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OCed in Kentucky
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:38 pm
by jimlongley
My wife and I stopped in Cadiz KY to view a Quilt Exhibition. While we were walking through the show I saw two different people carrying openly, so I asked one of them, and took him at his word, that OC is legal in KY, so I did. Not one person even looked twice or commented.
The City of Cadiz was having a "hamfest" (for you hams, this one involved just ham, not ham radio) and we wandered up and down the street, bought a funnel cake and had a good time, and not one word. Saw several other people carrying.
I will admit to being a little worried on the trip back as we drove through IL for about 7 miles due to a detour, and no way to stop and lock my gun unloaded in the trunk.
Re: OCed in Kentucky
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:07 pm
by RedRaiderCHL
Good thing nothing was said, just in case you might have been in the wrong... I never take a persons word for it.. Main reason being is most people don't even know the law in their own state. Example being, open carry in Missouri. I was at THE Walmart in this small town in Missouri. At the time Open Carry had been legal for about a year for those that held a valid CHL. I had a Missouri resident who I later found out that was born and raised in MO tell me, "Hey man, your gun is showing, that ain't legal here."
I then kindly told him that is was and as of when and even cited the state statute number that said so. After a brief conversation with him it appeared to be obvious that he was just one more of the anti-gun nuts who didn't know the law and had to make his beliefs know by approaching every Open Carrier with the hope of being able to convince them that it was not legal to OC.
I always look up the state statutes before traveling and even use "Legal Heat" app on iphone to double check the laws in that state. Just a good habit to get into when traveling.
That's pretty awesome you didn't even get a second look though.. wish the great state of Texas was like that... at least it should be.
Re: OCed in Kentucky
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:58 pm
by Keith B
jimlongley wrote:
I will admit to being a little worried on the trip back as we drove through IL for about 7 miles due to a detour, and no way to stop and lock my gun unloaded in the trunk.
Actually, now that Illinois has a concealed license they will allow a non-resident with a concealed carry license from another state to carry concealed in their vehicle.
430 ILCS 66/40
(e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her
vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:
(1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law;
(2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence, as
evidenced by the possession of a concealed carry license or permit issued by his or her state of
residence, if applicable; and
(3) is not in possession of a license under this Act. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle
unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in
accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act. (Source: P.A. 98-63, eff. 7-9-13.)
Re: OCed in Kentucky
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:11 pm
by jimlongley
RedRaiderCHL wrote:Good thing nothing was said, just in case you might have been in the wrong... I never take a persons word for it..
. . .
I always look up the state statutes before traveling and even use "Legal Heat" app on iphone to double check the laws in that state. Just a good habit to get into when traveling.
That's pretty awesome you didn't even get a second look though.. wish the great state of Texas was like that... at least it should be.
Actually, I had looked up all of the Concealed statutes before we left and was pretty sure I was on firm foundations concealed, I just never looked at OC as I didn't intend to. I do admit to being a little foolish in going ahead just on a stranger's word.
Keith B wrote:jimlongley wrote:
I will admit to being a little worried on the trip back as we drove through IL for about 7 miles due to a detour, and no way to stop and lock my gun unloaded in the trunk.
Actually, now that Illinois has a concealed license they will allow a non-resident with a concealed carry license from another state to carry concealed in their vehicle.
430 ILCS 66/40
(e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her
vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:
(1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law;
(2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence, as
evidenced by the possession of a concealed carry license or permit issued by his or her state of
residence, if applicable; and
(3) is not in possession of a license under this Act. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle
unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in
accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act. (Source: P.A. 98-63, eff. 7-9-13.)
Thanks Keith, I missed that part when I was looking things up. I expected to be in IL just long enough to get from KY to MO, about a mile, but the bridge was closed.
Re: OCed in Kentucky
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:38 pm
by Keith B
jimlongley wrote:
Thanks Keith, I missed that part when I was looking things up. I expected to be in IL just long enough to get from KY to MO, about a mile, but the bridge was closed.
It is normally less than a mile in IL when the 60 bridge between IL and MO is open. However, that detour you had to take puts you right through Cairo, IL and that is one of the areas you NEED to have your gun on you!!
