, they'd get while stealing my GPS, radar detector, stereo and gun?
By the way, "The one in a holster inside my pants while I sit at my desk" .. I mean I'm wearing the pants, with IWB holster on a reinforced belt, and my gun is concealed, just like it is when you are sitting next to me in a movie theater, restaurant, walking down the aisle at WalMart or HEB grocery shopping, or at ACL music fest with 65,000 other people, or any other place you go where people, including myself, go.
Why would it be more likely someone would reach in my pants in a classroom, than elsewhere?
If you have an uncontrollable desire to reach into my pants, please ask permission first.
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Now Houston has more colleges than San Marcos http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/edi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 39700.html
Concealed handgun license holders carry handguns for personal protection, not so they can act like amateur one-man SWAT teams. And most police officers know this. The vice president of the Houston Police Officers Union, the largest police union in Texas, recently dismissed concerns about license holders adding to the confusion of an active shooter situation and announced that his organization supports campus carry.
Ever wonder why University parking lots are more likely to suffer from car break-ins than say a Wal-Mart?
At Walmart, movies, restaurants, even at ACL music fest, licensees can carry their guns in with them, but Colleges make their Parking lots a FREE BUFFET for gun thieves, since everyone must leave the gun in the car.
Car burglars know it is more likely to find a gun in a car at a college, than in a parking lot elsewhere, because the law, and University policies say so.
Currently, individual universities can permit concealed carry in classrooms, but no Texas campus does, so far, only Kindergarten - 12th grade schools allow Licensed Concealed Handguns (at Harold ISD) Therefore, University parking lots attract vehicle burglaries with the "free guns" policy.
Anyone wanting to learn the facts, statistics and arguments supporting the legalization of licensed concealed carry (of handguns) on Texas college campuses should start with these two documents:
If, after reviewing those two documents, you still have questions about the issue, you should visit http://www.TexasStudentsCarry.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
I'm no lawyer
"Never show your hole card" "Always have something in reserve"
The President of Kilgore College needs to be fired on the basis of lunatic irrationality, regardless of whether he was lying or just has no idea what really happened at Luby's. A mistatement of the Luby's massacre of this magnitude is just not compatible with being in any sort of leadership position.
You can call it a misstatement and attribute it to ignorance if you want to be gracious, but based on other things he has reportedly said, and logic, I think the man is a practiced liar with an inflated sense of self-importance, who thinks he can say whatever he wants and get away with it. The only other reasonable explanation is that he didn't bother to determine whether or not his account is true, which is completely irresponsible for a supposed "academic," and amounts to a lie. It's just a clever way of lying so that if you get caught you can claim later that you were "misinformed" --though it seems to me a misinformed academic is less than worthless.
"Journalism, n. A job for people who flunked out of STEM courses, enjoy making up stories, and have no detectable integrity or morals."
The President of Kilgore College needs to be fired on the basis of lunatic irrationality, regardless of whether he was lying or just has no idea what really happened at Luby's. A mistatement of the Luby's massacre of this magnitude is just not compatible with being in any sort of leadership position.
That's like blaming the Valentine's Day Massacre on the 21st Amendment.
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It's a defeating feeling to be reminded there are these petty dictators who want nothing but to control their (money-making) empire, and make all other educational personnel look foolish by association. I've spent plenty of time in academia, and this person is a tremendously poor example of an educator. Fortunately this person is not a boss of mine, and I would would never send a child to school there. (Maybe he's been encouraged by Ben Bernanke, who is also an academic who gets history horribly wrong.)[/rant]
I have more and more friends at my workplaces who are obtaining CHL's -- even without my suggesting it! We all hope for the day we'll be able to carry in the workplace....
And thank you for giving me the final reason for signing up with SCCC -- just now done.
Life is for learning.
IANAL, thank gosh!
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01/15/2010: Plastic in hand!
It seems that Mr. Holda (I refuse to call an Ed D doctor, even Bill Cosby, whom I respect) has changed his email address from what is listed on the college website. I would surmise he was getting too many unkind emails for such an gentle soul (idiot) to handle.
It seems that we may have over reacted to Mr. Holda's statements. It has been reported on this site that both he and his wife are taking a class preparatory to possibly becoming CHL holders.
If this is reported correctly, Mr. Holda has my respect, and my apology for the word in parentheses above, for letting go of beliefs based on fallacies. Few people can do so in such a short time frame.
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I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on.
I don't do those things to other people and I require the same of them.
Don’t pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he’ll just kill you.
"This did not sit well with Dr. Holda, who chastised the move as “unfortunate and ill-advised” and criticized Simpson for filing the bill without first consulting him. Holda proclaimed, “What we want is for representatives to file legislation based on a good body of information.”"
Of all the arrogant bass thugs....who is this Dr. Holda? Is the the guru of all the academia nuts? Do all of the other academia nuts all over the US call him up every time they want to make a statement about something? Does he have the final say so? Why should the representative consult someone who would say no to the bill? Is that "the good body of information"? And who is this we he's talking about? Does he have a mouse in his pocket? He could have pulled numbers out of his butt and said that was the good body of information. Sheesh.
If a college professor says something is "ill advised", it's the same as a congressman saying it. It's very advisable, and full of common sense.
These academics drive me insane.
NRA EPL pending life member
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"- Patrick Henry
That's like blaming the Valentine's Day Massacre on the 21st Amendment. 
