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We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:23 am
by MeMelYup
This is where you can't carry in Illinois.
Public Act 098-0063

Section 65. Prohibited areas.
(a) A licensee under this Act shall not knowingly carry a firearm on or into:
Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public or private elementary or secondary school.
(2) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of a pre-school or
child care facility, including any room or portion of a building under the control of a
pre-school or child care facility. Nothing in this paragraph shall prevent the operator
of a child care facility in a family home from owning or possessing a firearm in the
home or license under this Act, if no child under child care at the home is present in
the home or the firearm in the home is stored in a locked container when a child
under child care at the home is present in the home.
(3) Any building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of an officer of
the executive or legislative branch of government, provided that nothing in this
paragraph shall prohibit a licensee from carrying a concealed firearm onto the real
property, bikeway, or trail in a park regulated by the Department of Natural
Resources or any other designated public hunting area or building where firearm
possession is permitted as established by the Department of Natural Resources
under Section 1.8 of the Wildlife Code.
(4) Any building designated for matters before a circuit court, appellate court, or the
Supreme Court, or any building or portion of a building under the control of the
Supreme Court.
(5) Any building or portion of a building under the control of a unit of local government.
(6) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of an adult or juvenile
detention or correctional institution, prison, or jail.
(7) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public or private
hospital or hospital affiliate, mental health facility, or nursing home.
(8) Any bus, train, or form of transportation paid for in whole or in part with public funds,
and any building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public
transportation facility paid for in whole or in part with public funds.
(9) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of an establishment
that serves alcohol on its premises, if more than 50% of the establishment's gross
receipts within the prior 3 months is from the sale of alcohol. The owner of an
establishment who knowingly fails to prohibit concealed firearms on its premises as
provided in this paragraph or who knowingly makes a false statement or record to
avoid the prohibition on concealed firearms under this paragraph is subject to the
penalty under subsection (c-5) of Section 10-1 of the Liquor Control Act of 1934.
(10) Any public gathering or special event conducted on property open to the public that
requires the issuance of a permit from the unit of local government, provided this
prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through a public gathering in
order to access his or her residence, place of business, or vehicle.
(11) Any building or real property that has been issued a Special Event Retailer's license
as defined in Section 1-3.17.1 of the Liquor Control Act during the time designated
for the sale of alcohol by the Special Event Retailer's license, or a Special use permit
license as defined in subsection (q) of Section 5-1 of the Liquor Control Act during
the time designated for the sale of alcohol by the Special use permit license.
(12) Any public playground.
(13) Any public park, athletic area, or athletic facility under the control of a municipality
or park district, provided nothing in this Section shall prohibit a licensee from carrying
a concealed firearm while on a trail or bikeway if only a portion of the trail or bikeway
includes a public park.
(14) Any real property under the control of the Cook County Forest Preserve District.
(15) Any building, classroom, laboratory, medical clinic, hospital, artistic venue, athletic
venue, entertainment venue, officially recognized university-related organization
property, whether owned or leased, and any real property, including parking areas,
sidewalks, and common areas under the control of a public or private community
college, college, or university.
(16) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of a gaming facility
licensed under the Riverboat Gambling Act or the Illinois Horse Racing Act of 1975,
including an inter-track wagering location licensee.
(17) Any stadium, arena, or the real property or parking area under the control of a
stadium, arena, or any collegiate or professional sporting event.
(18) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of a public library.
(19) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of an airport.
(20) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of an amusement
park.
(21) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of a zoo or museum.
(22) Any street, driveway, parking area, property, building, or facility, owned, leased,
controlled, or used by a nuclear energy, storage, weapons, or development site or
facility regulated by the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The licensee shall
not under any circumstance store a firearm or ammunition in his or her vehicle or in a
compartment or container within a vehicle located anywhere in or on the street,
driveway, parking area, property, building, or facility described in this paragraph.
(23) Any area where firearms are prohibited under federal law.