Re: OCed in Kentucky
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:49 am
by jimlongley
Keith B wrote:jimlongley wrote:
Thanks Keith, I missed that part when I was looking things up. I expected to be in IL just long enough to get from KY to MO, about a mile, but the bridge was closed.
It is normally less than a mile in IL when the 60 bridge between IL and MO is open. However, that detour you had to take puts you right through Cairo, IL and that is one of the areas you NEED to have your gun on you!!
Yeah, I noticed that. If I had known about the detour I would have been willing to go farther south and cross over on 155 avoiding IL entirely.
Re: OCed in Kentucky
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:19 pm
by Keith B
Thread drift, but if you had of been able to cross the US 60 bridge from IL to MO, you end up running the levee at Bird's Point. That is where they blew out the levee in 2011 to route the floodwaters into the New Madrid flood-way and protect Cairo from flooding. If they had let it flood it would have done millions of $$ in improvements!
The other note is, that area south of the levee near Bird's Point all the way to Wyatt Junction at one time all belonged to my Grandfather. He lost most of the land in 1925 when they had the first runs on the banks at the start of the Great Depression. The bank he and one other owned was one of the first to have a run made on it.
There is still a 3 acre cemetery just to the east of Wyatt where many of my family on my Mother's side are buried. It sits on what was the first concrete highway west of the Mississippi.
Re: OCed in Kentucky
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 5:31 pm
by jimlongley
Keith B wrote:Thread drift, but if you had of been able to cross the US 60 bridge from IL to MO, you end up running the levee at Bird's Point. That is where they blew out the levee in 2011 to route the floodwaters into the New Madrid flood-way and protect Cairo from flooding. If they had let it flood it would have done millions of $$ in improvements!
The other note is, that area south of the levee near Bird's Point all the way to Wyatt Junction at one time all belonged to my Grandfather. He lost most of the land in 1925 when they had the first runs on the banks at the start of the Great Depression. The bank he and one other owned was one of the first to have a run made on it.
There is still a 3 acre cemetery just to the east of Wyatt where many of my family on my Mother's side are buried. It sits on what was the first concrete highway west of the Mississippi.
I would have loved to have known that as we passed through. We have been taking a leisurely drive back from Nashville stopping where the mood fit, and a visit to your family cemetery would have been fun.
Re: OCed in Kentucky
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:24 pm
by maintenanceguy
Being from NJ, I can't get a carry permit here. I do have a couple of non-resident permits from other states. Those parmits used to let me carry in Pennsylvania. The PA AG changed that recently. I spend a lot of time in Pennsylvania and since I no longer have a permit that's valid there, I have no choice but to open carry. I've never been asked, never gotten a strange look, never had a single issue.
Re: OCed in Kentucky
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:55 pm
by oohrah
Keith B wrote:jimlongley wrote:
I will admit to being a little worried on the trip back as we drove through IL for about 7 miles due to a detour, and no way to stop and lock my gun unloaded in the trunk.
Actually, now that Illinois has a concealed license they will allow a non-resident with a concealed carry license from another state to carry concealed in their vehicle.
430 ILCS 66/40
(e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her
vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:
(1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law;
(2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence, as
evidenced by the possession of a concealed carry license or permit issued by his or her state of
residence, if applicable; and
(3) is not in possession of a license under this Act. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle
unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in
accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act. (Source: P.A. 98-63, eff. 7-9-13.)
Yep, my daughter lives in IL. I carried in my vehicle right through downtown Chicago.
Re: OCed in Kentucky
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:35 am
by RoyGBiv
Closing the loop on the OP...
http://handgunlaw.us/states/kentucky.pdf
Kentucky honors all other states Permit/Licenses.
Open Carry is legal in Kentucky. Not all places listed in the “Places Off Limits” apply to those who are Open Carrying. It is up to you to know what laws apply to you when Open Carrying.
Re: OCed in Kentucky
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:46 am
by anygunanywhere
I have OCed in Kentucky and West Virginia on multiple occasions. No one ever said anything or appeared to notice.