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Another Victim of NY Port Authority Police
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:42 pm
by JJVP
A Minnesota mom six months pregnant getting ready to head home from a trip to New York with her 6-year-old daughter was arrested last week for an unloaded handgun she had in the luggage she was attempting to check.
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Re: Another Victim of NY Port Authority Police
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:52 pm
by Jumping Frog
What happened to her and her family was wrong. Period.
Re: Another Victim of NY Port Authority Police
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:05 pm
by E.Marquez
If only I could find a competent attorney to take a case pro bono, I would gladly transit the state of NY, in full compliance of federal law....and allow myself to be subjected to the disgrace NY LEO's and district attorneys, state politicians force upon US citizens.
Re: Another Victim of NY Port Authority Police
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:47 pm
by Justinbhutto
ugh. I dislike New York.
Re: Another Victim of NY Port Authority Police
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:45 pm
by stevie_d_64
Yep, you can follow ALL the laws and rules for transporting a firearm, however, if you do not know to study the laws of the particular state you are "visiting", especially NY, NJ and all the other states that do not respect your right to keep and bear arms...You WILL take a ride...
How many times have we discussed the transportation, carrying, packing of firearms for airline travel and the destinations you will be going to???
I feel sorry for the woman and her situation, I really do...But you have to realize NY is going to lower the boom on her for daring to bring a gun to their state...
This should be a clear lesson for everyone...Just stay out of those states that do not respect your unalienable right to keep and bear arms per the Second Amendment...I do not care what the situation is, or the reason...Just say no...
But then again, states do retain the right to regulate this activity as they see fit...It's their own funeral as far as I am concerned...
If she was smart enough to know how to declare a firearm for travel per the rules of the airline and TSA and all that, and she didn't check the possession laws for the particular state she was visiting, welllll, then this is what happens...
I know its wrong to feel so crase about her plight, and the state of NY should review this situation with the understanding that there was no intent to commit any crime with the firearm...But their law is the law...
Re: Another Victim of NY Port Authority Police
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:05 pm
by jimlongley
The thing I object to the most is the airline acting in the role of law enforcement.
Re: Another Victim of NY Port Authority Police
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:38 pm
by Jumping Frog
jimlongley wrote:The thing I object to the most is the airline acting in the role of law enforcement.
Under NY law, I would not be surprised if the airline representative who accepted possession of a weapon without calling the police also became vulnerable to criminal charges. After all, they are now in illegal possession of an unlicensed firearm.
Notifying law enforcement is probably the only safe alternative they have.
Re: Another Victim of NY Port Authority Police
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:59 pm
by C-dub
stevie_d_64 wrote:I know its wrong to feel so crase about her plight, and the state of NY should review this situation with the understanding that there was no intent to commit any crime with the firearm...But their law is the law...
The problem is that this is not the first time this type of thing has been an issue and they still don't care. It's like a venus fly trap. They know it's a trap and they'll just keep resetting it as many times as they can until someone wins a judgment against them in court. And then they will fight that as long as they can.
Re: Another Victim of NY Port Authority Police
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:02 pm
by texanjoker
I was in a recent LEO class. They brought up traveling with a firearm and suggested we call each airport we are checking baggage into to learn their specific rules... Seems to me it should be the same at each airport, but that would make sense.
Re: Another Victim of NY Port Authority Police
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:12 pm
by C-dub
texanjoker wrote:I was in a recent LEO class. They brought up traveling with a firearm and suggested we call each airport we are checking baggage into to learn their specific rules... Seems to me it should be the same at each airport, but that would make sense.
The way those folks have handled this situation up there, I wouldn't put it past them to sucker them in so they could call the police on them. Almost like they get some kind of kick back on the number of arrests or something.
Re: Another Victim of NY Port Authority Police
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:19 pm
by jimlongley
Jumping Frog wrote:jimlongley wrote:The thing I object to the most is the airline acting in the role of law enforcement.
Under NY law, I would not be surprised if the airline representative who accepted possession of a weapon without calling the police also became vulnerable to criminal charges. After all, they are now in illegal possession of an unlicensed firearm.
Notifying law enforcement is probably the only safe alternative they have.
Yes, but I seriously wonder if this couldn't be a violation of Fifth Amendment rights. The only reason they knew about the gun is that she self-identified to the airline and the airline snitched.