(a-5) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a public or private community college, college, or university from:
prohibiting persons from carrying a firearm within a vehicle owned, leased, or controlled by the college or university;
(2) developing resolutions, regulations, or policies regarding student, employee, or
visitor misconduct and discipline, including suspension and expulsion;
(3) developing resolutions, regulations, or policies regarding the storage or maintenance
of firearms, which must include designated areas where persons can park vehicles
that carry firearms; and
(4) permitting the carrying or use of firearms for the purpose of instruction and
curriculum of officially recognized programs, including but not limited to military
science and law enforcement training programs, or in any designated area used for
hunting purposes or target shooting.

(a-10) The owner of private real property of any type may prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms on the property under his or her control. The owner must post a sign in accordance with subsection (d) of this Section indicating that firearms are prohibited on the property, unless the property is a private residence.

(b) Notwithstanding subsections (a), (a-5), and (a-10) of this Section except under paragraph (22) or (23) of subsection (a), any licensee prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm into the parking area of a prohibited location specified in subsection (a), (a-5), or (a-10) of this Section shall be permitted to carry a concealed firearm on or about his or her person within a vehicle into the parking area and may store a firearm or ammunition concealed in a case within a locked vehicle or locked container out of plain view within the vehicle in the parking area. A licensee may carry a concealed firearm in the immediate area surrounding his or her vehicle within a prohibited parking lot area only for the limited purpose of storing or retrieving a firearm within the vehicle's trunk, provided the licensee ensures the concealed firearm is unloaded prior to exiting the vehicle. For purposes of this subsection, "case" includes a glove compartment or console that completely encloses the concealed firearm or ammunition, the trunk of the vehicle, or a firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container.

(c) A licensee shall not be in violation of this Section while he or she is traveling along a public right of way that touches or crosses any of the premises under subsection (a), (a-5), or (a-10) of this Section if the concealed firearm is carried on his or her person in accordance with the provisions of this Act or is being transported in a vehicle by the licensee in accordance with all other applicable provisions of law.

(d) Signs stating that the carrying of firearms is prohibited shall be clearly and conspicuously posted at the entrance of a building, premises, or real property specified in this Section as a prohibited area, unless the building or premises is a private residence. Signs shall be of a uniform design as established by the Department and shall be 4 inches by 6 inches in size. The Department shall adopt rules for standardized signs to be used under this subsection.

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:43 am
by Beiruty
Why bother carrying with such restrictive laws. Do drug gangs care about such laws? It was bit overwhelming when I watched on Discovery channel a documentary about the drug gangs in Chicago. Heroin is the money making gold mine and black drug gangs are feasting on such market. What is more disturbing that street drug gangs are organized like an Army! So, how CPD would able counter that?!!! :mad5

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:52 am
by RPBrown
So it seems that the only place you can carry besides your home is on a public street and only then if there is not a parade, demonstration, street festival or some other activity that people gather for.
Thanks but no thanks. I will stay in Texas

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:55 am
by SewTexas
did I miss Church??? really? they didn't limit church? I read it twice.

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:35 am
by Middle Age Russ
In Texas, we have Concealed Handgun LICENSES (taxes) with some degree of Liberty both implied and in practice. I don't know what they call it in Illinois, but Permit seems more appropriate than License in that they permit you to carry under very strict circumstances.

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:58 am
by E.Marquez
MeMelYup wrote:This is where you can't carry in Illinois.
Public Act 098-0063

