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NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:48 pm
by apostate
https://www.nj.com/politics/2019/03/gun ... utType=amp
State Attorney General Gurbir Grewal told reporters at a press conference on Friday that such “ghost gun” dealers exploit a “loophole” in state and federal firearms laws by selling “80 percent builds” — nearly complete firearms advertised with instructions on how to complete them.
The attorney general said some of the 15 other gun dealers who no longer ship to New Jersey advise their customers to change their delivery address, arguing gun dealers were not doing enough to make sure they weren’t running afoul of state law. Grewal declined to say whether his office was investigating other sellers.
The attorney general called on Congress to pass a federal ban on such weapon kits.
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:07 am
by OneGun
Can we encourage a NJEXIT??
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:57 am
by crazy2medic
I have a question on this! If you mail a 30rd mag to a State that says they are illegal but it's legal in your State and legal to mail so Fed's aren't involved, the only person committing a "crime" is the one taking possession of it, Right??? Same as this story how can NJ sue California for something that is only illegal in NJ?
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:47 am
by JustSomeOldGuy
I'm guessing that they're asserting the shipper KNEW it was illegal in NJ, and that shipping anyway constituted conspiracy?
Or not....from the article
The lawsuit accuses the company of violating New Jersey’s Consumer Fraud Act by failing to inform customers many of their products are illegal in the Garden State.
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:55 am
by crazy2medic
So your required to KNOW the laws of the State your shipping to? That's a big burden to bear!
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:10 am
by Tex1961
crazy2medic wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:55 am
So your required to KNOW the laws of the State your shipping to? That's a big burden to bear!
While I whole heartily agree with you.... The ol' "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse" thing may be argued by the courts....
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:14 am
by Aloha Snackbar
How can I commit a crime in New Jersey if I never set foot in New Jersey? How can New Jersey claim jurisdiction over a California company that follows (a) California law and (b) Federal laws regarding interstate commerce?
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:17 pm
by crazy2medic
Aloha Snackbar wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:14 am
How can I commit a crime in New Jersey if I never set foot in New Jersey? How can New Jersey claim jurisdiction over a California company that follows (a) California law and (b) Federal laws regarding interstate commerce?
This is fundamentally my question!
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:50 pm
by bblhd672
Two socialist states going at each other?
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:43 pm
by pushpullpete
prearranged outcome maybe ?
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:21 pm
by twomillenium
pushpullpete wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:43 pm
prearranged outcome maybe ?
That's what I was thinking.
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:31 pm
by TreyHouston
crazy2medic wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:55 am
So your required to KNOW the laws of the State your shipping to? That's a big burden to bear!
There are many things illegal in many states. Naughty naughty toys and “naughty how to” books come to mind...
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:32 pm
by crazy2medic
It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World!
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:58 am
by Deltaboy
Crazy we need to give NEW JERSEY and New York state to Canada!
Re: NJ sues CA company over interstate commerce
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:17 pm
by crazy2medic
Deltaboy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:58 am
Crazy we need to give NEW JERSEY and New York state to Canada!
Sell them at bargain basement prices so they think they're getting a good deal... No Returns, No Refunds!