Section 65. Prohibited areas.
(a) A licensee under this Act shall not knowingly carry a firearm on or into:
Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public or private elementary or secondary school.
(2) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of a pre-school or
child care facility, including any room or portion of a building under the control of a
pre-school or child care facility. Nothing in this paragraph shall prevent the operator
of a child care facility in a family home from owning or possessing a firearm in the
home or license under this Act, if no child under child care at the home is present in
the home or the firearm in the home is stored in a locked container when a child
under child care at the home is present in the home.
(3) Any building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of an officer of
the executive or legislative branch of government, provided that nothing in this
paragraph shall prohibit a licensee from carrying a concealed firearm onto the real
property, bikeway, or trail in a park regulated by the Department of Natural
Resources or any other designated public hunting area or building where firearm
possession is permitted as established by the Department of Natural Resources
under Section 1.8 of the Wildlife Code.
(4) Any building designated for matters before a circuit court, appellate court, or the
Supreme Court, or any building or portion of a building under the control of the
Supreme Court.
(5) Any building or portion of a building under the control of a unit of local government.
(6) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of an adult or juvenile
detention or correctional institution, prison, or jail.
(7) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public or private
hospital or hospital affiliate, mental health facility, or nursing home.
(8) Any bus, train, or form of transportation paid for in whole or in part with public funds,
and any building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public
transportation facility paid for in whole or in part with public funds.
(9) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of an establishment
that serves alcohol on its premises, if more than 50% of the establishment's gross
receipts within the prior 3 months is from the sale of alcohol. The owner of an
establishment who knowingly fails to prohibit concealed firearms on its premises as
provided in this paragraph or who knowingly makes a false statement or record to
avoid the prohibition on concealed firearms under this paragraph is subject to the
penalty under subsection (c-5) of Section 10-1 of the Liquor Control Act of 1934.
(10) Any public gathering or special event conducted on property open to the public that
requires the issuance of a permit from the unit of local government, provided this
prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through a public gathering in
order to access his or her residence, place of business, or vehicle.
(11) Any building or real property that has been issued a Special Event Retailer's license
as defined in Section 1-3.17.1 of the Liquor Control Act during the time designated
for the sale of alcohol by the Special Event Retailer's license, or a Special use permit
license as defined in subsection (q) of Section 5-1 of the Liquor Control Act during
the time designated for the sale of alcohol by the Special use permit license.
(12) Any public playground.
(13) Any public park, athletic area, or athletic facility under the control of a municipality
or park district, provided nothing in this Section shall prohibit a licensee from carrying
a concealed firearm while on a trail or bikeway if only a portion of the trail or bikeway
includes a public park.
(14) Any real property under the control of the Cook County Forest Preserve District.
(15) Any building, classroom, laboratory, medical clinic, hospital, artistic venue, athletic
venue, entertainment venue, officially recognized university-related organization
property, whether owned or leased, and any real property, including parking areas,
sidewalks, and common areas under the control of a public or private community
college, college, or university.
(16) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of a gaming facility
licensed under the Riverboat Gambling Act or the Illinois Horse Racing Act of 1975,
including an inter-track wagering location licensee.
(17) Any stadium, arena, or the real property or parking area under the control of a
stadium, arena, or any collegiate or professional sporting event.
(18) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of a public library.
(19) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of an airport.
(20) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of an amusement
park.
(21) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of a zoo or museum.
(22) Any street, driveway, parking area, property, building, or facility, owned, leased,
controlled, or used by a nuclear energy, storage, weapons, or development site or
facility regulated by the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The licensee shall
not under any circumstance store a firearm or ammunition in his or her vehicle or in a
compartment or container within a vehicle located anywhere in or on the street,
driveway, parking area, property, building, or facility described in this paragraph.
(23) Any area where firearms are prohibited under federal law.

(a-5) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a public or private community college, college, or university from:
prohibiting persons from carrying a firearm within a vehicle owned, leased, or controlled by the college or university;
(2) developing resolutions, regulations, or policies regarding student, employee, or
visitor misconduct and discipline, including suspension and expulsion;
(3) developing resolutions, regulations, or policies regarding the storage or maintenance
of firearms, which must include designated areas where persons can park vehicles
that carry firearms; and
(4) permitting the carrying or use of firearms for the purpose of instruction and
curriculum of officially recognized programs, including but not limited to military
science and law enforcement training programs, or in any designated area used for
hunting purposes or target shooting.

(a-10) The owner of private real property of any type may prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms on the property under his or her control. The owner must post a sign in accordance with subsection (d) of this Section indicating that firearms are prohibited on the property, unless the property is a private residence.

(b) Notwithstanding subsections (a), (a-5), and (a-10) of this Section except under paragraph (22) or (23) of subsection (a), any licensee prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm into the parking area of a prohibited location specified in subsection (a), (a-5), or (a-10) of this Section shall be permitted to carry a concealed firearm on or about his or her person within a vehicle into the parking area and may store a firearm or ammunition concealed in a case within a locked vehicle or locked container out of plain view within the vehicle in the parking area. A licensee may carry a concealed firearm in the immediate area surrounding his or her vehicle within a prohibited parking lot area only for the limited purpose of storing or retrieving a firearm within the vehicle's trunk, provided the licensee ensures the concealed firearm is unloaded prior to exiting the vehicle. For purposes of this subsection, "case" includes a glove compartment or console that completely encloses the concealed firearm or ammunition, the trunk of the vehicle, or a firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container.

(c) A licensee shall not be in violation of this Section while he or she is traveling along a public right of way that touches or crosses any of the premises under subsection (a), (a-5), or (a-10) of this Section if the concealed firearm is carried on his or her person in accordance with the provisions of this Act or is being transported in a vehicle by the licensee in accordance with all other applicable provisions of law.

(d) Signs stating that the carrying of firearms is prohibited shall be clearly and conspicuously posted at the entrance of a building, premises, or real property specified in this Section as a prohibited area, unless the building or premises is a private residence. Signs shall be of a uniform design as established by the Department and shall be 4 inches by 6 inches in size. The Department shall adopt rules for standardized signs to be used under this subsection.
Id love to see this a a graphic on a map....in three layers to illustrate where Us citizens and residents of that state with a concealed handgun license A: CAN Carry, B: Can Not Carry; C:Where murders, rapiest, drug dealers, gangbangers and thieves DO CARRY.

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:02 pm
by Texheim
Wow, what a load of manure...

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:24 pm
by TexasCajun
Give them a break. They're 20 years behind the times. I would imagine they're following the course laid out about 45 times. That being get a chl program up & running. Then after a time where the streets aren't running with blood, start to slowly chip away at the restrictions. If they are diligent and persistent, they'll end up with a pretty good situation.

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:19 pm
by Texsquatch
I am so glad I moved back to Texas from Illinois last fall. I loved Illinois, but there's no place like home. I never even took my guns with me, I left them wiht my brother in Dallas. No FOID for me, brother.

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:28 pm
by sparkyfender
Yep, I would cut them some slack.

The limits and restrictions severely curtail the right to carry, but it is much better than what they had, which was nothing.

The rest of the state finally bucked corrupt Chicago, and Chicago had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the world of firearm rights. I do believe things will get better for Illinois, and I hope the momentum keeps going. It will really suck if the powers that be backslide.

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:01 pm
by C-dub
TexasCajun wrote:Give them a break. They're 20 years behind the times. I would imagine they're following the course laid out about 45 times. That being get a chl program up & running. Then after a time where the streets aren't running with blood, start to slowly chip away at the restrictions. If they are diligent and persistent, they'll end up with a pretty good situation.
They're more like several millennium behind the times.

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:29 pm
by Oldgringo
sparkyfender wrote:Yep, I would cut them some slack.

The limits and restrictions severely curtail the right to carry, but it is much better than what they had, which was nothing.

The rest of the state finally bucked corrupt Chicago, and Chicago had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the world of firearm rights. I do believe things will get better for Illinois, and I hope the momentum keeps going. It will really suck if the powers that be backslide.
In Illinois, the 'powers that be' wrote these laws and, the 'powers that be' in Illinois are in Chicago.

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:28 pm
by scottmeador
Anyone care to wager if Illinois will have OC before Texas? :)

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:54 pm
by TexasCajun
Oldgringo wrote:
sparkyfender wrote:Yep, I would cut them some slack.

The limits and restrictions severely curtail the right to carry, but it is much better than what they had, which was nothing.

The rest of the state finally bucked corrupt Chicago, and Chicago had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the world of firearm rights. I do believe things will get better for Illinois, and I hope the momentum keeps going. It will really suck if the powers that be backslide.
In Illinois, the 'powers that be' wrote these laws and, the 'powers that be' in Illinois are in Chicago.
As I read it, this ended up being Chicago vs the rest of IL. Normally the Chicago pols can get some of the others to side with them, but not so in this case. Hope the non-Chicago legislators can keep their backbone.

Re: We are bad places you can't Cary in Texas.

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:43 am
by oohrah
It was a federal judge who ordered the state to enact concealed carry, and he gave them a deadline. If they failed to meet the deadline, IL would have become a 2A constitutional carry state, and of course they didn't want that, so Chicago had to compromise. But boy, you really have to jump through hoops to get a license.

I think the FOID is unconstitutional.